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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 16, 2019 15:46:29 GMT
In Infinity War, Strange claimed that he saw 14 million possible scenarios and there was only 1 winning scenario (which I've already proven false in another thread). But even Strange's so-called "winning" scenario, which involves giving Thanos the time stone so Thanos wouldn't kill Tony Stark so Tony Stark can take the gauntlet off past Thanos' hand in 2023 is a flawed and losing scenario because Thanos should still win.
In Endgame, past Thanos found out about the Avengers' plan to travel back in time to retrieve the stones because past Nebula has all of 2023 Nebula's memories. Since 2023 Nebula saw Iron Man take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and snap Thanos out of existence in 2023, that means past Thanos would've already known that in the past. So instead of traveling to 2023, past Thanos would've traveled to 2018 and just killed Tony Stark right after Strange gave the time stone to 2018 Thanos. Then Tony Stark would've have been alive in 2023 to take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand.
So as long as 2023 Nebula is alive, then Strange's so-called "winning" scenario actually has no chance at all of winning because past Thanos would know everything that happens in 2023 since past Nebula has all of 2023 Nebula's memories. Strange's scenario would only work if the Avengers had killed 2023 Nebula before Tony Stark took the gauntlet off Thanos' hand in 2023.
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Post by poutinep on Jun 16, 2019 16:45:28 GMT
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Post by gljbradley on Jun 16, 2019 16:50:04 GMT
Sounds like the entire movie is a plot hole.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 16, 2019 17:57:06 GMT
Pro Tip: These "flaws" PSAs would be more effective if you published them prior to the film grossing billions of dollars. Remember to get out to see the MCU films as early and as often as you can.
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Post by dazz on Jun 16, 2019 18:34:15 GMT
In Infinity War, Strange claimed that he saw 14 million possible scenarios and there was only 1 winning scenario (which I've already proven false in another thread). But even Strange's so-called "winning" scenario, which involves giving Thanos the time stone so Thanos wouldn't kill Tony Stark so Tony Stark can take the gauntlet off past Thanos' hand in 2023 is a flawed and losing scenario because Thanos should still win. In Endgame, past Thanos found out about the Avengers' plan to travel back in time to retrieve the stones because past Nebula has all of 2023 Nebula's memories. Since 2023 Nebula saw Iron Man take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and snap Thanos out of existence in 2023, that means past Thanos would've already known that in the past. So instead of traveling to 2023, past Thanos would've traveled to 2018 and just killed Tony Stark right after Strange gave the time stone to 2018 Thanos. Then Tony Stark would've have been alive in 2023 to take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand. So as long as 2023 Nebula is alive, then Strange's so-called "winning" scenario actually has no chance at all of winning because past Thanos would know everything that happens in 2023 since past Nebula has all of 2023 Nebula's memories. Strange's scenario would only work if the Avengers had killed 2023 Nebula before Tony Stark took the gauntlet off Thanos' hand in 2023. Just another example of bad writing and huge plotholes in MCU movies. So in your head 2014 Nebula who whilst in the same time as 2023 Nebula should have memories from a time in the future of 2023 Nebula's memory, which she there for does not have to share?
That's next level retarded thinking stupid.
Also you proved nothing in the other topic you just keep repeating the same thing over and over again and ignore half of the shit anyway, as per usual, you are a deformed potato of a sentient lifeform, get help.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 17, 2019 1:08:51 GMT
Lol. This thread is next level stupid. Either you're completely making stuff up now or you're too stupid to understand what happened in the movie. Past Nebula would never have any memory of Thanos getting snapped out of existence. I'd try to explain it to you but you probably wouldn't understand anyway, so just take my word for it. You'll hurt your head less.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2019 2:20:24 GMT
Past Nebula would never have any memory of Thanos getting snapped out of existence. You've just proven by your ignorant statement that you still don't understand time travel.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 17, 2019 2:28:31 GMT
Past Nebula would never have any memory of Thanos getting snapped out of existence. You've just proven by your ignorant statement that you still don't understand time travel. Oh but I do. Tell me, how exactly would she have known back then when future Nebula first arrived in their timeline that Thanos would get snapped out of existence?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 17, 2019 2:34:23 GMT
You've just proven by your ignorant statement that you still don't understand time travel. Oh but I do. Tell me, how exactly would she have known back then when future Nebula first arrived in their timeline that Thanos would get snapped out of existence?Oh snap (pun intended), DC-Fan, he's got you there. Your move, bro!
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Post by poutinep on Jun 17, 2019 2:40:47 GMT
which involves giving Thanos the time stone so Thanos wouldn't kill Tony Stark so Tony Stark can take the gauntlet off past Thanos' hand in 2023 is a flawed and losing scenario because Thanos should still win. Tony didn't take the gauntlet off Thanos. He took the stones out of the gauntlet and put them in his own glove. You either haven't seen the movie or have very bad eyesight or are just very stupid or some combination.. Since 2023 Nebula saw Iron Man take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and snap Thanos out of existence in 2023, that means past Thanos would've already known that in the past. She did not see that before going back in time. So as long as 2023 Nebula is alive, then Strange's so-called "winning" scenario actually has no chance at all of winning because past Thanos would know everything that happens in 2023 since past Nebula has all of 2023 Nebula's memories. Strange's scenario would only work if the Avengers had killed 2023 Nebula before Tony Stark took the gauntlet off Thanos' hand in 2023. Again, for emphasis, no, Nebula did not see Tony take the stones (not gauntlet) from Thanos then snap before she went back in time because that didn't happen before they went back in time.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2019 2:56:48 GMT
which involves giving Thanos the time stone so Thanos wouldn't kill Tony Stark so Tony Stark can take the gauntlet off past Thanos' hand in 2023 is a flawed and losing scenario because Thanos should still win. Tony didn't take the gauntlet off Thanos. He took the stones out of the gauntlet and put them in his own glove. You either haven't seen the movie or have very bad eyesight or are just very stupid or some combination.. Since 2023 Nebula saw Iron Man take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and snap Thanos out of existence in 2023, that means past Thanos would've already known that in the past. She did not see that before going back in time. So as long as 2023 Nebula is alive, then Strange's so-called "winning" scenario actually has no chance at all of winning because past Thanos would know everything that happens in 2023 since past Nebula has all of 2023 Nebula's memories. Strange's scenario would only work if the Avengers had killed 2023 Nebula before Tony Stark took the gauntlet off Thanos' hand in 2023. Again, for emphasis, no, Nebula did not see Tony take the stones (not gauntlet) from Thanos then snap before she went back in time because that didn't happen before they went back in time. Once again, you've proven by your ignorant statements that you still don't understand time travel.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2019 2:58:27 GMT
You've just proven by your ignorant statement that you still don't understand time travel. how exactly would she have known back then when future Nebula first arrived in their timeline that Thanos would get snapped out of existence? Wow, you still don't understand it!
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Post by poutinep on Jun 17, 2019 2:59:39 GMT
Tony didn't take the gauntlet off Thanos. He took the stones out of the gauntlet and put them in his own glove. You either haven't seen the movie or have very bad eyesight or are just very stupid or some combination.. She did not see that before going back in time. Again, for emphasis, no, Nebula did not see Tony take the stones (not gauntlet) from Thanos then snap before she went back in time because that didn't happen before they went back in time. Once again, you've proven by your ignorant statements that you still don't understand time travel. No I understand this movie's time travel rules perfectly fine. You can't even acknowledge it doesn't follow Back to the Future rules.
Nebula didn't go into the quantum tunnel after Tony snapped to kill Thanos, so how is past Thanos or past Nebula or past Anyone supposed to know that Tony snapped to kill past Thanos?
Is your plan here really to just make asinine statements with no basis, then instead of explaining just accuse others of not understanding something? Pretty lame troll tactic, even for you.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2019 3:00:40 GMT
Once again, you've proven by your ignorant statements that you still don't understand time travel. No I understand this movie's time travel rules perfectly fine. You can't even acknowledge it doesn't follow Back to the Future rules.
Nebula didn't go into the quantum tunnel after Tony snapped to kill Thanos, so how is past Thanos or past Nebula or past Anyone supposed to know that Tony snapped to kill past Thanos?
Wow, you still don't understand it!
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Post by poutinep on Jun 17, 2019 3:06:20 GMT
No I understand this movie's time travel rules perfectly fine. You can't even acknowledge it doesn't follow Back to the Future rules.
Nebula didn't go into the quantum tunnel after Tony snapped to kill Thanos, so how is past Thanos or past Nebula or past Anyone supposed to know that Tony snapped to kill past Thanos?
Wow, you still don't understand it! Right, I don't understand why you think knowledge of Tony's snap could somehow go from 2023 Nebula to past Thanos given that Nebula didn't time travel after the snap. Nebula only traveled back before Tony snapped so....?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2019 3:54:39 GMT
Wow, you still don't understand it! Right, I don't understand why you think knowledge of Tony's snap could somehow go from 2023 Nebula to past Thanos given that Nebula didn't time travel after the snap. Nebula only traveled back before Tony snapped so....? Wow, you still don't understand it!
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Post by poutinep on Jun 17, 2019 3:56:48 GMT
Right, I don't understand why you think knowledge of Tony's snap could somehow go from 2023 Nebula to past Thanos given that Nebula didn't time travel after the snap. Nebula only traveled back before Tony snapped so....? Wow, you still don't understand it! your last 5 posts are all the same.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 17, 2019 4:14:06 GMT
Right, I don't understand why you think knowledge of Tony's snap could somehow go from 2023 Nebula to past Thanos given that Nebula didn't time travel after the snap. Nebula only traveled back before Tony snapped so....? Wow, you still don't understand it! scabab Hauntedknight87 - I'd like to report this user for posting repetitive SPAM on the board. Please see his/her previous three, identical posts, thank you.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jun 17, 2019 4:16:23 GMT
Right, I don't understand why you think knowledge of Tony's snap could somehow go from 2023 Nebula to past Thanos given that Nebula didn't time travel after the snap. Nebula only traveled back before Tony snapped so....? Wow, you still don't understand it! Then explain it idiot!
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 17, 2019 7:10:22 GMT
how exactly would she have known back then when future Nebula first arrived in their timeline that Thanos would get snapped out of existence? Wow, you still don't understand it! And see how you can't even defend yourself. Man you're dumb.
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