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Post by Skaathar on Jun 21, 2019 18:32:26 GMT
He treated Spiderman like his protege. Don't believe he did so with anyone else. That's your answer right there.
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Post by dazz on Jun 21, 2019 18:41:36 GMT
For one thing Cap in the MCU is superhuman, he's not just peak human conditioning but superhuman, he can lift upwards of like 3000lbs and run well above 30mphs both feats being well above normal humans peaks.
And again he could of upgraded them to their specifications, Cap has the magnetic gauntlet to help him bring the shield back and hold it without him needing to consciously do so, otherwise Cap like I said in the animated shows doesn't like relying on tech to much, and I do not see this as something movie Cap wouldn't also feel.
Widow & Hawkeye's weapons could be upgraded significantly, Hawkeye could have dozens of nifty trick arrows Stark designed for him, or Stark could have created whole new sort of stuff Clint just didn't want like collapsible arrows which would allow Clint to carry 2 to 3 times as many arrows, aim assisted bows, which Clint as a finely tuned archer may have disliked because that level of upgrade fucks with his ability to do his work.
Same for Natasha her wrist devices Tony could have tricked out but to the level she would be like wtf no, and Natasha's whole thing is how versatile she is, she makes do with what she has, she's also sneaky and except when facing down say a Thanos one of her strengths is how unassuming she looks, which is also part of the Black Widow program they are meant to be deceptively deadly, you put her in a suit of armour that can fly and has lasers and rockets all over it and no one is going to assume she's not a deadly threat.
And Tony doesn't want him out risking his life or did you not catch that? Peter was catching cars and stopping thugs in a hoody and googles long before Tony came to him, he recruited Peter for the mission in Germany where he knew none of Cap's team would be trying to kill anyone, the moment Peter got hurt Tony benched him because he was scared that something bad could happen, then Tony tells him to keep the suit and just be the neighbourhood Spiderman and don't worry about the big stuff, basically Tony knew he couldn't stop Peter doing what he was already doing so he gave himself a way to help protect him whilst also monitor him, when Peter went outside the bounds Tony expected from him he tried to push him back away from the danger, Tony only eventually is willing to bring him on board because Peter showed he wasn't going to not be a hero and fighting supervillains at which point Tony unveils the Iron Spider costume which is even more armoured and this is when Peter is going to get backup by the Avengers, he doesn't bring Peter to space Peter brings himself after Tony tries to get him to safety, it's all a case of Tony knows Peter is going put himself at risk so he tries to protect him, because he is a child the others are not.
And for all we know all their outfits are made of cutting edge ultra light weight but better than military grade body armour, but all the other advancements may simple be down to what they are and aren't willing to use based on their personal preferences, given that in Homecoming Happy is heard talking about Cap's new shield and other stuff, Tony likely has made a bunch of stuff they just choose not to use.
"And Tony doesn't want him out risking his life or did you not catch that?"
Yet....he recruited him to fight. Strange.
And "aren't willing to use based on their personal preference"? That's a convenient excuse. Maybe he did make them super suits but they just didn't like the colors and were unwilling to wear them based on "personal preference" right? I mean, who knows? Maybe their super suits were at the cleaners every time we saw the characters in the movie? Maybe Black Widow and Hawkeye are just Amish?
Recruited him to fight Cap someone he knew would not be out to kill, I ask again did you simply not get that part?
As for the others they may not want to suits of amour, Falcon is trained in using the wings with that level of armour since his military days, adding more armour and shit requires him to relearn how to use the stuff, and the wings themselves act as defensive armour anyway. Hawkeye is a trained marksmen with a bow and arrow what makes him unique is his trained skill something lost in a suit of armour with tracking systems and lasers, same for Widow as I said.
The one person not outside of War Machine and Pepper who wore armour was Bruce during the time he couldn't get Hulk to come out, so what does he wear Hulkbuster armour which mostly makes up for his lack of Hulk, because that is what he is used to.
It's a common thing with this type of story that the highly trained and uniquely skilled characters don't simply want to be copies of another character and lose what makes them unique to the fight.
And nice ignoring the part where we are shown Happy talking about the new shit Tony has made from Cap, like I said myself I wouldf have liked it if they had made a nod to this type of thinking, by Tony saying I made you guys suits then Thanos blows them up as he says it making it useless but atleast it would shut people like you up whining.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 21, 2019 18:46:11 GMT
Because it would be boring. Same reason they won't all have vibranium suits made by Shuri or Pym particles provided by Hank Pym in the next film.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 21, 2019 18:49:09 GMT
But no one else? Spider Man already has super strength, can shoot webs, climb walls, has spider-sense and is super fast. In the comics he's pretty powerful.....so what's the point of giving him a super suit?
I get that he wanted to "protect" Spider Man because he was so young.....but he gives Spider Man a super suit while guys like the Falcon, Capt America, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Winter soldier etc.....have nothing? I mean Falcon has his wings but nothing else.......why not give him a full on super suit? Capt A is the peak of human physical ability....but not super human....why not give him a super suit? Black Widow and Hawkeye.......why not give them a super suit? Winter Soldier has.....well.....I guess he's got that robot arm......but why not give him a super suit?
That's one of my main problems with the MCU. Iron Man has all kinds of "iron droids" as seen in other movies. He could just field his own team made up of Iron Men.
Why would the Avengers need someone like Hawkeye or Black Widow when Iron Man could just call in a squad of Iron Man robots? And why would he give EVEN MORE power to Spider Man but not the weakest members of the team?
You mean, the fugitives?
And Bucky killed his parents, Tony's not giving him anything.
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