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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 25, 2019 17:14:00 GMT
George R. R. Martin is still SUPOSSED to write two more books in the series, right? I'm guessing there will be some changes. Some major, some minor. But now that the show has become so popular and surpassed where he's at in the story I imagine that he'll really want to make changes so as to differentiate what comes up from what Benioff and Weiss came up with.
What do you think he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change it too?
Lets throw out our ideas...
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 26, 2019 2:28:47 GMT
There already were changes.
There can;t be more than 50% shared between the books and show.
I'm going to assume the ending will be similar although I hope that they reverse Iron Throne drama and zombie apocalypse mayhem.
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Post by Nightman on May 26, 2019 20:05:45 GMT
It will be clearer that Bloodraven and the Children of the Forest are manipulating Bran to give themselves power over mankind. I should have seen that coming.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 27, 2019 12:54:50 GMT
George R. R. Martin is still SUPOSSED to write two more books in the series, right? I'm guessing there will be some changes. Some major, some minor. But now that the show has become so popular and surpassed where he's at in the story I imagine that he'll really want to make changes so as to differentiate what comes up from what Benioff and Weiss came up with.
What do you think he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change it too?
Lets throw out our ideas... Over the years, Martin has released several sample chapters from the next book. 1 Victarion chapter, 1 Theon, 1 Mercy, 1 Arianne, 1 Barristan, 1 Tyrion, and 1 Alayne. The show is quite different from the books in terms of character portrayals and the fates of characters. Stannis doesn't burn his daughter in the books and is very much alive. His forces seize Theon as his prisoner after Theon fled with NOT-Arya (the Boltons use a childhood friend of Sansa's named Jeyne Poole to marry Ramsay to and pretend she's Arya...it's Jeyne that gets raped in the books not Sansa) from Ramsay at Winterfell. Stannis also has Asha Greyjoy (she's referred to as "Yara" on the show) because she comes to try to save her brother and gets caught by Stannis' forces outside Winterfell instead. Barristan doesn't die in some back alley and is actually getting ready to lead a huge battle for Dany. Cersei is a schizophrenic in the books (she appears to just be blinded by denial/anger in the final season of the show instead) and sees hallucinations of Tyrion with a tail everywhere. She thinks repeatedly about The Tower of the Hand and its believed she will burn that in the books - not the Sept of Baelor like in the show. Sansa is off with Littlefinger pretending to be his bastard daughter (she dyes her hair the color of Littlefinger's to hide her Stark features but the dye is extremely rare and she's running low on it...). I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Brienne's is searching for Cat's daughters but doesn't ever run into either of them like in the show - instead she encounters a resurrected, revengeful Catelyn Stark (brought back by Beric Dondarrion who gave up his life to bring her back) who now goes by "Lady Stoneheart". Stoneheart is very different than she was in her prior life. She hangs Brienne and Podrick Payne from a tree until Brienne agrees to bring Jaime Lannister to her. The fate of Podrick isn't revealed, but it's believed Stoneheart holds Pod hostage and intends to kill him if Brienne doesn't keep her promise.
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Post by Winter_King on May 27, 2019 13:14:14 GMT
Well considering that the character named Night's King was a just a human who married an Other, the whole White Walker threat will be dealt very differently. For starters it won't be Arya to single-handedly solve the entire conflict. I very much doubt that the Wall will fall due to the Others having killed and raised one of Dany's dragons.
Euron is a vastly different character in the books and he looks more and more like the last the human obstacle before the Others and Dany. Plus there is the whole Young Griff plot that was entirely cut from show.
Some major story beats however, will probably still happen . Including Mad Queen Dany and the burning of King's Landing and Bran will probably end up as king with Jon exiled. He will probably stay with Val, the wildling girl.
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Post by Winter_King on May 27, 2019 13:17:54 GMT
George R. R. Martin is still SUPOSSED to write two more books in the series, right? I'm guessing there will be some changes. Some major, some minor. But now that the show has become so popular and surpassed where he's at in the story I imagine that he'll really want to make changes so as to differentiate what comes up from what Benioff and Weiss came up with.
What do you think he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change it too?
Lets throw out our ideas... Over the years, Martin has released several sample chapters from the next book. 1 Victarion chapter, 1 Theon, 1 Mercy, 1 Arianne, 1 Barristan, 1 Tyrion, and 1 Alayne. The show is quite different from the books in terms of character portrayals and the fates of characters. Stannis doesn't burn his daughter in the books and is very much alive. His forces seize Theon as his prisoner after Theon fled with NOT-Arya (the Boltons use a childhood friend of Sansa's named Jeyne Poole to marry Ramsay to and pretend she's Arya...it's Jeyne that gets raped in the books not Sansa) from Ramsay at Winterfell. Stannis also has Asha Greyjoy (she's referred to as "Yara" on the show) because she comes to try to save her brother and gets caught by Stannis' forces outside Winterfell instead. Barristan doesn't die in some back alley and is actually getting ready to lead a huge battle for Dany. Cersei is a schizophrenic in the books (she appears to just be blinded by denial/anger in the final season of the show instead) and sees hallucinations of Tyrion with a tail everywhere. She thinks repeatedly about The Tower of the Hand and its believed she will burn that in the books - not the Sept of Baelor like in the show. Sansa is off with Littlefinger pretending to be his bastard daughter (she dyes her hair the color of Littlefinger's to hide her Stark features but the dye is extremely rare and she's running low on it...). I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Brienne's is searching for Cat's daughters but doesn't ever run into either of them like in the show - instead she encounters a resurrected, revengeful Catelyn Stark (brought back by Beric Dondarrion who gave up his life to bring her back) who now goes by "Lady Stoneheart". Stoneheart is very different than she was in her prior life. She hangs Brienne and Podrick Payne from a tree until Brienne agrees to bring Jaime Lannister to her. The fate of Podrick isn't revealed, but it's believed Stoneheart holds Pod hostage and intends to kill him if Brienne doesn't keep her promise. D&D have said that one of the things that George told them that would happen in the future was the issue of Shireen being burned as a sacrifice. Another thing was the "Hold the Door" scene from season 6. I think Melisandre might burn her without telling Stannis because if I recall correctly, Shireen stayed in Castle Black with Melisandre while Stannis went to deal with the Boltons.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 27, 2019 13:53:10 GMT
Over the years, Martin has released several sample chapters from the next book. 1 Victarion chapter, 1 Theon, 1 Mercy, 1 Arianne, 1 Barristan, 1 Tyrion, and 1 Alayne. The show is quite different from the books in terms of character portrayals and the fates of characters. Stannis doesn't burn his daughter in the books and is very much alive. His forces seize Theon as his prisoner after Theon fled with NOT-Arya (the Boltons use a childhood friend of Sansa's named Jeyne Poole to marry Ramsay to and pretend she's Arya...it's Jeyne that gets raped in the books not Sansa) from Ramsay at Winterfell. Stannis also has Asha Greyjoy (she's referred to as "Yara" on the show) because she comes to try to save her brother and gets caught by Stannis' forces outside Winterfell instead. Barristan doesn't die in some back alley and is actually getting ready to lead a huge battle for Dany. Cersei is a schizophrenic in the books (she appears to just be blinded by denial/anger in the final season of the show instead) and sees hallucinations of Tyrion with a tail everywhere. She thinks repeatedly about The Tower of the Hand and its believed she will burn that in the books - not the Sept of Baelor like in the show. Sansa is off with Littlefinger pretending to be his bastard daughter (she dyes her hair the color of Littlefinger's to hide her Stark features but the dye is extremely rare and she's running low on it...). I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Brienne's is searching for Cat's daughters but doesn't ever run into either of them like in the show - instead she encounters a resurrected, revengeful Catelyn Stark (brought back by Beric Dondarrion who gave up his life to bring her back) who now goes by "Lady Stoneheart". Stoneheart is very different than she was in her prior life. She hangs Brienne and Podrick Payne from a tree until Brienne agrees to bring Jaime Lannister to her. The fate of Podrick isn't revealed, but it's believed Stoneheart holds Pod hostage and intends to kill him if Brienne doesn't keep her promise. D&D have said that one of the things that George told them that would happen in the future was the issue of Shireen being burned as a sacrifice. Another thing was the "Hold the Door" scene from season 6. I think Melisandre might burn her without telling Stannis because if I recall correctly, Shireen stayed in Castle Black with Melisandre while Stannis went to deal with the Boltons. I think Shireen comes a bit later. If Melisandre resurrects Jon, who is dead/dying in the books that would take priority over Stannis and especially since she sees something in Jon already. I would hate that Stannis not appear as desperate as he does in the show since he's on that same trajectory in the books.
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Post by Winter_King on May 27, 2019 14:03:10 GMT
D&D have said that one of the things that George told them that would happen in the future was the issue of Shireen being burned as a sacrifice. Another thing was the "Hold the Door" scene from season 6. I think Melisandre might burn her without telling Stannis because if I recall correctly, Shireen stayed in Castle Black with Melisandre while Stannis went to deal with the Boltons. I think Shireen comes a bit later. If Melisandre resurrects Jon, who is dead/dying in the books that would take priority over Stannis and especially since she sees something in Jon already. I would hate that Stannis not appear as desperate as he does in the show since he's on that same trajectory in the books. Possibly. The chapters released so far don't seem to show Stannis as desperate. In fact I think part of the reason why so many book readers had issues with season 5 is that Stannis does seem to be in the better position to beat the Bolton according to the books. I think Jon will warg into Ghost before being resurrected.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 28, 2019 7:27:35 GMT
D&D have said that one of the things that George told them that would happen in the future was the issue of Shireen being burned as a sacrifice. Another thing was the "Hold the Door" scene from season 6. I think Melisandre might burn her without telling Stannis because if I recall correctly, Shireen stayed in Castle Black with Melisandre while Stannis went to deal with the Boltons. It doesn't mean it will transpire the same way in the books. Yes, she will burn. Yes, Stannis doesn't take Shireen with him when he sets out for Winterfell. He does leave her behind at Castle Black with the expressed reason being to protect her life. He tells his men in the books that if he should die, they're to give their lives to seat Shireen on the Iron Throne as his heir or die in the attempt. He has no reason to burn her. He also has Theon and Asha Greyjoy (renamed to "Yara" in the show of course) as his prisoners, which means he has a lot of King's Blood. George R.R. Martin said that Hordor will mean "Hold the door" in the books, but the way it will be revealed is completely different.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 28, 2019 14:32:26 GMT
I think Stannis’ odyssey will be far longer or more complex than on the show and Shireen will be a nice way of showing how far he will go to take the throne.
Stannis is not honorable.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 28, 2019 17:37:34 GMT
George R. R. Martin is still SUPOSSED to write two more books in the series, right? I'm guessing there will be some changes. Some major, some minor. But now that the show has become so popular and surpassed where he's at in the story I imagine that he'll really want to make changes so as to differentiate what comes up from what Benioff and Weiss came up with.
What do you think he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change it too?
Lets throw out our ideas... Over the years, Martin has released several sample chapters from the next book. 1 Victarion chapter, 1 Theon, 1 Mercy, 1 Arianne, 1 Barristan, 1 Tyrion, and 1 Alayne. The show is quite different from the books in terms of character portrayals and the fates of characters. Stannis doesn't burn his daughter in the books and is very much alive. His forces seize Theon as his prisoner after Theon fled with NOT-Arya (the Boltons use a childhood friend of Sansa's named Jeyne Poole to marry Ramsay to and pretend she's Arya...it's Jeyne that gets raped in the books not Sansa) from Ramsay at Winterfell. Stannis also has Asha Greyjoy (she's referred to as "Yara" on the show) because she comes to try to save her brother and gets caught by Stannis' forces outside Winterfell instead. Barristan doesn't die in some back alley and is actually getting ready to lead a huge battle for Dany. Cersei is a schizophrenic in the books (she appears to just be blinded by denial/anger in the final season of the show instead) and sees hallucinations of Tyrion with a tail everywhere. She thinks repeatedly about The Tower of the Hand and its believed she will burn that in the books - not the Sept of Baelor like in the show. Sansa is off with Littlefinger pretending to be his bastard daughter (she dyes her hair the color of Littlefinger's to hide her Stark features but the dye is extremely rare and she's running low on it...). I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Brienne's is searching for Cat's daughters but doesn't ever run into either of them like in the show - instead she encounters a resurrected, revengeful Catelyn Stark (brought back by Beric Dondarrion who gave up his life to bring her back) who now goes by "Lady Stoneheart". Stoneheart is very different than she was in her prior life. She hangs Brienne and Podrick Payne from a tree until Brienne agrees to bring Jaime Lannister to her. The fate of Podrick isn't revealed, but it's believed Stoneheart holds Pod hostage and intends to kill him if Brienne doesn't keep her promise. Wow. Thank you. That IS different. I'll be looking forward to them then!
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Post by Seto on Jun 3, 2019 8:50:50 GMT
I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Still training with Bloodraven in the Weirwood tree.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 3, 2019 14:49:16 GMT
I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Still training with Bloodraven in the Weirwood tree. that may be different in the books too. He seems more free roaming in the show but in the book I could have sworn the ability of traveling through time is tied to the weirwood trees. He’s also a greenseer though which is about prophecy plus a warg.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 3, 2019 15:20:19 GMT
He’s also a green deer though which is about prophecy plus a warg.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 3, 2019 15:21:44 GMT
He’s also a green deer though which is about prophecy plus a warg. Oops but that would be an awesome character.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 4, 2019 10:19:28 GMT
It will be clearer that Bloodraven and the Children of the Forest are manipulating Bran to give themselves power over mankind. I should have seen that coming. When Bran went all blank eyed, I was hoping he was conjuring up the Children of the Forest to come and help at the battle. Sadly, that didn't happen. So I guess he was off ordering up some more Starbucks.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 4, 2019 10:22:24 GMT
George R. R. Martin is still SUPOSSED to write two more books in the series, right? I'm guessing there will be some changes. Some major, some minor. But now that the show has become so popular and surpassed where he's at in the story I imagine that he'll really want to make changes so as to differentiate what comes up from what Benioff and Weiss came up with.
What do you think he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change it too?
Lets throw out our ideas... Over the years, Martin has released several sample chapters from the next book. 1 Victarion chapter, 1 Theon, 1 Mercy, 1 Arianne, 1 Barristan, 1 Tyrion, and 1 Alayne. The show is quite different from the books in terms of character portrayals and the fates of characters. Stannis doesn't burn his daughter in the books and is very much alive. His forces seize Theon as his prisoner after Theon fled with NOT-Arya (the Boltons use a childhood friend of Sansa's named Jeyne Poole to marry Ramsay to and pretend she's Arya...it's Jeyne that gets raped in the books not Sansa) from Ramsay at Winterfell. Stannis also has Asha Greyjoy (she's referred to as "Yara" on the show) because she comes to try to save her brother and gets caught by Stannis' forces outside Winterfell instead. Barristan doesn't die in some back alley and is actually getting ready to lead a huge battle for Dany. Cersei is a schizophrenic in the books (she appears to just be blinded by denial/anger in the final season of the show instead) and sees hallucinations of Tyrion with a tail everywhere. She thinks repeatedly about The Tower of the Hand and its believed she will burn that in the books - not the Sept of Baelor like in the show. Sansa is off with Littlefinger pretending to be his bastard daughter (she dyes her hair the color of Littlefinger's to hide her Stark features but the dye is extremely rare and she's running low on it...). I can't remember what Bran is currently doing in the books...it's been too long. Brienne's is searching for Cat's daughters but doesn't ever run into either of them like in the show - instead she encounters a resurrected, revengeful Catelyn Stark (brought back by Beric Dondarrion who gave up his life to bring her back) who now goes by "Lady Stoneheart". Stoneheart is very different than she was in her prior life. She hangs Brienne and Podrick Payne from a tree until Brienne agrees to bring Jaime Lannister to her. The fate of Podrick isn't revealed, but it's believed Stoneheart holds Pod hostage and intends to kill him if Brienne doesn't keep her promise. It sounds a lot more interesting then the final few seasons were.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 4, 2019 10:27:20 GMT
George R. R. Martin is still SUPOSSED to write two more books in the series, right? I'm guessing there will be some changes. Some major, some minor. But now that the show has become so popular and surpassed where he's at in the story I imagine that he'll really want to make changes so as to differentiate what comes up from what Benioff and Weiss came up with.
What do you think he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change?
And
What do you hope he'll change it too?
Lets throw out our ideas... I would like it if Brienne got together with Tormund We saw more of the Direwolves and saw one of the Starks waarg into one Lady Stoneheart - I haven't read the books but she sounds really badass Jaime is the one to kill Cersei - or neither of them die (good or bad, they were two of the most interesting characters on the show) The battle of fire and ice doesn't end in one silly episode
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 4, 2019 10:35:16 GMT
It will be clearer that Bloodraven and the Children of the Forest are manipulating Bran to give themselves power over mankind. I should have seen that coming. When Bran went all blank eyed, I was hoping he was conjuring up the Children of the Forest to come and help at the battle. Sadly, that didn't happen. So I guess he was off ordering up some more Starbucks. Children of the Forest were all killed. Everytime Bran's eyes went blank he was warging. I think they literally showed that every single time.
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Post by Morgana on Jun 4, 2019 10:44:05 GMT
When Bran went all blank eyed, I was hoping he was conjuring up the Children of the Forest to come and help at the battle. Sadly, that didn't happen. So I guess he was off ordering up some more Starbucks. Children of the Forest were all killed. Everytime Bran's eyes went blank he was warging. I think they literally showed that every single time. You are such a party pooper. My version of events is better - especially since if he had been ordering up Starbucks it would have been a hell of a lot more useful than what he was really doing - basically nothing.
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