Post by bluerisk on May 13, 2019 13:50:54 GMT
Harbingers of Death
Destroyer of Hope
If Tyrion "The Stupid" Lannister had let Daenerys have her way to attack the Red Keep, and only the Red Keep: countless people hadn't lost their live in the North as well as in the South.
There would have been no need to convince Cercei, and thus no mission North that cost a dragon and provided the Night's King what he needed to breach the wall. There would have been no Iron fleet equipped with scorpions but three dragons. And with King's Lading secured the realm would have been united, the wall still intact and three dragons alive to defend it; the Night's King had never breached the wall.
Unlike the books, the show does not "know" the Volonqar, the Azor Hai, or the Horn of Winter.
One could have adapted Qyburn's scorpions to bring them North to deliver these bolt with massive dragon glass arrow at the top. Even if it only hurts him, or paralyses him, it would help, while the dragons burn his army peu à peu to ashes.
Without a dragon as mount, he would relatively easy to attacked with 20 or more scorpions hence he had stay either far away enough from the dragons, or any attempt to attack them would have been his demise.
And his army is slow, hence you would mount 20 or more Scorpions at Eastwatch, Castle Black and the other castles, while others were kept in reserve to relocate them if needed. Again: his army is slow, and Bran can tell its location whenever needed. Hence: a surprise attack by the Knight's would be next to impossible - he can't outrun the living (mounted troops) save dragons.
He might - like I said - survive somehow these bolt, but without a head, or his arm, he had to stop personal engagement (at least for a while)...maybe he can grow it back, or he is maimed. But with his armies burned to ashes (and nothing alive or dead left to recruit - only ashes), his White Walkers killed by dragon glas bolts, he would be left alone and severely maimed at best.
I'm also not that convinced about this "undoing": Heart tree (would be directly in front of Castle Black), a Valyrian Blade (Jon has Longclaw), and putting one in front of the other into his chest. I think a dragon glass bolt had a similar effect. And if not: maim him severely, drag his torso to the tree and finish him.
It should have been Cercei first with a limited attack on the Red Keep: no brutes force but using the giving resources (three dragons) to the maximum effect.
Evtl. one should have scouted the Iron fleet first and finish it with all three dragons, and before Qyburn had the time to equip them with scorpions.
This would have had much less drama, and no big battle at Winterfell, no big villain Cercei, no napalm over KL and thus D&D turned Tyrion into something goddamn stupid.
Destroyer of Hope
If Tyrion "The Stupid" Lannister had let Daenerys have her way to attack the Red Keep, and only the Red Keep: countless people hadn't lost their live in the North as well as in the South.
There would have been no need to convince Cercei, and thus no mission North that cost a dragon and provided the Night's King what he needed to breach the wall. There would have been no Iron fleet equipped with scorpions but three dragons. And with King's Lading secured the realm would have been united, the wall still intact and three dragons alive to defend it; the Night's King had never breached the wall.
Unlike the books, the show does not "know" the Volonqar, the Azor Hai, or the Horn of Winter.
One could have adapted Qyburn's scorpions to bring them North to deliver these bolt with massive dragon glass arrow at the top. Even if it only hurts him, or paralyses him, it would help, while the dragons burn his army peu à peu to ashes.
Without a dragon as mount, he would relatively easy to attacked with 20 or more scorpions hence he had stay either far away enough from the dragons, or any attempt to attack them would have been his demise.
And his army is slow, hence you would mount 20 or more Scorpions at Eastwatch, Castle Black and the other castles, while others were kept in reserve to relocate them if needed. Again: his army is slow, and Bran can tell its location whenever needed. Hence: a surprise attack by the Knight's would be next to impossible - he can't outrun the living (mounted troops) save dragons.
He might - like I said - survive somehow these bolt, but without a head, or his arm, he had to stop personal engagement (at least for a while)...maybe he can grow it back, or he is maimed. But with his armies burned to ashes (and nothing alive or dead left to recruit - only ashes), his White Walkers killed by dragon glas bolts, he would be left alone and severely maimed at best.
I'm also not that convinced about this "undoing": Heart tree (would be directly in front of Castle Black), a Valyrian Blade (Jon has Longclaw), and putting one in front of the other into his chest. I think a dragon glass bolt had a similar effect. And if not: maim him severely, drag his torso to the tree and finish him.
It should have been Cercei first with a limited attack on the Red Keep: no brutes force but using the giving resources (three dragons) to the maximum effect.
Evtl. one should have scouted the Iron fleet first and finish it with all three dragons, and before Qyburn had the time to equip them with scorpions.
This would have had much less drama, and no big battle at Winterfell, no big villain Cercei, no napalm over KL and thus D&D turned Tyrion into something goddamn stupid.
