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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2019 10:17:51 GMT
Is it necessary in religion? I think it is. I like to watch movies about gladiators. And my life has been an exercise in humiliation. I have a hundred little reminders every day.
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Post by phludowin on Jun 30, 2019 10:21:25 GMT
I guess it depends on the religion. I don't know if humiliation is a part of Wicca or Unitarian Universalism.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 10:21:45 GMT
No.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2019 10:25:51 GMT
I guess it depends on the religion. I don't know if humiliation is a part of Wicca or Unitarian Universalism. It's a bit humiliating to realize that you're not the greatest thing the Universe ever produced, and then you have to go seeking your place in the Universe.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2019 10:28:30 GMT
I was like you once, but then something amazing happened. I grew up. I matured. I started living in the world as it is instead of the world as how I expected it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 10:34:21 GMT
I was like you once, but then something amazing happened. I grew up. I matured. I started living in the world as it is instead of the world as how I expected it to be. Do explain why you think humiliation in religion is necessary and mature? I'm too old to be humiliated by anything I do or am... I cast aside personal pride a long time ago. I'm just me... other people can like it or lump it, makes no odds to me.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2019 10:38:11 GMT
I was like you once, but then something amazing happened. I grew up. I matured. I started living in the world as it is instead of the world as how I expected it to be. Do explain why you think humiliation in religion is necessary and mature? I'm too old to be humiliated by anything I do or am... I cast aside personal pride a long time ago. The road to hell is wide and easy. Any slob could do it. The road to heaven requires a little more, including (but not limited to) humiliation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 10:41:51 GMT
Do explain why you think humiliation in religion is necessary and mature? I'm too old to be humiliated by anything I do or am... I cast aside personal pride a long time ago. The road to hell is wide and easy. Any slob could do it. The road to heaven requires a little more, including (but not limited to) humiliation. Why do you feel the psychological need to be humiliated yourself? What do you think you are getting from being humiliated and belittled? Sounds like you have a latent masochistic tendency you wish/need to fulfill.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 11:07:12 GMT
The road to hell is wide and easy. Any slob could do it. The road to heaven requires a little more, including (but not limited to) humiliation. Why do you feel the psychological need to be humiliated yourself? What do you think you are getting from being humiliated and belittled? Sounds like you have a latent masochistic tendency you wish/need to fulfill. You carry on down your road to Heaven through humiliation... I don't understand it, but that's yours to work out, not mine. I will keep with my way of regular prayer, sincerely attending Catholic Mass several times a week, and following Christ's example of trying to live as compassionately and kindly as I can, to all God's creatures. If when my time comes I am turned away from Heaven because I didn't feel humiliated, so be it. I live my way because I feel it is right and just, not to get to Heaven. I don't follow Christ for fear of Hell, nor lust for Heaven.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 11:14:40 GMT
You have some serious issues erj, if you feel humiliation should be an aspect of your beliefs. Or on a deeper level, is it that you like to see other be humiliated? It's all kinds of messed up.
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Post by kls on Jun 30, 2019 11:51:23 GMT
I think there is an aspect of being humble. But humiliation? Doesn't need to rise to that level.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 30, 2019 12:15:29 GMT
Humility isn't even an aspect of humiliation.
I've never been humiliated by my religion so I may need to check my rulebook.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 30, 2019 12:34:23 GMT
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Post by phludowin on Jun 30, 2019 13:54:28 GMT
I guess it depends on the religion. I don't know if humiliation is a part of Wicca or Unitarian Universalism. It's a bit humiliating to realize that you're not the greatest thing the Universe ever produced, and then you have to go seeking your place in the Universe. Is it? If the message of naturalistic religions is: "The Universe is a great and wonderful place, and you are part of it", I fail to see how this is humiliating.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2019 13:56:51 GMT
Humility isn't even an aspect of humiliation. I've never been humiliated by my religion . Maybe you need to get out more.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 30, 2019 14:00:06 GMT
Humility isn't even an aspect of humiliation. I've never been humiliated by my religion . Maybe you need to get out more. Why? So I can be humiliated outside my religion?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 30, 2019 14:06:22 GMT
Maybe you need to get out more. Why? So I can be humiliated outside my religion? Humiliation is good for the soul, apparently. www.meaningfullife.com/mlc-tv/humiliation/ Also, personally thinking, I value what I value even more if it can withstand the rough treatment by others.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2019 15:31:40 GMT
You have some serious issues erj, if you feel humiliation should be an aspect of your beliefs. Or on a deeper level, is it that you like to see other be humiliated? No, I don't like to see others humiliated, but they are not going to make the changes they need to make as long as they are pleased with themselves. And they are going to be pleased with themselves until they are humiliated. So for their own good they need to be humiliated. They need it. You need it too.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 30, 2019 15:34:19 GMT
It's a bit humiliating to realize that you're not the greatest thing the Universe ever produced, and then you have to go seeking your place in the Universe. Is it? If the message of naturalistic religions is: "The Universe is a great and wonderful place, and you are part of it", I fail to see how this is humiliating. Of the realms that humans are capable of existing in, this is one of the lowest. You can decorate it all you want, but it's still a prison cell.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 1, 2019 0:12:15 GMT
Why? So I can be humiliated outside my religion? Humiliation is good for the soul, apparently. www.meaningfullife.com/mlc-tv/humiliation/ Also, personally thinking, I value what I value even more if it can withstand the rough treatment by others. Huliliation is good if one is haughty or needs to be taken down a peg or two. As a resting state it seems like a silly thing to expect.
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