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Post by Agent of Chaos on Apr 12, 2017 14:31:12 GMT
I'm tired of people finding excuses for critics liking a movie that they don't like( last Hugh Jackman Wolverine in this case). When critics praise something they like they're absolutely right, obviously. How about critics liked Logan because it's a damn great movie? I think I remember formersamhmd trying to defend Iron Fist.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 12, 2017 15:10:00 GMT
I'm tired of people finding excuses for critics liking a movie that they don't like( last Hugh Jackman Wolverine in this case). When critics praise something they like they're absolutely right, obviously. How about critics liked Logan because it's a damn great movie? I think I remember formersamhmd trying to defend Iron Fist. I just finished the series, it really wasn't bad. At worst it was mediocre.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 12, 2017 20:56:34 GMT
I'm tired of people finding excuses for critics liking a movie that they don't like( last Hugh Jackman Wolverine in this case). When critics praise something they like they're absolutely right, obviously. How about critics liked Logan because it's a damn great movie? You can't just rely on the critics you need to decide for yourself if you like a movie or not. I enjoyed the Dark Knight but,the critics opinions had nothing to do with my opinion. Logan was praised but I found Average at Best and so was the Dark Knight Rises,but I did not like that movie. I don't think Man of Steel got the best reviews,but I enjoyed far more than TDKR and Logan. The First Capt America I think got Average Reviews,but I enjoyed it and think its Underrated. Iron fist got Negative reviews but I enjoyed it more than I thought would,its my second favorite series behind Daredevil.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Apr 13, 2017 14:52:04 GMT
An epic conclusion to a brilliant trilogy of our beloved superhero, people on the internet need to stop bitching about The Dark Knight Rises being terrible (seriously? Try to compare the quality between TDKR and The Avengers made at the same year...)
P.S That being said I still love The Avengers, it's very fun and enjoyable
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 13, 2017 17:15:55 GMT
An epic conclusion to a brilliant trilogy of our beloved superhero, people on the internet need to stop bitching about The Dark Knight Rises being terrible (seriously? Try to compare the quality between TDKR and The Avengers made at the same year...) P.S That being said I still love The Avengers, it's very fun and enjoyableFrankly, the success of Nolan's films was mainly because back in 2005 and 2008 people were still ashamed of comic book movies that weren't afraid of embracing what they were. By 2012 the novelty of the "grounded" approach was gone. Release Batman Begins or Dark Knight today, they'd do less well. EDIT: Heck, people today are STILL somewhat ashamed of CBMs that embrace what they are. It's why we still have those who want the MCU to be more "grounded".
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Post by politicidal on Apr 13, 2017 17:55:51 GMT
I'm tired of people finding excuses for critics liking a movie that they don't like( last Hugh Jackman Wolverine in this case). When critics praise something they like they're absolutely right, obviously. How about critics liked Logan because it's a damn great movie? Nevah!!!!
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 13, 2017 18:26:41 GMT
Logan is a much better movie.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 15, 2017 9:03:02 GMT
An epic conclusion to a brilliant trilogy of our beloved superhero, people on the internet need to stop bitching about The Dark Knight Rises being terrible (seriously? Try to compare the quality between TDKR and The Avengers made at the same year...) P.S That being said I still love The Avengers, it's very fun and enjoyableFrankly, the success of Nolan's films was mainly because back in 2005 and 2008 people were still ashamed of comic book movies that weren't afraid of embracing what they were. By 2012 the novelty of the "grounded" approach was gone. Release Batman Begins or Dark Knight today, they'd do less well. EDIT: Heck, people today are STILL somewhat ashamed of CBMs that embrace what they are. It's why we still have those who want the MCU to be more "grounded". That's why people loved Raimi's first two Spider-Man films while Ang Lee's arthouse Hulk movie was a bomb? Two well made films with Oscar caliber performances are going to be well received whether it is today or 10 years ago, evidenced by Logan's current success. And this whole "embracing what they are" thing sounds like it is spoken by someone who hasn't read a lot of comics. Plenty of them are grounded and take themselves seriously.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 15, 2017 13:32:36 GMT
Frankly, the success of Nolan's films was mainly because back in 2005 and 2008 people were still ashamed of comic book movies that weren't afraid of embracing what they were. By 2012 the novelty of the "grounded" approach was gone. Release Batman Begins or Dark Knight today, they'd do less well. EDIT: Heck, people today are STILL somewhat ashamed of CBMs that embrace what they are. It's why we still have those who want the MCU to be more "grounded". That's why people loved Raimi's first two Spider-Man films while Ang Lee's arthouse Hulk movie was a bomb? Two well made films with Oscar caliber performances are going to be well received whether it is today or 10 years ago, evidenced by Logan's current success. And this whole "embracing what they are" thing sounds like it is spoken by someone who hasn't read a lot of comics. Plenty of them are grounded and take themselves seriously. And plenty of them are crazy over-the-top with absolutely no shame over it, although there are people who want ALL comics to be that way with absolutely nothing wondrous whatsoever. As for Raimi, his was a very rare case. He had plenty of fans of his Evil Dead movies which were pretty over the top so fortunately he attracted the right kind of fanbase. Let's put it this way, if Nolan or Bryan Singer made a Captain America movie they'd make him some random Veteran returning from the Middle East who wear an American Flag T-Shirt and spends all his time fighting a Neo-Nazi Druglord in his apartment building who paints his face red.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 15, 2017 22:28:51 GMT
That's why people loved Raimi's first two Spider-Man films while Ang Lee's arthouse Hulk movie was a bomb? Two well made films with Oscar caliber performances are going to be well received whether it is today or 10 years ago, evidenced by Logan's current success. And this whole "embracing what they are" thing sounds like it is spoken by someone who hasn't read a lot of comics. Plenty of them are grounded and take themselves seriously. And plenty of them are crazy over-the-top with absolutely no shame over it, although there are people who want ALL comics to be that way with absolutely nothing wondrous whatsoever. As for Raimi, his was a very rare case. He had plenty of fans of his Evil Dead movies which were pretty over the top so fortunately he attracted the right kind of fanbase. Let's put it this way, if Nolan or Bryan Singer made a Captain America movie they'd make him some random Veteran returning from the Middle East who wear an American Flag T-Shirt and spends all his time fighting a Neo-Nazi Druglord in his apartment building who paints his face red. I think there's room for both. I love Nolan's first two Batman films, and I also love Raimi's first two Spider-Man films. And while the Evil Dead franchise was a cult favorite, I don't think it was quite big enough to make up for the love Spider-Man 1 and 2 had. Sounds fairly accurate for a Nolanized Captain America, but I've never noticed Singer shying away from the fantastical. No one who takes himself too seriously is going to put Toad in their film.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 24, 2017 6:06:15 GMT
Both Logan and The Dark Knight Rises are great movies.
The only thing that kept Logan from becoming a masterpiece was the lack of a formidable villain.
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