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Post by merh on Jul 7, 2019 4:29:41 GMT
Spiderman has always been a VERY human hero. Actually, that's part of Marvel. It hurts. Its not all sunshine & save the day. So yeah, there are the straightforward wins & there are the wins that hurt. He could have stopped that guy who ended up killing Uncle Ben. That was a mistake. That is Peter Parker. Very human. But h was still capable of heroic acts. The idea was not that he always failed--thus the Spider-man Annual #1 story.
That's what I said. Even though he messed up here & there, he ultimately triumphed. But it often hurt. He's a very human hero.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 7, 2019 4:30:39 GMT
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Post by merh on Jul 7, 2019 4:39:48 GMT
Fury would have checked Beck out 7 ways from Sunday. He doesnt trust anyone, remember? Fury never did a background check on Captain Marvel. Just took her word for everything. Even after she blasted a hole in the restaurant for no reason at all. ... Was he ANYBODY to speak of at that time? Was it 6 yrs in for him? It was BEFORE his trust issues as well, wasn't it? He was pretty much line staff. Son of Coul was brand spanking new.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 7, 2019 6:23:24 GMT
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Post by ShrunkenHeadonKnightBus on Jul 7, 2019 17:07:05 GMT
Fury didn’t exactly trust Danvers right away, considering he paged for backup when they were looking into Project Pegasus. Her coming back for him probably went a long way for her earning his trust.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 0:24:01 GMT
Just got back from seeing Far From Home. It was a damn fun movie. Tom Holland just captures both Peter Parker and Spider-Man perfectly. I enjoyed the chemistry with him and Zendaya. Jake Gyllenhaal was amazing as well. Two MCU Spider-Man movies in and they managed to have back to back great villains. The effects worked far better than I ever expected.
One question though for those that saw Endgame. What happened to Vision? He was in the in memoriam at the beginning. I knew the spoilers about Tony, Cap, and Widow but never heard anything in regards to Vision.
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Post by merh on Jul 10, 2019 1:05:00 GMT
Just got back from seeing Far From Home. It was a damn fun movie. Tom Holland just captures both Peter Parker and Spider-Man perfectly. I enjoyed the chemistry with him and Zendaya. Jake Gyllenhaal was amazing as well. Two MCU Spider-Man movies in and they managed to have back to back great villains. The effects worked far better than I ever expected. One question though for those that saw Endgame. What happened to Vision? He was in the in memoriam at the beginning. I knew the spoilers about Tony, Cap, and Widow but never heard anything in regards to Vision. Note it was rather grainy so I figured it was from Ultron or the airport in Civil War. No one but Hawkeye saw Widow die so I would say it was known he was dusted/killed. Announced
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 1:08:41 GMT
Just got back from seeing Far From Home. It was a damn fun movie. Tom Holland just captures both Peter Parker and Spider-Man perfectly. I enjoyed the chemistry with him and Zendaya. Jake Gyllenhaal was amazing as well. Two MCU Spider-Man movies in and they managed to have back to back great villains. The effects worked far better than I ever expected. One question though for those that saw Endgame. What happened to Vision? He was in the in memoriam at the beginning. I knew the spoilers about Tony, Cap, and Widow but never heard anything in regards to Vision. Note it was rather grainy so I figured it was from Ultron or the airport in Civil War. No one but Hawkeye saw Widow die so I would say it was known he was dusted/killed. Announced Did he not come back like everybody else?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 10, 2019 1:24:39 GMT
Note it was rather grainy so I figured it was from Ultron or the airport in Civil War. No one but Hawkeye saw Widow die so I would say it was known he was dusted/killed. Announced Did he not come back like everybody else? Vision died when Thanos ripped the Mind stone out of his head in Infinity War.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 1:27:40 GMT
Did he not come back like everybody else? Vision died when Thanos ripped the Mind stone out of his head in Infinity War. Ok, so they just didn't bring him back like they did with Loki and Gamora?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 10, 2019 1:30:53 GMT
Vision died when Thanos ripped the Mind stone out of his head in Infinity War. Ok, so they just didn't bring him back like they did with Loki and Gamora? Don't know. Maybe the actor was too busy to film Endgame.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 1:41:54 GMT
Ok, so they just didn't bring him back like they did with Loki and Gamora? Don't know. Maybe the actor was too busy to film Endgame. Good to know. Thanks for the response.
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Post by scabab on Jul 10, 2019 23:52:38 GMT
You know I was surprised they killed Mysterio off.
Homecoming had Vulture, who remains alive. A (awful) Shocker who remains alive. Mac Gargan was in there as well.
They could have kept Mysterio alive and they'd have had a good four villains towards a Sinister Six.
They could introduce another one or two other villains in Spider-Man 3 like Kraven and then by Spider-Man 4 we could have had the Sinister Six.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 0:20:04 GMT
You know I was surprised they killed Mysterio off. Homecoming had Vulture, who remains alive. A (awful) Shocker who remains alive. Mac Gargan was in there as well. They could have kept Mysterio alive and they'd have had a good four villains towards a Sinister Six. They could introduce another one or two other villains in Spider-Man 3 like Kraven and then by Spider-Man 4 we could have had the Sinister Six. I'm not 100% sure he's dead. I mean given all the illusions and everything I'm sure they can figure out a way to bring him back having faked his death. That said I think we'll get Kraven and maybe Chameleon or something in Spider-Man 3. Then we'll be introduced to Norman in Spider-Man 4 as he brings together the Sinister Six or something.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 11, 2019 14:37:13 GMT
I'm not in a big hurry to get to the sinister six. I prefer solo superhero movies to be 1 on 1 affairs. I would rather see Spidey team up with another hero to take on 2 or maybe 3 villains at once.
The only time a really want to see a big villain team up is in an Avengers movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 23:05:18 GMT
I can't believe Nick Skrull was a Fury!
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Post by merh on Jul 12, 2019 8:21:32 GMT
Note it was rather grainy so I figured it was from Ultron or the airport in Civil War. No one but Hawkeye saw Widow die so I would say it was known he was dusted/killed. Announced Did he not come back like everybody else? The only people who came back were the dusted. People like most of the Asgardians like Loki & Heimdall who were killed before the dusting stayed dead. Vision was connected to one of the stones. Shuri was disconnecting him from it, but failed to complete her work because they lacked enough time. She saw they could safely remove it. Stark & Banner failed to see they could & should remove it from Vision. Had someone taken Vision to Wakanda earlier when they realized he had one of the stones, it could have been safely removed from his operating system. So no bringing Vision back. Scarlet Witch dusted so yeah, she's back. The only workaround will be if somewhere in Stark's computers there is a backup which would allow a restore as with any computer system. Supergirl slightly visited this this last season. Brainiac has been advancing, learning, changing. He was damaged at one point which rebooted him to his original workings whoch meant he did the logical thing which might mean some of those he had come to know as friends were placed in danger because logic. The story allowed for him to regain the lost emotions he had developed in his time living amongst humans. So if Stark had the original program backed up we could see Vision as he was when he first came to life. Or if Vision had the sense to back himself up, if there were sufficient space in Stark's computers, then his consciousness could live on. Or if Shuri backed him up before starting to work on him. Then they would just have to remake his body But his existence, his memory, would not remember anything that happened after his restore point was created.
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Post by merh on Jul 12, 2019 8:26:26 GMT
You know I was surprised they killed Mysterio off. Homecoming had Vulture, who remains alive. A (awful) Shocker who remains alive. Mac Gargan was in there as well. They could have kept Mysterio alive and they'd have had a good four villains towards a Sinister Six. They could introduce another one or two other villains in Spider-Man 3 like Kraven and then by Spider-Man 4 we could have had the Sinister Six. We know there is a multiverse so they can always bring him back This Mysterio is dead. Any of his crew could take up the identity since he was illusion
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 14, 2019 3:57:52 GMT
B+
+ - The cast proved they were the right casting choices. Solid energy & performances from all the kids, & even the teachers. Martin Starr ftw. - Mysterio & his villainous plot was a good, less chaotic, choice to follow the impossible of Thanos' double bill. - Peter Parker as Tony Stark protégé angle was fine, again, yet that needs to stop before it undermines Spider-Man's role & capabilities. They'd better break free from all the Iron Man stuff though before they get fully anchored in the past. - While I was hoping for a much more emotionally dramatic bridge from IW & EG's events, I guess it's just as well to start a bit from scratch again. The first half of the film I was questioning that stance, with ppl nearly half joking about the whole vanishing. They did manage to come around & get more serious about what Spider-Man will mean going forward. - J.K. Simmons is possibly the best 'get' for the MCU to date. Talk about meta, re-casting the same actor for the same character for an entirely new cinematic universe. That's gotta be a historical first yes?
- - Once again I felt bait & switched by a more stoic MCU Spider-Man teaser than actual movie. Admittedly, I had a strong bias of wanting to see what they'd deliver immediately post-Endgame, more than any interest in Spider-Man himself. Nick Fury along for the lols instead of actually delivering gravitas. Same thing they did to me for HC when they simply had Iron Man appearing as an avatar suit. - Alas, somehow, Far From Home felt even more juvenile than even Homecoming. Like HC, I'll likely never watch it ever again. Hopefully, the next installment shows the kids aged a bit more - if Holland can last until he's able to be portrayed as an adult (nearly like Harry Potter), it'll have paid off.
It was Sony btw who pushed for this movie right on the heels of EG, or more specifically, July 2019 no matter what the MCU did with Avengers. Of course, it's no secret to anyone with a pulse that Spider-Man wasn't going to remain vanished let alone dead from IW/EG.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 15, 2019 12:44:57 GMT
Far From Home was fun on the surface but ultimately forgettable. The villain had a generic motivation and no character depth, even if building him and his cohorts into the fabric of the MCU over the years was inspired writing. Talos being Fury made Fury look less stupid than he had all film...until you consider how ridiculous it is for Fury to leave the fate of the world in Talos's hands. Now Fury is chilling out in space while underlings protect the Earth in his absence? I don't like how Fury has become a joke since Captain Marvel.
My biggest issue with Far From Home is that Peter being outed as Spider-Man effectively ruins the character. So much for the in-over-his-head teenager, living two lives and feeling out of place in both of them. Instead he'll just be the next Iron Man. Genius inventor with endless resources at his disposal. Honestly as an adult I prefer Iron Man stories to goofy teenage antics, but I appreciated the contrast between the two characters. Not every hero needs to be a government operative or independently wealthy with a corporation's worth of unbeatable tech at their disposal.
I didn't hate FFH, but I don't know how many times I'll revisit this film in the future.
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