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Post by Vits on Jul 3, 2019 20:38:39 GMT
I was relieved to read that ROPE was going to be only 80 minutes long because, a few days earlier, I had seen an almost 2-hour-long stage production. Unfortunately, the plot structure has the same problems. You see, 2 students invite people over for dinner as a way to feel superior ("We'll have the body of the person we murdered hidden very near and they won't even notice"). There are casual conversations to show a normal dinner. This should be building up suspense for a confrontation, which should be the main plot. The former ends up being a lot longer than the latter. That creates pacing issues, and it all leads up to a bland ending. I will give the movie credit for create suspense from time to time just by having characters gazing. A big stage-to-screen change is that the students' professor isn't pessimistic. Alfred Hitchcock wanted the movie to be filmed in 1 continuous shot, but the cameras had a time limit. He filmed a series of long takes and he had objects blocking the screen to hide the transition. Did people back then really not notice? It wasn't quick or subtle. It's not like one has to be a film expert to notice that the entire screen is pitch black. I'm not trying to diminish the merit of continuous shots though. 5/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 21:18:35 GMT
Heh, I made fun of the obvious cuts in a film class project.
Nevertheless, one of my favorite Hitchcock movies.
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Post by ck100 on Jul 3, 2019 21:22:49 GMT
Feels like the film is more known for its gimmick than the story/plot/characters.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 3, 2019 23:32:57 GMT
7/10.
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Post by alpha128 on Sept 10, 2022 17:10:44 GMT
I recently watched this film for the first time, and I think a 7/10 rating is about right. I noticed the first "hidden" cut, but got so caught in the story I stopped noticing them, and only learned about the continuous shot gimmick after reading up on the film afterward. One big plot hole is that the smell of the body didn't give them away. Although decomposition doesn't begin immediately, a person loses control of their bladder and bowels upon death. The aroma should have been very noticeable. Maybe it was a cedar chest!  Joan Chandler was a real looker. It's a shame she didn't have a bigger filmography.  In conclusion, a solid thriller and great new material for the IMDB v2.1 Movie Quotes board. Here's an updated list of Hitchcock quote threads: Alfred Hitchcock Movie Quote Threads | Subject | Movie Title | Created By | Created On |
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Rope: The Cord-o'-might Maneuver
| Rope (1948) | alpha128 | Sep 9, 2022 20:15 |
The Trouble with the Birds
| The Birds (1963) | alpha128 | Jun 18, 2022 16:24 |
Frenzy: Spectre of the Necktie
| Frenzy (1972) | alpha128 | Apr 16, 2022 16:15 |
Strangers on a Trek
| Strangers on a Train (1951) | kolchak92 | Oct 2, 2021 20:36 |
Uhura
| Rebecca (1940) | PaulsLaugh | Aug 7, 2021 4:57 |
Vertigo: Off Balance of Terror
| Vertigo (1958) | alpha128 | Jul 31, 2021 12:11 |
The Tribble with Harry
| The Trouble with Harry (1955) | Catman | Mar 27, 2021 8:48 |
Rear Viewport
| Rear Window (1954) | Catman | Jan 8, 2021 13:33 |
Dial M for Mugato
| Dial M for Murder (1954) | alpha128 | Dec 27, 2020 14:43 |
Psycho-tricorder
| Psycho (1960) | alpha128 | Jun 19, 2020 18:47 |
Helm, lay in a new course. North by Northwest.
| North by Northwest (1959) | alpha128 | May 29, 2020 18:30 |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2022 17:11:33 GMT
Feels like the film is more known for its gimmick than the story/plot/characters. Pretty much. But it’s still interesting. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 10, 2022 17:56:48 GMT
I love it, its stage play atmosphere is most welcome, long camera shots or not.
I think what I most enjoy is I'd say every conversation we're in is entertaining/fascinating/thought provoking. There's no wasted moments for me.
Having such a fast paced, swiftly moving film in essentially 2 rooms is cool too.
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Post by James on Sept 10, 2022 19:05:55 GMT
I recently watched this film for the first time, and I think a 7/10 rating is about right. I noticed the first "hidden" cut, but got so caught in the story I stopped noticing them, and only learned about the continuous shot gimmick after reading up on the film afterward. One big plot hole is that the smell of the body didn't give them away. Although decomposition doesn't begin immediately, a person loses control of their bladder and bowels upon death. The aroma should have been very noticeable. Maybe it was a cedar chest! Joan Chandler was a real looker. It's a shame she didn't have a bigger filmography. In conclusion, a solid thriller and great new material for the IMDB v2.1 Movie Quotes board. Here's an updated list of Hitchcock quote threads: Alfred Hitchcock Movie Quote Threads | Subject | Movie Title | Created By | Created On |
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Rope: The Cord-o'-might Maneuver
| Rope (1948) | alpha128 | Sep 9, 2022 20:15 |
The Trouble with the Birds
| The Birds (1963) | alpha128 | Jun 18, 2022 16:24 |
Frenzy: Spectre of the Necktie
| Frenzy (1972) | alpha128 | Apr 16, 2022 16:15 |
Strangers on a Trek
| Strangers on a Train (1951) | kolchak92 | Oct 2, 2021 20:36 |
Uhura
| Rebecca (1940) | PaulsLaugh | Aug 7, 2021 4:57 |
Vertigo: Off Balance of Terror
| Vertigo (1958) | alpha128 | Jul 31, 2021 12:11 |
The Tribble with Harry
| The Trouble with Harry (1955) | Catman | Mar 27, 2021 8:48 |
Rear Viewport
| Rear Window (1954) | Catman | Jan 8, 2021 13:33 |
Dial M for Mugato
| Dial M for Murder (1954) | alpha128 | Dec 27, 2020 14:43 |
Psycho-tricorder
| Psycho (1960) | alpha128 | Jun 19, 2020 18:47 |
Helm, lay in a new course. North by Northwest.
| North by Northwest (1959) | alpha128 | May 29, 2020 18:30 |
You bring up a good point about the body decomposing and there was no smell that anyone had noticed, although I assume that perhaps the box contained the stench.  As others have stated, I like the stage play style of filmmaking, but despite that being arguably more memorable than the characters or story, I like the lead duo and both characters are interesting to watch and the movie gets you anxious when details start coming out about the missing guest and it's a suspenseful ride from there..
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Post by phantomparticle on Sept 10, 2022 19:57:21 GMT
Haven't seen the movie in quite a while, but I distinctly remember a traditional cut when Janet arrives at the party.
I looked up the IMDB trivia page and found a few more:
Not on my favorite Hitchcock list. Interesting at first; it gets tiring with each subsequent viewing.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Sept 10, 2022 22:25:59 GMT
Alfred Hitchcock wanted the movie to be filmed in 1 continuous shot, but the cameras had a time limit. He filmed a series of long takes and he had objects blocking the screen to hide the transition. Did people back then really not notice? It wasn't quick or subtle. It's not like one has to be a film expert to notice that the entire screen is pitch black. People "back then" went to the movies to see a movie. The average film goer did not analyze or discuss movies like is done now. Only people "into" the technical aspect of films or in film school would be aware of details like "continuous shots". What Hitchcock "wanted" is a thing known retrospectively.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Sept 10, 2022 22:36:21 GMT
Not on my favorite Hitchcock list. Interesting at first; it gets tiring with each subsequent viewing. yep ... it also has the worst Hitchcock "cameo" ... it's a neon sign in the shape of his profile.  and / or it's a distance shot of him taken from the balcony. Both are mentioned in the "debates"
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Post by vegalyra on Sept 11, 2022 13:18:38 GMT
I’ve always enjoyed this one. I think I really like the set design quite a bit. The New York skyline darkens as the day progresses. Guess you a nice sense of time. Jimmy Stewart is excellent as always.
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Post by Archelaus on Sept 13, 2022 0:58:24 GMT
I've seen it and I quite liked it. It's a play that was based on the infamous Leopold and Loeb murder, in which two wealthy college students murder a young man and hide the body to prove their intellectual prowess at staging the perfect crime. The "long take" gimmick was just that, a gimmick, and there's no real reason why it had to be that way. I did think Stewart's performance, especially at the end, was one of his best.
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