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Post by goz on May 9, 2019 22:15:49 GMT
Actually it does since there has been an important relationship between religion and science throughout much of history, including confrontations going on since before Galileo to past Al Gore. Science and rationalism has shaped many Christian apologist arguments for many hundreds of years (at times proactively and others reactively). I disagree because no attempt has been made to maker a case to tie this article to religion. It is about the quality of published scientific studies. It is not about the history of science, which is what your argument is about. Therefore I stand on my statement. Unless an attempt is made to tie this in with religion in some way. it is off-topic and should not have been posted here. Technically, I agree with your point about it being off topic, however if you have been following recent discussions on this board there is a precedent for linking religion and science in more general discussions and there are currently several ( or more) posters who consistently make points about science being more unreliable than 'common sense' traditional knowledge and edicts to follow issued by religions. To me this discussion is relevant. It is 'their' perception that t is relevant due to their worldview, whereas you or I or others with perhaps for general knowledge find it irrelevant if you accept the facts of the compendium of human knowledge and understanding how things work in the world is the sphere of science and NOT archaic religion
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Post by lunda2222 on May 9, 2019 22:23:59 GMT
I disagree because no attempt has been made to maker a case to tie this article to religion. It is about the quality of published scientific studies. It is not about the history of science, which is what your argument is about. Therefore I stand on my statement. Unless an attempt is made to tie this in with religion in some way. it is off-topic and should not have been posted here. Technically, I agree with your point about it being off topic, however if you have been following recent discussions on this board there is a precedent for linking religion and science in more general discussions and there are currently several ( or more) posters who consistently make points about science being more unreliable than 'common sense' traditional knowledge and edicts to follow issued by religions. To me this discussion is relevant. It is 'their' perception that t is relevant due to their worldview, whereas you or I or others with perhaps for general knowledge find it irrelevant if you accept the facts of the compendium of human knowledge and understanding how things work in the world is the sphere of science and NOT archaic religion
In my opinion common sense is neither.
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Post by goz on May 9, 2019 22:28:04 GMT
Technically, I agree with your point about it being off topic, however if you have been following recent discussions on this board there is a precedent for linking religion and science in more general discussions and there are currently several ( or more) posters who consistently make points about science being more unreliable than 'common sense' traditional knowledge and edicts to follow issued by religions. To me this discussion is relevant. It is 'their' perception that t is relevant due to their worldview, whereas you or I or others with perhaps for general knowledge find it irrelevant if you accept the facts of the compendium of human knowledge and understanding how things work in the world is the sphere of science and NOT archaic religion
In my opinion common sense is neither.
Interesting comment. Maybe worth a whole thread. What IS common sense?
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Post by lunda2222 on May 9, 2019 22:49:15 GMT
In my opinion common sense is neither.
Interesting comment. Maybe worth a whole thread. What IS common sense? Actually it's a part of a quote from Benjamin Franklin.
"Common Sense is neither common nor sensical. Much of what passes for common sense is not based on any underlying principle it’s just anecdotes that have worked for the current situation."
Wikipedia lists a fairly good definiton:
Common sense is sound practical judgment concerning everyday matters, or a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge that is shared by ("common to") nearly all people.
Which is all fine and good. The problem is that it's (in my experience) usually said by people who seek simple answer to complicated problems.
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Post by phludowin on May 9, 2019 23:00:22 GMT
In my opinion common sense is neither.
Interesting comment. Maybe worth a whole thread. What IS common sense? My opinion: Common sense is another word for prejudice, and prejudice exists where people refuse to think. So telling people to use common sense means telling them not to think.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 13, 2019 20:28:17 GMT
I like how most of you science worshippers are ignoring the information in the OP LOL. That's because none of it is actually news. Most of us understood all of the stuff in the OP to be the case for a long time. The institutions of science are designed to weed out the garbage from the gold and it takes a long time to do so. It's only novel information to ignoramuses like you. Oh, mang. An "ignoramus"? You really zinged him.
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Post by goz on May 13, 2019 21:55:14 GMT
That's because none of it is actually news. Most of us understood all of the stuff in the OP to be the case for a long time. The institutions of science are designed to weed out the garbage from the gold and it takes a long time to do so. It's only novel information to ignoramuses like you. Oh, mang. An "ignoramus"? You really zinged him. Sometimes an accurate adjective ( or descriptive noun in this case ) is very effective. BWT he usually calls ignoramuses 'shit for brains' so he was going easy. The OP is BOTH.
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Post by Aj_June on May 13, 2019 22:29:55 GMT
Science is not in any crisis. The main problem is that there are people & groups forwarding unscientific things as scientific. There are groups that fund studies which are apparently based on science but are actually not. We should not trust everything we see on the internet. We should see the quality of research and then only give any consideration. Further, when we read things about subjects on which we don't have academic knowledge then we should be even more careful. It's easy to mislead people by claiming something scientific when it is not. Sadly so many people forward fake studies or reports through emails & WhatsApp.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 14, 2019 0:44:42 GMT
Yeah, we’re gonna have to go back to using magic spells and prayer to make our microwave TVs work.
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Post by Catman on May 14, 2019 1:05:50 GMT
Yeah, we’re gonna have to go back to using magic spells and prayer to make our microwave TVs work. Are you saying people don't have to do that?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 15, 2019 2:21:10 GMT
Yeah, we’re gonna have to go back to using magic spells and prayer to make our microwave TVs work. Are you saying people don't have to do that? New Catman told me that you still have to do it.
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