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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 15, 2019 15:32:03 GMT
The villain had a generic motivation and no character depth Mysterio is just another disgruntled former Stark employee who became "evil" simply because he got screwed by Tony Stark. Tony Stark sure was an asshole of a boss. Talos being Fury made Fury look less stupid than he had all film...until you consider how ridiculous it is for Fury to leave the fate of the world in Talos's hands. Now Fury is chilling out in space while underlings protect the Earth in his absence? I don't like how Fury has become a joke since Captain Marvel. Yep, Fury has turned into a joke since Captain Marvel. 1st, getting his eye scratched out by cat. Now, turning over command of a covert agency with highly-advanced weapons to a stupid shapeshifting alien who's willing to put civilian lives (including many minors) in danger while Fury goes off on vacation. My biggest issue with Far From Home is that Peter being outed as Spider-Man effectively ruins the character. he'll just be the next Iron Man. Genius inventor with endless resources at his disposal. Honestly as an adult I prefer Iron Man stories to goofy teenage antics, but I appreciated the contrast between the two characters. Not every hero needs to be a government operative or independently wealthy with a corporation's worth of unbeatable tech at their disposal. That's what I've been saying since Homecoming. Homecoming and Far From Home are the 2 worst live-action Spider-Man movies ever made. MCU Spider-Man is basically just War Machine 2.0, using AI suits built by Stark technology. It would be as bad as a Superman movie where Superman used Batarangs and Bat grenades to fight villains or a Wonder Woman movie where Wonder Woman used a Green Lantern ring to fight villains.
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Post by dazz on Jul 15, 2019 15:51:58 GMT
The villain had a generic motivation and no character depth Mysterio is just another disgruntled former Stark employee who became "evil" simply because he got screwed by Tony Stark. Tony Stark sure was an asshole of a boss. Literally never happened in any other Iron Man movie everr, IM 1 has Obediah who is Tony's business partner who is engaging in illegal arms deals and tries to have Tony killed so he can take over the company entirely, IM2 has Ivan Vanko who is the son of Howards old partner who sold their Arc Reactor designs on the black market illegally and Howard had him deported due to that, IM 3 has Aldrich Killian who is a rival tech mogul who has been nursing a grudge against Tony for blowing him off at a part 13-14 years earlier.
Even Vulture isn't a former employee he's an idiot who poured all his money into a clean up company for superhero battles without having a back up or apparently making sure someone else like Stark were going to fund such an operation partnered with the government, who then stole and sold alien weapons and tech on the black market for the better half of a decade, instead of you know doing it just enough to get back the money he would have lost and then stop.
None of these are the same thing, again you word things so poorly, "Mysterio is yet another antagonist/terrorist created or fuelled in some way by their hatred for a Stark, those Starks sure were dicks if they drove so many people to such extreme actions." Is a more accurate attempt to try when you troll, you buffoon.
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Post by dazz on Jul 15, 2019 16:03:04 GMT
The villain had a generic motivation and no character depth Mysterio is just another disgruntled former Stark employee who became "evil" simply because he got screwed by Tony Stark. Tony Stark sure was an asshole of a boss.
Also how did you miss this other attempt at trolling? jesus Christ man, "The MCU once again copying DC, billionaire superhero employs genius inventor who creates game breaking technology, but said employee is then fired for being unstable, that employee then becomes a supervillain using the latest tech he created whilst working for previous employer to usurp and destroy said former boss's legacy and take his place, no I am not talking about Far From Home, I am talking Batman Forever, Marvel is so unoriginal".
Although this would beg the question was Batman an arsehole boss also?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:14:49 GMT
Did he not come back like everybody else? The only people who came back were the dusted. People like most of the Asgardians like Loki & Heimdall who were killed before the dusting stayed dead. Vision was connected to one of the stones. Shuri was disconnecting him from it, but failed to complete her work because they lacked enough time. She saw they could safely remove it. Stark & Banner failed to see they could & should remove it from Vision. Had someone taken Vision to Wakanda earlier when they realized he had one of the stones, it could have been safely removed from his operating system. So no bringing Vision back. Scarlet Witch dusted so yeah, she's back. The only workaround will be if somewhere in Stark's computers there is a backup which would allow a restore as with any computer system. Supergirl slightly visited this this last season. Brainiac has been advancing, learning, changing. He was damaged at one point which rebooted him to his original workings whoch meant he did the logical thing which might mean some of those he had come to know as friends were placed in danger because logic. The story allowed for him to regain the lost emotions he had developed in his time living amongst humans. So if Stark had the original program backed up we could see Vision as he was when he first came to life. Or if Vision had the sense to back himself up, if there were sufficient space in Stark's computers, then his consciousness could live on. Or if Shuri backed him up before starting to work on him. Then they would just have to remake his body But his existence, his memory, would not remember anything that happened after his restore point was created. But Loki and Gamora both came back despite not being dusted. Its past versions of themselves or something. So for whatever reason they didnt do the same with Vision? I dont mind it as Vision sucked but I'm curious as to why.
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Post by dazz on Jul 15, 2019 22:31:17 GMT
The only people who came back were the dusted. People like most of the Asgardians like Loki & Heimdall who were killed before the dusting stayed dead. Vision was connected to one of the stones. Shuri was disconnecting him from it, but failed to complete her work because they lacked enough time. She saw they could safely remove it. Stark & Banner failed to see they could & should remove it from Vision. Had someone taken Vision to Wakanda earlier when they realized he had one of the stones, it could have been safely removed from his operating system. So no bringing Vision back. Scarlet Witch dusted so yeah, she's back. The only workaround will be if somewhere in Stark's computers there is a backup which would allow a restore as with any computer system. Supergirl slightly visited this this last season. Brainiac has been advancing, learning, changing. He was damaged at one point which rebooted him to his original workings whoch meant he did the logical thing which might mean some of those he had come to know as friends were placed in danger because logic. The story allowed for him to regain the lost emotions he had developed in his time living amongst humans. So if Stark had the original program backed up we could see Vision as he was when he first came to life. Or if Vision had the sense to back himself up, if there were sufficient space in Stark's computers, then his consciousness could live on. Or if Shuri backed him up before starting to work on him. Then they would just have to remake his body But his existence, his memory, would not remember anything that happened after his restore point was created. But Loki and Gamora both came back despite not being dusted. Its past versions of themselves or something. So for whatever reason they didnt do the same with Vision? I dont mind it as Vision sucked but I'm curious as to why. Loki didn't come back, from what I gather is that the Loki that escaped may be the Loki in the upcoming TV show but he's Loki in an alternative timeline, possible the same alternative timeline as new Gamora is from to get around the Thanos of it all, he's not back like Gamora is but he exists in a way to justify the show, as for Vision my guess him coming back or maybe not coming back depends on how they go with things is going to be dealt with in the Wanda & Vision TV show, why waste what could be the basis of an entire show for a 30 second moment in a movie that didn't need that?
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Post by damngumby on Jul 15, 2019 23:15:34 GMT
My biggest issue with Far From Home is that Peter being outed as Spider-Man effectively ruins the character. So much for the in-over-his-head teenager, living two lives and feeling out of place in both of them. We've seen that rendition of Spiderman. Secret identities no longer work in today's day and age. The MCU understands that. DC still has Superman fooling everyone by wearing glasses. How stupid is that? Spiderman must change with the times or become irrelevant, like his DC counterparts.
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Post by raiderjedi on Jul 16, 2019 1:03:02 GMT
And Wonder Woman... puts her hair up, and doesn't wear an armored bustier? Presto! Its Diana Prince.
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Post by scabab on Jul 16, 2019 2:29:32 GMT
I don't suppose we need to keep up the spoilers at this point do we? It's been out two weeks now.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 16, 2019 11:58:05 GMT
My biggest issue with Far From Home is that Peter being outed as Spider-Man effectively ruins the character. So much for the in-over-his-head teenager, living two lives and feeling out of place in both of them. We've seen that rendition of Spiderman. Secret identities no longer work in today's day and age. The MCU understands that. DC still has Superman fooling everyone by wearing glasses. How stupid is that? Spiderman must change with the times or become irrelevant, like his DC counterparts. I don't disagree with any of this, I just thought it was fun to have at least one character dealing with the problem. As FFH points out though, the people close to Peter would have to be total morons not to figure it out. The MCU Spider-Man is now radically different from the comics, but that doesn't mean he can't still be fun. I'll miss the kid, but he had to grow up sooner or later I suppose.
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