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Post by WullieFort on May 10, 2019 17:22:05 GMT
Other shows that are seldom mentioned in "favourite TV shows threads" are the much underrated "Banshee" and "Justified
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 10, 2019 17:26:22 GMT
I'll go for: The Wire BBad Lost The latter isn't on your list (nor anybody else's, for that matter) because the writers' fucked up the ending but before that, it had an array of characters seldom matched by many other shows. That is why I've excluded GoT. There are too few characters I give a shit about. Arya, the Hound, Jamie and that's about it. Even the legendary Sopranos didn't hook me as much as McNulty, Bunk, Bubbles, Stringer, Bodie, et al. And BBad rose above the Walter White, "dying chemist" storyline and gave us, Mike, Gus, Taco, Skinny Pete, Hank et al. Lost almost suffocated us with the variety of characters. No sooner had we gotten to know Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Kate, Sayid, etc when up pops Ben and then Desmond and then Jacob and then the Man in Black. The measure of a good show is "who do you remember" “Lost” was great (well, except for the ending). Never before and never since have I had the feeling of anticipation that I had before each new season and indeed each new episode of “Lost”. Only “Game of Thrones” comes close (and maybe even surpasses it for this last season).
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Post by sdm3 on May 10, 2019 17:55:48 GMT
I know this isn’t the point of the thread but I just wanted to mention 24. I just remembered how awesome that show was in its prime (first five seasons, I’d say).
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Post by Aj_June on May 10, 2019 18:10:28 GMT
I know this isn’t the point of the thread but I just wanted to mention 24. I just remembered how awesome that show was in its prime (first five seasons, I’d say). My favourite show is that which has Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the Mother of Dragons, the Unburnt and the Breaker of Chains. Do you claim there is any show that is better than that?
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Post by Aj_June on May 10, 2019 18:14:40 GMT
I'll go for: The Wire BBad Lost The latter isn't on your list (nor anybody else's, for that matter) because the writers' fucked up the ending but before that, it had an array of characters seldom matched by many other shows. That is why I've excluded GoT. There are too few characters I give a shit about. Arya, the Hound, Jamie and that's about it. Even the legendary Sopranos didn't hook me as much as McNulty, Bunk, Bubbles, Stringer, Bodie, et al. And BBad rose above the Walter White, "dying chemist" storyline and gave us, Mike, Gus, Taco, Skinny Pete, Hank et al. Lost almost suffocated us with the variety of characters. No sooner had we gotten to know Jack, Locke, Sawyer, Kate, Sayid, etc when up pops Ben and then Desmond and then Jacob and then the Man in Black. The measure of a good show is "who do you remember" “Lost” was great (well, except for the ending). Never before and never since have I had the feeling of anticipation that I had before each new season and indeed each new episode of “Lost”. Only “Game of Thrones” comes close (and maybe even surpasses it for this last season). I have heard a lot of praise for "Lost". Would you recommend it? Keep in mind that I almost never watch anything except Golden age Hollywood, old Japanese movies, old Soviet and European cinema. I have only seen one TV series of modern era and that is GOT. I don't even watch current Hollywood films. If Lost is exceptionally good then I can try.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 18:17:14 GMT
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 10, 2019 18:40:12 GMT
Seasons 1 and 2 of Fargo were up there with the best that TV has to offer. Great performances, off-beat comedy, terrific action, consistently gripping storylines, fleshed-out characters that you root for, and some excellent production design and cinematography. Billy Bob Thornton and Martin Freeman were perfect foils in season 1, and the entire cast of season 2 showed up and brought it. I'll take Hanzee on my team 10 times out of 10. Season 3 wasn't nearly as good, despite a brilliant turn from David Thewlis and the always solid Michael Stuhlbarg, but if you enjoy the first 2 seasons, then season 3 is definitely worth watching.
Season 1 of True Detective, particularly those middle episodes, also up there with some of the best TV I've seen. Season 2, ugh. Bad performances and so fucking convoluted that it was painful to watch. I haven't checked out season 3, but heard it was somewhere in between seasons 1 and 2 in terms of quality.
It's not a "TV Show" in the truest sense of this thread, but The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is on its way to being included in these types of lists. As well written, shot, acted, edited and directed as anything else I've seen. Plus, when I watched it the first time, it constantly surprised me and went in directions that just improved every aspect of the show. Probably my #1 must-watch for current programming.
I saw Twin Peaks mentioned somewhere in here and yes, it did help lay the groundwork for cinematic-quality television long before the Sopranos. It had its ups and downs (I've watched the first 2 seasons several times and ever since the original run, I always skip the tedious Donna and James storyline) and was somewhat limited by the trappings of being on a network and shown during prime time, but it brought an artistic quality to a medium that really never had it before, at least not on that scale or with any regularity. Fans of the show will remember the famous Episode 14, aka "Lonely Souls," where the killer is revealed. That shit shook me, and everyone else who watched it, to the core. It made that stupid "who shot JR" bullshit look like Sesame Street.
I personally LOVED season 3 as it had a much bigger budget, was free of the shackles of needing mass appeal to justify its existence, and upped the ante by being on cable. It was funny, scary, heart-warming, thought-provoking, spiritual, it expanded upon the original story in numerous ways and, naturally, was batshit crazy at times. As a fan of the show, it was everything I wanted although I'll admit that it's not for everyone and won't find its way onto many people's "top" lists. Still, if you just want to sit back, and enjoy the ride for what it is and appreciate the filmmaking, performances, and overall daring nature of it all, then look no further than Twin Peaks. Episode 8, "Gotta Light" (my avatar!) is a mind-bender that ranks among one of the finest hours of television I've ever had the pleasure of watching. It even has a random Nine Inch Nails performance!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 18:46:03 GMT
BOB always freaked me out (RIP) in TP
When it was revealed Leyland was the killer and you saw Bob staring back in the mirror - both with an evil crazy grin - yes 'shook me' is the proper term to describe it.
*** Sidenote - True Detective Season 1 was brilliant although I was a bit let down by the ending. Was actually hoping for a 'Fight Club' ending where Harrelson and Matthew McCona(however you spell it) were the same character.
One of the coolest tripiest haunting intros:
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Post by NJtoTX on May 10, 2019 18:52:36 GMT
Mad Men and The Sopranos, the two greatest shows of all time.
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 10, 2019 19:33:41 GMT
BOB always freaked me out (RIP) in TP
When it was revealed Leyland was the killer and you saw Bob staring back in the mirror - both with an evil crazy grin - yes 'shook me' is the proper term to describe it.
*** Sidenote - True Detective Season 1 was brilliant although I was a bit let down by the ending. Was actually hoping for a 'Fight Club' ending where Harrelson and Matthew McCona(however you spell it) were the same character.
One of the coolest tripiest haunting intros:
I know a lot of people didn't love the ending, to each their own of course. To me, the show was more about a complicated and evolving relationship between two people who are diametrically opposed in almost every way than it was about the crime that serves as the driving plot device. The final episode culminates with them finally understanding one another in a certain way. The investigation and ultimate resolution of the crime itself is almost a backdrop to all of that. If they threw in some sort of twist, or a "Long Night" type of drawn out climax, to me that would have gone against what the story was really about. Great call on the intro BTW (although truth be told, I had remembered the song differently). Intros are an often over-looked part of shows and movies. Sure, you can just throw away a few perfectly good minutes of storytelling in order to just flash credits across a black screen, or you can use that opportunity to set the mood. It's actually one of my biggest complaints about the show Billions, which isn't a great show by any stretch; every episode starts off the same, with this quick and abrupt flash of the word "BILLIONS" and then a 4-second drone shot of lower Manhattan, with this soft ominous music playing. Then the episode starts, with almost every episode starting with a rather upbeat song. It's a jarring shift and it creates this awkward tone to start each episode.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 10, 2019 19:47:04 GMT
“Lost” was great (well, except for the ending). Never before and never since have I had the feeling of anticipation that I had before each new season and indeed each new episode of “Lost”. Only “Game of Thrones” comes close (and maybe even surpasses it for this last season). I have heard a lot of praise for "Lost". Would you recommend it? Keep in mind that I almost never watch anything except Golden age Hollywood, old Japanese movies, old Soviet and European cinema. I have only seen one TV series of modern era and that is GOT. I don't even watch current Hollywood films. If Lost is exceptionally good then I can try. I hesitate to recommend it. Considering what you just said, I am not sure you'd enjoy it. It is a mystery with supernatural elements. The thing about Lost is that the ending was very disappointing. I don't think I have ever come across anyone who liked it - but up until the very end fans really loved it. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 10, 2019 20:01:22 GMT
I have heard a lot of praise for "Lost". Would you recommend it? Keep in mind that I almost never watch anything except Golden age Hollywood, old Japanese movies, old Soviet and European cinema. I have only seen one TV series of modern era and that is GOT. I don't even watch current Hollywood films. If Lost is exceptionally good then I can try. I hesitate to recommend it. Considering what you just said, I am not sure you'd enjoy it. It is a mystery with supernatural elements. The thing about Lost is that the ending was very disappointing. I don't think I have ever come across anyone who liked it - but up until the very end fans really loved it. After all of that, Rosebud was just a sled. |
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Post by xystophoros on May 11, 2019 2:26:57 GMT
“Lost” was great (well, except for the ending). Never before and never since have I had the feeling of anticipation that I had before each new season and indeed each new episode of “Lost”. Only “Game of Thrones” comes close (and maybe even surpasses it for this last season). Lost was pretty good for two seasons, when the show was about people trying to survive on a very weird island, then it completely sucked. It’s a perfect example of why the JJ Abrams “mystery box” method of storytelling is just a gimmick. The writers kept on adding mystery after mystery with no payoff. They ended a season with this huge mystery about the Numbers and the hatch, and what was the payoff? Some guy sitting inside, pushing buttons and using an exercise bike. You could tell they had no idea where they were going with the plot when they introduced “The Others” as this group of people living in quaint little houses with flower beds, holding community book clubs. It was retarded. And from there, where did they go? Some asshole talking to an imaginary creature or person. How can anyone think that was a good show?
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