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Post by Carl LaFong on May 11, 2019 14:37:26 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 11, 2019 14:38:44 GMT
Pies won by the way!  |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on May 11, 2019 14:41:29 GMT
very tasty
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Post by hoskotafe3 on May 12, 2019 22:07:33 GMT
Looks like the Melbourne fan deserved what he got. What a piece of garbage. There's always trouble at Melbourne v Hawthorn games. Dates back to a spiteful playoff game in 1987 and then a bonkers merger attempt in about 1996. Some harsh words were spoken against Melbourbe by Hawthorn and the bitterness remains.
Collingwood/ Carlton is a story of friendship and betrayal, of a priviledged white collar suburb (Carlton) who took a scruffy despised working class suburb (Collingwood) under their wing, only for their protege to rebel by defeating them in the 1910 Grand Final using rough tactics. Ever since it's been on. The most darstardly incident was in the lead up to the two teams playing in the 1938 Grand Final. Collingwood coach Jock McHale was the foremen at a brewery where most of the players worked. He rostered the Carlton players to clean the brewing tanks at 4am and gave the Magpies the day off. It did not have the effect Jock planned: Carlton destroyed Collingwood later that day.
And so these men fighting were playing out the ancient battle between working class and priviledge, social justice vs meritocracy. Either that or they'd had too much to drink and got in a barny...
While this is not uncommon in Melbourne, it rarely happens in Sydney these days and most Victorians who make the trip interstate are relatively civilised.
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 12, 2019 22:16:32 GMT
Looks like the Melbourne fan deserved what he got. What a piece of garbage. There's always trouble at Melbourne v Hawthorn games. Dates back to a spiteful playoff game in 1987 and then a bonkers merger attempt in about 1996. Some harsh words were spoken against Melbourbe by Hawthorn and the bitterness remains. Collingwood/ Carlton is a story of friendship and betrayal, of a priviledged white collar suburb (Carlton) who took a scruffy despised working class suburb (Collingwood) under their wing, only for their protege to rebel by defeating them in the 1910 Grand Final using rough tactics. Ever since it's been on. The most darstardly incident was in the lead up to the two teams playing in the 1938 Grand Final. Collingwood coach Jock McHale was the foremen at a brewery where most of the players worked. He rostered the Carlton players to clean the brewing tanks at 4am and gave the Magpies the day off. It did not have the effect Jock planned: Carlton destroyed Collingwood later that day. And so these men fighting were playing out the ancient battle between working class and priviledge, social justice vs meritocracy. Either that or they'd had too much to drink and got in a barny... While this is not uncommon in Melbourne, it rarely happens in Sydney these days and most Victorians who make the trip interstate are relatively civilised.  Interesting stuff!
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Post by Carl LaFong on May 12, 2019 22:18:57 GMT
Was Jock in the movie "The Club" based on Jock McHale?
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Post by weststigersbob on May 12, 2019 22:25:06 GMT
I remember the Melbourne/Hawthorn merger debate. Never, ever going to work. I distinctly remember Jeff Kennett (who was Victorian Premier at the time) basically saying that it was a takeover of Hawthorn by a less successful club (and then famously ripped the Hawk off the front of a Melbourne guernsey) then followed by another speaker who essentially said that Hawthorn were only successful because of country zoning (which crippled Melbourne among other clubs and indirectly led to South Melbourne becoming Sydney) and ripping off other clubs. Both speakers got rapturous applause from their side of the meeting. No chance of Harmony there.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on May 12, 2019 23:20:57 GMT
The best part was, as fate would have it, Melbourne played Hawthorn in the final round of 1996. Melbourne were already eliminated, but Hawthorn could qualify for the finals with a win. It was a rough game with an incredible atmosphere as both supporter groups believed they were watching their team for the last time. Jason Dunstall (the only real Queensland immortal) kicked 10 goals and Hawks got home by a point. The game is known as "The Merger Game" and is one of the bedt bits of sporting theatre I've ever seen.
Alas, Jock was dead by the time the events that took place in The Club occurred. It was a bit like Citizen Kane in that everyone knew who it was about (Collingwood), and it was based on a real event, but it always purported to be a work of fiction.
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