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Post by movieliker on May 13, 2019 7:59:51 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell rings surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children.
Why do you think?
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Post by Marendil on May 13, 2019 8:11:38 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell ring surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children. Why do you think? After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
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Post by movieliker on May 13, 2019 8:20:45 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell rings surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children. Why do you think? After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
That's a good an explanation as any. Thanks Marendil. |
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Post by movieliker on May 13, 2019 8:25:15 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell ring surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children. Why do you think? After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
I understood her wanting to level the Red Keep. But I couldn't figure out why she would want to torch all the men, women and children. That dragon fire is something huh? Not only does it burn flammables, it knocks down structures built out of rock, stone and mortar. |
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Post by Marendil on May 13, 2019 8:29:51 GMT
After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
That's a good an explanation as any. Thanks Marendil. Personally I think they could have done more for us in that regard, but that's what we got.
Oh, also Varys confessing to Jon that he wasn't sure how Dany's coin had landed.
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Post by Marendil on May 13, 2019 8:42:36 GMT
After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
I understood her wanting to level the Red Keep. But I couldn't figure out why she would want to torch all the men, women and children. That dragon fire is something huh? Not only does it burn flammables, it knocks down structures built out of rock, stone and plaster. Yeah, me too. I didn't get that either. Especially the strafing runs of the fleeing smallfolk. It's one sort of ruthlessness not to care much who gets hurt while you achieve your aims, it's quite another to be doing it on purpose.
Dragonfire melts rock, remember Harrenhal? As I recall there's only two citadels that are supposedly dragon-proof, Dragonstone and Storm's End. The latter has walls 40'-80' thick.
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Post by movieliker on May 13, 2019 8:45:21 GMT
I understood her wanting to level the Red Keep. But I couldn't figure out why she would want to torch all the men, women and children. That dragon fire is something huh? Not only does it burn flammables, it knocks down structures built out of rock, stone and mortar. Yeah, me too. I didn't get that either. Especially the strafing runs of the fleeing smallfolk. It's one sort of ruthlessness not to care much who gets hurt while you achieve your aims, it's quite another to be doing it on purpose.
Dragonfire melts rock, remember Harrenhal? As I recall there's only two citadels that are supposedly dragon-proof, Dragonstone and Storm's End. The latter has walls 40'-80' thick.
So much for those two weeks ago who thought the dragons might need to rest. Dany's dragon flew for at least two, three hours with almost a continuous stream of fire. |
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Post by Nightman on May 13, 2019 10:51:46 GMT
Yeah, me too. I didn't get that either. Especially the strafing runs of the fleeing smallfolk. It's one sort of ruthlessness not to care much who gets hurt while you achieve your aims, it's quite another to be doing it on purpose.
Dragonfire melts rock, remember Harrenhal? As I recall there's only two citadels that are supposedly dragon-proof, Dragonstone and Storm's End. The latter has walls 40'-80' thick.
So much for those two weeks ago who thought the dragons might need to rest. Dany's dragon flew for at least two, three hours with almost a continuous stream of fire. I was wondering if Drogon would run out of fire, or if he would just get bored. Magical creature or not, breathing fire for that long can't be pleasant. If Rhaegal and/or Viserion had survived, they could have helped out instead of Drogon having to bbq the whole place by himself.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 13, 2019 10:52:32 GMT
The writers needed her to.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 13, 2019 13:29:15 GMT
She had decided to before Missandei's death: And those who found it surprising haven't been paying attention: |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 13, 2019 13:33:32 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell ring surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children. Why do you think? After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
shes no queen of people, shes queen of madness and ashes that is how she will be remembered , she wants to get people to love her with fear, wow what a great ruler shes pathetic as long as shes top of the wheel all is ok , and D&D stupid excuse about her seeing the red keep was laughable people at KL will be wishing cersei would come back
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 13, 2019 13:43:48 GMT
people at KL will be wishing cersei would come back There was nothing wrong with Cersei. I have no idea why people dislike her. I suppose this is a sentiment limited to bottom drawer losers without anything to look forward to, the poor, short, fat, ugly and bald. Here's what they look like:
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 13, 2019 13:57:27 GMT
The writers needed her to. ^^^THIS^^^
It was force written so that she would go crazy. I could see her going in for a direct attack on the Keep (where Cersei was) and there maybe being some collateral damage from that, but this was a direct attack on civilians. After saving all those lives everywhere else she's been, she suddenly goes hog wild in the one place she's trying to win over more than any? Emotionally hurt or not, it doesn't make much sense. She'll create more enemies than allies this way.
And one doesn't lose one's mind suddenly. If they were trying to make the case that she was going crazy they should have started sooner in the series. The only unreasonable thing she's done in previous seasons was when she killed the Tarlys. Outside of that the craziness was all this season. They were setting it up, but not organically. Rather, forced.
Still... great episode!
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Post by bluerisk on May 13, 2019 14:14:39 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell ring surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children. Why do you think? After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
And thus she destroyed the legacy of her ancestors?! Stain her families' name forever. She is now the mad queen, and she won't make it for long. The loyalist didn't fight with Rhaegar because they feared his father, but because they believed in the cause. If Dany had believers within the realm, she has lost them when she attacked KL. In the end Tarly and Cercei were right: she will establish a reign of terror only held by the brute force executed by foreigners: the Unsullied and the Dothraki. She is far worse then her father. Aside the political damage: Around 30% of the pre-war GDP-powerhouse of the realm gone. Maybe accounting for nearly 50% of the GDP before its destructing, after many parts of the realm had gone dark during the wars. Important infrastructure (like the alley of black smiths with the best craftmen of the realm)...all gone, like a huge proportion of the labor force, and the top notch labor force of the realm. In this depleted and war-torn realm, there is only one beacon left: Old Town. King's Landing was bitterly needed to rebuilt the realm...but ok, the show runners do not care what comes after, they just want to get out of this mess they created.
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Post by Nightman on May 13, 2019 16:00:19 GMT
The only unreasonable thing she's done in previous seasons was when she killed the Tarlys. And even that wasn't that unreasonable. What else could she have done with them? None of the other kings would have simply let a pair of traitors go.
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Post by shadyvsesham on May 13, 2019 16:01:13 GMT
Because D&D wanted to rush this nonsense.....
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Post by shinnickneth on May 13, 2019 16:01:51 GMT
She is supposed to be the Queen of the people, the common man and woman, the peasants. But after the bell rings surrender, she torches all of Kings' Landing, burning and killing men, women and children. Why do you think?
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Post by movieliker on May 13, 2019 16:19:05 GMT
After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
shes no queen of people, shes queen of madness and ashes that is how she will be remembered , she wants to get people to love her with fear, wow what a great ruler shes pathetic as long as shes top of the wheel all is ok , and D&D stupid excuse about her seeing the red keep was laughable people at KL will be wishing cersei would come back Who is left at the Red Keep? Seems like nobody survived. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 13, 2019 16:26:51 GMT
After the episode D&D said she decided to make it 'personal' as she looked at the Red Keep her ancestors had built.
I also gathered from her conversation with Jon she decided she needed to inspire fear because she couldn't get them to love her like they did Jon.
And thus she destroyed the legacy of her ancestors?! Stain her families' name forever. She is now the mad queen, and she won't make it for long. The loyalist didn't fight with Rhaegar because they feared his father, but because they believed in the cause. If Dany had believers within the realm, she has lost them when she attacked KL. In the end Tarly and Cercei were right: she will establish a reign of terror only held by the brute force executed by foreigners: the Unsullied and the Dothraki. She is far worse then her father. Aside the political damage: Around 30% of the pre-war GDP-powerhouse of the realm gone. Maybe accounting for nearly 50% of the GDP before its destructing, after many parts of the realm had gone dark during the wars. Important infrastructure (like the alley of black smiths with the best craftmen of the realm)...all gone, like a huge proportion of the labor force, and the top notch labor force of the realm. In this depleted and war-torn realm, there is only one beacon left: Old Town. King's Landing was bitterly needed to rebuilt the realm...but ok, the show runners do not care what comes after, they just want to get out of this mess they created. Her family has always been stained. The dude who built Red Keep was a psycho. I think the storyline regarding Dany is stupid. It’s almost like the writers want all the women to be bonkers, jealous, and spiteful. Further if a ruler is good and loved in Essos what exactly changes when they cross the sea. Not a single person in Highgarden’s army was killed after the battle except for 2 people who openly and emphatically stated they would rather die than ally with her. Of course she was going to kill them since she has no reason to keep them hostage. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 13, 2019 16:35:16 GMT
Not a single person in Highgarden’s army was killed after the battle except for 2 people who openly and emphatically stated they would rather die than ally with her. Of course she was going to kill them since she has no reason to keep them hostage. Keeping hostages is what any medieval warlord ever did and you are the piece of shit who excuses plain murder. Welcome to the scum bucket, garbage.
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