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Post by csale on Oct 9, 2019 7:24:22 GMT
I really hope that this stuff eventually stops from Snyder. I know I’m probably in the minority here, but I think the narrative is turning into one of great regret for this epic that we never got to see. Nothing from his treatment of the DC properties suggested that he could pull off any greater film than what was presented.
I don’t disagree with the contention that the execs were a huge problem here, but Snyder had every opportunity to make a good film prior to this and produced one mediocre film with great cinematics and one cheesy, terribly written franken-mess of a film.
To be honest, the only thing I’ve seen of Snyder’s filmography that has really impressed me was the intro to Watchmen- it was the only time he showed deft hands at dealing with story elements, not just aesthetics.
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Post by Larcen26 on Oct 9, 2019 14:37:43 GMT
I will forever say that there are 3 things Snyder does well... Short form Narrative. Visual excitement Casting. He is a great choice for Martian Manhunter. I assume this excludes Jesse Eisenberg? Actually no. I have never been opposed to "MilleniaLex" as a concept, and Eisenberg is probably the best to tackle it... I think the main problem was he was written so poorly. He delivered the "Red Capes are Coming" monologue about as well as anybody ever could have.
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Post by Larcen26 on Oct 9, 2019 14:39:39 GMT
I really hope that this stuff eventually stops from Snyder. I know I’m probably in the minority here, but I think the narrative is turning into one of great regret for this epic that we never got to see. Nothing from his treatment of the DC properties suggested that he could pull off any greater film than what was presented. I don’t disagree with the contention that the execs were a huge problem here, but Snyder had every opportunity to make a good film prior to this and produced one mediocre film with great cinematics and one cheesy, terribly written franken-mess of a film. To be honest, the only thing I’ve seen of Snyder’s filmography that has really impressed me was the intro to Watchmen- it was the only time he showed deft hands at dealing with story elements, not just aesthetics.I have said this for years, his opening credits are works of art...Sucker Punch had a masterful opening credits sequence, but...well...it was a truly terrible movie. Master at short form storytelling, essentially inept at long form.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 9, 2019 17:45:16 GMT
You saying all through Man of Steel he wasn't against him?
John Jones, detective? He hardly seemed to be against his existence. He was simply unsure if he could be trusted. He still worked with him to stop Zod. It would make a lot more sense for Martian Manhunter’s civilian identity to be a previously established character than for him to just randomly show up as John Jones. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'll work with you to get rid of this guy destroying the planet, but I don't trust you.
Why? Or he could be a captured alien that escapes and takes on a civilian identity.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 9, 2019 19:06:01 GMT
He hardly seemed to be against his existence. He was simply unsure if he could be trusted. He still worked with him to stop Zod. It would make a lot more sense for Martian Manhunter’s civilian identity to be a previously established character than for him to just randomly show up as John Jones. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'll work with you to get rid of this guy destroying the planet, but I don't trust you.
Why? Or he could be a captured alien that escapes and takes on a civilian identity.
Judging from that storyboard, it seems like Martian Manhunter’s appearance was supposed to be a big reveal within the film. Having Martian Manhunter turn out to be an already established character would certainly be a much bigger surprise than just introducing him out of nowhere and expecting people to be amazed that he’s there. Plus, the storyboard shows him talking to Lois Lane while disguised as Martha Kent, and Swanwick already knew Lois.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 9, 2019 19:19:26 GMT
I really hope that this stuff eventually stops from Snyder. I know I’m probably in the minority here, but I think the narrative is turning into one of great regret for this epic that we never got to see. Nothing from his treatment of the DC properties suggested that he could pull off any greater film than what was presented. I don’t disagree with the contention that the execs were a huge problem here, but Snyder had every opportunity to make a good film prior to this and produced one mediocre film with great cinematics and one cheesy, terribly written franken-mess of a film. To be honest, the only thing I’ve seen of Snyder’s filmography that has really impressed me was the intro to Watchmen- it was the only time he showed deft hands at dealing with story elements, not just aesthetics. Trust me, I definitely think his version of JL would’ve likely ended up being a big mess. I just think it’s interesting to get to have an idea of what he had in mind before he left the project. Regardless of his shortcomings as a storyteller, I think his version of the movie would’ve at least been more interesting to talk about compared to what we actually got.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 12, 2019 12:44:28 GMT
Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'll work with you to get rid of this guy destroying the planet, but I don't trust you.
Why? Or he could be a captured alien that escapes and takes on a civilian identity.
Judging from that storyboard, it seems like Martian Manhunter’s appearance was supposed to be a big reveal within the film. Having Martian Manhunter turn out to be an already established character would certainly be a much bigger surprise than just introducing him out of nowhere and expecting people to be amazed that he’s there. Plus, the storyboard shows him talking to Lois Lane while disguised as Martha Kent, and Swanwick already knew Lois. Just turning into a big green alien then turning into anybody else would be a surprise. Would also be a surprise reveal if it was a random white guy, then a green glow went over him after she closed the door. Or if the guy walked away and a giant ankh doorway appeared. Red-haired guy and a boom tube appeared. Guy walks away and wings came out of his back. Or a blonde guy walks away from the door gets in a car, with a blonde woman driving, and there is a bow and quiver in the backseat. Many situations for surprise reveals that doesn't need someone that was already in the movie. Hell, Deathstroke was a surprise reveal that didn't use someone that was already in the movies.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 9, 2019 19:59:07 GMT
http://instagram.com/p/B4n6eBKAQqL This pic was posted yesterday, so I’m a little late on it, but there’s not a ton of activity on this board right now, so I figured I might as well post it.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 17, 2019 1:06:58 GMT
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Nov 17, 2019 1:27:55 GMT
Just having Superman without badly CGI-ed face would be a HUGE step forward the light for me. HUGE.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 17, 2019 2:00:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 2:24:21 GMT
How is Snyder allowed to release this stuff? Isnt this WB's property?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 20, 2019 3:43:14 GMT
Here’s a photo of Gal Gadot doing ADR from January 2017. To put things into perspective, Snyder officially left production in May of that year.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2019 0:18:03 GMT
Since Snyder keeps sharing images from his version of JL, I guess I’ll keep posting them in this thread. That looks, interestingly enough, like a pretty clear visual Bride of Frankenstein reference.
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Post by leesilm on Nov 27, 2019 17:29:27 GMT
I'm just waiting for someone to tell me where I can purchase it, when it comes out. I'd love to see his cut. Heck, at one point I suggested they could just do a novelization of his cut, with some of the pictures to go with it, as a Special Edition thing.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 29, 2019 21:02:14 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 30, 2019 21:56:03 GMT
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 1, 2020 18:40:30 GMT
I really hope that this stuff eventually stops from Snyder. I know I’m probably in the minority here, but I think the narrative is turning into one of great regret for this epic that we never got to see. Nothing from his treatment of the DC properties suggested that he could pull off any greater film than what was presented. I don’t disagree with the contention that the execs were a huge problem here, but Snyder had every opportunity to make a good film prior to this and produced one mediocre film with great cinematics and one cheesy, terribly written franken-mess of a film. To be honest, the only thing I’ve seen of Snyder’s filmography that has really impressed me was the intro to Watchmen- it was the only time he showed deft hands at dealing with story elements, not just aesthetics.I have said this for years, his opening credits are works of art...Sucker Punch had a masterful opening credits sequence, but...well...it was a truly terrible movie. Master at short form storytelling, essentially inept at long form. Wait, ‘Sucker Punch’ had an opening credit?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 2, 2020 10:10:40 GMT
this is all waiting for Godot IMO. Still, I would buy a properly restored Snyder Cut for a Dollar or two just as long as the juvenile Marvel humor and absurd Superman-CGI is removed.
I do not expect this to be brilliant storytelling or a character study a la Joker or Watchmen, but this should at least work tonally as a coda to MoS and BvS, ie serious films with some substance and character development. This would make this an interesting quasi-trilogy about the rise of the JL.
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Post by miike80 on Jan 2, 2020 11:36:33 GMT
I don't hate MOS or BVS( don't love them either) and i would watch that, it can't be worse than what we got
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