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Post by northernlad on May 3, 2019 23:32:48 GMT
Forgive me if this has already been discussed...but the show has been so good lately and this has been one of my main thoughts. What happens now for Jaime? Does he remain on the side of the North and fight with them? Or does he jump sides again and fight on the side of Cersei...his one true love (bleh!). Let's face it...he does love the woman. Tyrion pointed that out to him when he said "You knew what she was but you still loved her anyway."
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May 3, 2019 23:48:24 GMT
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Post by Marv on May 3, 2019 23:48:24 GMT
He’ll most likely get in between and become a casualty, imo.
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Post by northernlad on May 3, 2019 23:51:35 GMT
He’ll most likely get in between and become a casualty, imo. I can see that happening. But if he goes back and fights for her...he deserves to die as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 4, 2019 0:02:01 GMT
I’m not entirely sure he can come back.
He basically committed treason and while I’m not sure Bron was actually hired by Cersei, it’s also no surprise that Cersei would have written him off.
Jaime lives her more than she does him.
Of course I still believe they will follow book prophecy and one of the Lannister’s will kill her and it will be a result of one of them being killed because of her.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 4, 2019 1:00:21 GMT
Of course I still believe they will follow book prophecy Every dumb loser in the world wants prophecies to come true. It makes them feel their fate is not in their incompetent, clumsy hands.
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Post by northernlad on May 4, 2019 1:26:33 GMT
I’m not entirely sure he can come back. He basically committed treason and while I’m not sure Bron was actually hired by Cersei, it’s also no surprise that Cersei would have written him off. Jaime lives her more than she does him. Of course I still believe they will follow book prophecy and one of the Lannister’s will kill her and it will be a result of one of them being killed because of her. What is stopping me from believing that she won't have him killed for treason is that she didn't stop him from leaving. She could have had the Mountain kill him right there but she didn't. Plus the fact, she's pregnant...so I think she has a weakness for him too. Whatever the case it should be interesting to see this play out. I do believe more and more that she will die by the hands of Tyrion or Jaime.
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Post by Marendil on May 4, 2019 1:50:35 GMT
I’m not entirely sure he can come back. He basically committed treason and while I’m not sure Bron was actually hired by Cersei, it’s also no surprise that Cersei would have written him off. Jaime lives her more than she does him. Of course I still believe they will follow book prophecy and one of the Lannister’s will kill her and it will be a result of one of them being killed because of her. What is stopping me from believing that she won't have him killed for treason is that she didn't stop him from leaving. She could have had the Mountain kill him right there but she didn't. Plus the fact, she's pregnant...so I think she has a weakness for him too. Whatever the case it should be interesting to see this play out. I do believe more and more that she will die by the hands of Tyrion or Jaime. I've been wondering about this too, it appears Qyburn might be playing his own game here and it wasn't actually Cersei who ordered the deaths of Tyrion and Jaime.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 4, 2019 13:44:37 GMT
I've been wondering about this too, it appears Qyburn might be playing his own game here and it wasn't actually Cersei who ordered the deaths of Tyrion and Jaime. I could see this being true if Qyburn hadn't included Tyrion. Cersei has wanted Tyrion dead since he was a baby. I can see her giving this order to Qyburn to carry out. She finds Jaime to be a traitor now.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 4, 2019 13:55:54 GMT
I've been wondering about this too, it appears Qyburn might be playing his own game here and it wasn't actually Cersei who ordered the deaths of Tyrion and Jaime. I could see this being true if Qyburn hadn't included Tyrion. Cersei has wanted Tyrion dead since he was a baby. I can see her giving this order to Qyburn to carry out. She finds Jaime to be a traitor now. I think that's what makes it easier for Bronn to swallow. To me it's odd that there would be a need to involve an assassination plot at all. If they survived the zombies, they would still be a small part of a plan.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 20:03:41 GMT
I think Jaime is full board on the other team. If he's not right now then he will be once Bronn tries to kill him or Tyrion which I'm not entirely sure he's going to go through with. Then after that maybe Brienne dies saving Jaime from The Mountain. This will then lead to Jaime killing Cersei after what I imagine will be a big monologue from Cersei. I see it like Jaime wants to kill her but be believes that she's pregnant only for Cersei to take advantage of this and either stab Jaime herself or somebody like Qyburn does only for Jaime to kill him. Cersei then confesses to a dying Jaime that she isn't even pregnant and this gives Jaime a lasting bit of energy where he strangles the bitch and they both die together.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 4, 2019 21:09:20 GMT
I've been wondering about this too, it appears Qyburn might be playing his own game here and it wasn't actually Cersei who ordered the deaths of Tyrion and Jaime. I could see this being true if Qyburn hadn't included Tyrion. Cersei has wanted Tyrion dead since he was a baby. I can see her giving this order to Qyburn to carry out. She finds Jaime to be a traitor now. didnt think of qyburn going behind cerseis back like that , but i do know he is very loyal to her unless he thinks taking out tyrion /jamie will benefit cersei somehow keeping her throne i mean is obvious about tyrion but jamie? yes cersei said she wanted tyrion dead which puzzles me then why didnt she kill him when she had the chance in S7 when it was just her tyrion and the mountain it could have happened very easily and i think no matter what blood is thicker than water she still couldnt do it even when tyrion told her to
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Post by northernlad on May 4, 2019 21:24:32 GMT
I could see this being true if Qyburn hadn't included Tyrion. Cersei has wanted Tyrion dead since he was a baby. I can see her giving this order to Qyburn to carry out. She finds Jaime to be a traitor now. didnt think of qyburn going behind cerseis back like that , but i do know he is very loyal to her unless he thinks taking out tyrion /jamie will benefit cersei somehow keeping her throne i mean is obvious about tyrion but jamie? yes cersei said she wanted tyrion dead which puzzles me then why didnt she kill him when she had the chance in S7 when it was just her tyrion and the mountain it could have happened very easily and i think no matter what blood is thicker than water she still couldnt do it even when tyrion told her to It is odd that she has had several chances to kill Tyrion but she hasn't. I mean hell, she could have done it a long time ago and been done with it. But she hasn't. Maybe she simply can't bring herself to do it???
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 4, 2019 21:51:30 GMT
didnt think of qyburn going behind cerseis back like that , but i do know he is very loyal to her unless he thinks taking out tyrion /jamie will benefit cersei somehow keeping her throne i mean is obvious about tyrion but jamie? yes cersei said she wanted tyrion dead which puzzles me then why didnt she kill him when she had the chance in S7 when it was just her tyrion and the mountain it could have happened very easily and i think no matter what blood is thicker than water she still couldnt do it even when tyrion told her to It is odd that she has had several chances to kill Tyrion but she hasn't. I mean hell, she could have done it a long time ago and been done with it. But she hasn't. Maybe she simply can't bring herself to do it??? I don;t think she's had several times and not be willing to go through with it. The time in season 7 where they are alone is not a good example since they weren't really alone. If she had killed the Hand of Dany, it would have started the war early and without preparation. She has tried to kill him at least a few times.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 2:09:52 GMT
It is odd that she has had several chances to kill Tyrion but she hasn't. I mean hell, she could have done it a long time ago and been done with it. But she hasn't. Maybe she simply can't bring herself to do it??? I don;t think she's had several times and not be willing to go through with it. The time in season 7 where they are alone is not a good example since they weren't really alone. If she had killed the Hand of Dany, it would have started the war early and without preparation. She has tried to kill him at least a few times. I believe this is the correct answer. Had she killed Tyrion when she was ill prepared and had dragons to deal with it would have been a massively dumbass decision on her part. She's playing the long game here as shown by her looking smarter than everyone by not sending her armies. Plus I also get the sense that she wants Tyrion to die but she doesn't want to be the one to get her hands dirty. She seems more than happy to let him get beheaded or just murdered. Also, I'm kind of expecting some sort of twist to come here and that Tyrion might end up turning on Dany. I don't think that Tyrion was just flat out stupid enough to think Cersei was going to backstab them. I think they worked something out.
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Post by northernlad on May 5, 2019 3:07:12 GMT
I don;t think she's had several times and not be willing to go through with it. The time in season 7 where they are alone is not a good example since they weren't really alone. If she had killed the Hand of Dany, it would have started the war early and without preparation. She has tried to kill him at least a few times. I believe this is the correct answer. Had she killed Tyrion when she was ill prepared and had dragons to deal with it would have been a massively dumbass decision on her part. She's playing the long game here as shown by her looking smarter than everyone by not sending her armies. Plus I also get the sense that she wants Tyrion to die but she doesn't want to be the one to get her hands dirty. She seems more than happy to let him get beheaded or just murdered. Also, I'm kind of expecting some sort of twist to come here and that Tyrion might end up turning on Dany. I don't think that Tyrion was just flat out stupid enough to think Cersei was going to backstab them. I think they worked something out. Nah, that goes against everything we've known about Tyrion. They didn't work something out. It's not how his character works. If that were the case, it makes him very much like Cersei and he isn't.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 5, 2019 3:31:27 GMT
didnt think of qyburn going behind cerseis back like that , but i do know he is very loyal to her unless he thinks taking out tyrion /jamie will benefit cersei somehow keeping her throne i mean is obvious about tyrion but jamie? yes cersei said she wanted tyrion dead which puzzles me then why didnt she kill him when she had the chance in S7 when it was just her tyrion and the mountain it could have happened very easily and i think no matter what blood is thicker than water she still couldnt do it even when tyrion told her to It is odd that she has had several chances to kill Tyrion but she hasn't. I mean hell, she could have done it a long time ago and been done with it. But she hasn't. Maybe she simply can't bring herself to do it??? She's learned that Tyrion wasn't Joffrey's murderer. He still killed their father, but that's not quite the same. Of course, the Cersei-hating rabble, which ought to be pretty close to the Daenerys-liking scum, dwells on easy prejudices rather than observation and thought. Tyrion, however, is now Daenerys' Hand, and that makes him a real enemy but I don't see Cersei wanting Jaime dead. That Qyburn thing looks dodgy.
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Post by sdm3 on May 5, 2019 5:10:56 GMT
Jaime will be the 1000th Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch.
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May 5, 2019 5:23:42 GMT
Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 5, 2019 5:23:42 GMT
Jaime will be the 1000th Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch. This implies there would be a need for a Night's Watch. So what animated the Night King still exists, somewhere, and that body was as expendable as that of White Walkers or wights?
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Post by sdm3 on May 5, 2019 5:41:34 GMT
Jaime will be the 1000th Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch. This implies there would be a need for a Night's Watch. So what animated the Night King still exists, somewhere, and that body was as expendable as that of White Walkers or wights? Just wait and see, summer child.
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May 5, 2019 6:10:13 GMT
Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 5, 2019 6:10:13 GMT
This implies there would be a need for a Night's Watch. So what animated the Night King still exists, somewhere, and that body was as expendable as that of White Walkers or wights? Just wait and see, summer child. The idea of the Night King stupidly getting himself killed doesn't work and the global outrage of halfwits on the Internet at the show making a mess of its "main story-line" is just too ridiculous to be justified. They'll be shown the mirror. This is what GoT has always done: misdirection.
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