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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 2:51:12 GMT
I was curious. Not going to lie I have thought about this before but never really shared it.
How would you all adapt Magneto into today's MCU? Try not to use any multiverse thing where he leaps from the Holocaust into today's world. That may be the best way to go but for the sake of this thread simply go by today's world and this is the only world and timeline that we're in.
Would you be alright with casting Magneto as somebody who suffered through the Rwanda Genocide? You could then cast an actor in his 30's or so (yes he'd be black in this scenario) and he could play the role for a long run like Fassbender kind of did but without the stupid decade hopping without aging. Imagine that they were able to cast somebody like Mahershala Ali as Magneto. A fucking AMAZING actor. Would you be okay with that or does it have to be his original origins? I know that's a HUGE deal to his character but I'm just asking how to adapt it to today's world. I think you'd need to update his origins a bit and this one was the first to come to mind.
I know it's kind of a heavy question but PLEASE try and be civil and just discuss the topic without insults. I just want to hear some alternatives people would suggest to adapting him into today's MCU for let's say a 2023 MCU X-Men movie.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 4, 2019 3:28:28 GMT
Human Species is pretty garbage species. We've have had a few Genocides to pick from in the last 70 years.
Genocides from 1951 to Present Day.
Australia 1900–1969
Zanzibar
Algeria
Cambodia 1975-1979
Guatemala 1981–1983
Bangladesh Liberation War Genocide of 1971
Burundi 1972 and 1993
North Korea
Equatorial Guinea
Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66
West New Guinea/West Papua
East Timor
Bangladesh
Biharis
Indigenous Chakmas
Argentina
Ethiopia
Baathist Iraq
Genocide of Kurds
Marsh Arabs
People's Republic of China Tibet
Brazil
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Hutus
Somalia 1988–1991 Isaaq genocide
Somalia 2007 Bantu attacks
Chechnya
Sri Lanka
Myanmar
ISIL/Yemen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 3:46:25 GMT
Human Species is pretty garbage species. We've have had a few Genocides to pick from in the last 70 years. Genocides from 1951 to Present Day. Australia 1900–1969 Zanzibar Algeria Cambodia 1975-1979 Guatemala 1981–1983 Bangladesh Liberation War Genocide of 1971 Burundi 1972 and 1993 North Korea Equatorial Guinea Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66 West New Guinea/West Papua East Timor Bangladesh Biharis Indigenous Chakmas Argentina Ethiopia Baathist Iraq Genocide of Kurds Marsh Arabs People's Republic of China Tibet Brazil Democratic Republic of the Congo Hutus Somalia 1988–1991 Isaaq genocide Somalia 2007 Bantu attacks Chechnya Sri Lanka Myanmar ISIL/Yemen Okay, having stated this. How would you adapt him today?
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 4, 2019 4:11:35 GMT
Depends on how they introduce mutants. We would want it to be a recent thing say in the last 40 years or so otherwise where have they been how have they hidden. Lets say it was really rare for the X gene to activate in history maybe 1 a century or so, but more and more recently. In the 90's you might have 5 or 6 activated mutants. During the Bonsian War in 1992 a young Romani is part of the Ethnic Cleansing/Genocide, Forced Removals, Torture of that War as a child say 10. During that stress his Magento Powers activate. He's able to hide his powers. In 2018, he would be 36, successfully hidden his powers only a few other people know. One of the his Friends Xavier also a hidden mutant who has collected a few other young people and hidden them. Have them Hiding in Europe, but Charles is from Upstate NY with Houses in both. They are working together (since they found each other in the early 00s) when the Snap Happens. Collateral Damage from the Snap, I don't know a pilotless plane, a nuclear power plant is unlucky and all of there experts are snapped know one notices in time causes an explosion. Something causes trauma and the reaction to that trauma by those who are in power reminds him of the Bosnian War Genocide. It finally makes Mags snap part ways with Xaiver and go down a dark path. The Gama Radiation unleashed from 2 snaps on the planet in 5 years triggers the X genes in lots of people. It takes Mags a while to find and recruit his followers say 10 years and in 2025+ (making mags still 43) he rears his ugly head as a Terrorist.
Charles and his rag tag of Students he's collected with a few more since the snap comes out of the Closet as it were and explains what's happened and that the world got more than their people back during the blip but a growing new species.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 4, 2019 4:27:02 GMT
Human Species is pretty garbage species. We've have had a few Genocides to pick from in the last 70 years. Genocides from 1951 to Present Day. Australia 1900–1969 Zanzibar Algeria Cambodia 1975-1979 Guatemala 1981–1983 Bangladesh Liberation War Genocide of 1971 Burundi 1972 and 1993 North Korea Equatorial Guinea Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66 West New Guinea/West Papua East Timor Bangladesh Biharis Indigenous Chakmas Argentina Ethiopia Baathist Iraq Genocide of Kurds Marsh Arabs People's Republic of China Tibet Brazil Democratic Republic of the Congo Hutus Somalia 1988–1991 Isaaq genocide Somalia 2007 Bantu attacks Chechnya Sri Lanka Myanmar ISIL/Yemen Okay, having stated this. How would you adapt him today? Sorry if that came off snide. I was just thinking you wanted the answer to the Genocide in his Past updated in general terms. Not specifics.
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Post by Archelaus on Jul 4, 2019 4:35:29 GMT
Have Magneto be a descendant of Holocaust victims living in eastern Europe. He came of age towards the end of the Cold War, and was nearly killed in the Bosnian War. His X-gene was triggered through exposure to chemical warfare.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 4:35:56 GMT
Okay, having stated this. How would you adapt him today? Sorry if that came off snide. I was just thinking you wanted the answer to the Genocide in his Past updated in general terms. Not specifics. Its cool. Honestly I wasn't aware of a lot of these. I was under the impression that the Rwanda one was one of the most resent which was why it was my choice. I don't remember learning about the one you proposed in your idea in school at all. I did like your proposal a lot btw. Was well thought out, thank you.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 4, 2019 4:40:59 GMT
You could even have Magneto wanting to come out in 2008+ when the world started seeing a lot more enhanced people. As the secrecy of Yobodon Milosevich reign in Bosnian War kept his war crimes unpunished for almost a Decade. Charles the more cautious of the 2 reigns him in for years until the split. And he knows as the world starts to fill up with more and more mutants that it's only time before Magneto Comes out to the World loud and proud.
And yes I'm using the terminology of LGBTQ purposefully. Mutants were always an allegory for second class of citizen Race more so in the 60's. Having the few mutants that were in history hidden so completely as to know one knew they existed lends itself to "In the Closet" type metaphor.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 4, 2019 4:50:33 GMT
I was curious. Not going to lie I have thought about this before but never really shared it. How would you all adapt Magneto into today's MCU? Try not to use any multiverse thing where he leaps from the Holocaust into today's world. That may be the best way to go but for the sake of this thread simply go by today's world and this is the only world and timeline that we're in. Would you be alright with casting Magneto as somebody who suffered through the Rwanda Genocide? You could then cast an actor in his 30's or so (yes he'd be black in this scenario) and he could play the role for a long run like Fassbender kind of did but without the stupid decade hopping without aging. Imagine that they were able to cast somebody like Mahershala Ali as Magneto. A fucking AMAZING actor. Would you be okay with that or does it have to be his original origins? I know that's a HUGE deal to his character but I'm just asking how to adapt it to today's world. I think you'd need to update his origins a bit and this one was the first to come to mind. I know it's kind of a heavy question but PLEASE try and be civil and just discuss the topic without insults. I just want to hear some alternatives people would suggest to adapting him into today's MCU for let's say a 2023 MCU X-Men movie. MCU always caters to the SJWs so they'll probably make Magneto a trans-gender who was persecuted.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 4, 2019 5:00:46 GMT
make him kid bullied in high school for weird accent
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 4, 2019 5:21:35 GMT
I was curious. Not going to lie I have thought about this before but never really shared it. How would you all adapt Magneto into today's MCU? Try not to use any multiverse thing where he leaps from the Holocaust into today's world. That may be the best way to go but for the sake of this thread simply go by today's world and this is the only world and timeline that we're in. Would you be alright with casting Magneto as somebody who suffered through the Rwanda Genocide? You could then cast an actor in his 30's or so (yes he'd be black in this scenario) and he could play the role for a long run like Fassbender kind of did but without the stupid decade hopping without aging. Imagine that they were able to cast somebody like Mahershala Ali as Magneto. A fucking AMAZING actor. Would you be okay with that or does it have to be his original origins? I know that's a HUGE deal to his character but I'm just asking how to adapt it to today's world. I think you'd need to update his origins a bit and this one was the first to come to mind. I know it's kind of a heavy question but PLEASE try and be civil and just discuss the topic without insults. I just want to hear some alternatives people would suggest to adapting him into today's MCU for let's say a 2023 MCU X-Men movie. MCU always caters to the SJWs so they'll probably make Magneto a trans-gender who was persecuted. The SJWisms of the MCU are pretty tame and not very distracting to where you cannot continue watching the stories unfold or feel like you are being programmed to think a certain way compared to the SJW pandering DC does - I'd say you could easily view the last few seasons of Supergirl as leftist propaganda especially this last season where integrated a transgender character played by a trans performer and kept hammering that fact into the viewer's face that it was just so annoying. And have you seen the trailers for Batwoman? Absolutely garbage, and disrespectful to the Batman lore.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 4, 2019 5:31:54 GMT
MCU always caters to the SJWs so they'll probably make Magneto a trans-gender who was persecuted. The SJWisms of the MCU are pretty tame and not very distracting to where you cannot continue watching the stories unfold or feel like you are being programmed to think a certain way compared to the SJW pandering DC does - I'd say you could easily view the last few seasons of Supergirl as leftist propaganda especially this last season where integrated a transgender character played by a trans performer and kept hammering that fact into the viewer's face that it was just so annoying. And have you seen the trailers for Batwoman? Absolutely garbage, and disrespectful to the Batman lore. And then there is this cringeworthy X-Women scene in ‘Dark Phoenix’, but since it’s not an MCU film, DC-Fan praised it as the best comic book film of 2019. |
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Post by poutinep on Jul 4, 2019 5:32:12 GMT
I was curious. Not going to lie I have thought about this before but never really shared it. How would you all adapt Magneto into today's MCU? Try not to use any multiverse thing where he leaps from the Holocaust into today's world. That may be the best way to go but for the sake of this thread simply go by today's world and this is the only world and timeline that we're in. Would you be alright with casting Magneto as somebody who suffered through the Rwanda Genocide? You could then cast an actor in his 30's or so (yes he'd be black in this scenario) and he could play the role for a long run like Fassbender kind of did but without the stupid decade hopping without aging. Imagine that they were able to cast somebody like Mahershala Ali as Magneto. A fucking AMAZING actor. Would you be okay with that or does it have to be his original origins? I know that's a HUGE deal to his character but I'm just asking how to adapt it to today's world. I think you'd need to update his origins a bit and this one was the first to come to mind. I know it's kind of a heavy question but PLEASE try and be civil and just discuss the topic without insults. I just want to hear some alternatives people would suggest to adapting him into today's MCU for let's say a 2023 MCU X-Men movie. MCU always caters to the SJWs so they'll probably make Magneto a trans-gender who was persecuted. eh as long as they don't make him a 50 something Chinese-American software engineer from San Francisco named Kevin Yang or something like that it should be fine
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 4, 2019 17:17:37 GMT
The SJWisms of the MCU are pretty tame and not very distracting to where you cannot continue watching the stories unfold or feel like you are being programmed to think a certain way compared to the SJW pandering DC does - I'd say you could easily view the last few seasons of Supergirl as leftist propaganda especially this last season where integrated a transgender character played by a trans performer and kept hammering that fact into the viewer's face that it was just so annoying. And have you seen the trailers for Batwoman? Absolutely garbage, and disrespectful to the Batman lore. And then there is this cringeworthy X-Women scene in ‘Dark Phoenix’, but since it’s not an MCU film, DC-Fan praised it as the best comic book film of 2019. Pretty much. Also ironic how DC-Fan loves the Supergirl show and claims he does not like Hillary Clinton or the democratic party when there are oh so many obvious references to Clinton losing the election and current democratic concerns presented in the show that are so obvious you'd wonder why bother trying to hide them in a fictional setting and characters.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 4, 2019 18:45:41 GMT
And then there is this cringeworthy X-Women scene in ‘Dark Phoenix’, but since it’s not an MCU film, DC-Fan praised it as the best comic book film of 2019. Pretty much. Also ironic how DC-Fan loves the Supergirl show and claims he does not like Hillary Clinton or the democratic party when there are oh so many obvious references to Clinton losing the election and current democratic concerns presented in the show that are so obvious you'd wonder why bother trying to hide them in a fictional setting and characters. 1. I have a feeling that ‘Batwoman’ might even be worse than ‘Supergirl’ in that regard. Of course, the trailer could be baiting us, but it’s still a horrible first impression. 2. The biggest problem with the X-Women scene is that it comes the f**k out of nowhere and breaks the entire conversation. Oh, and the whole scene itself is actually the least of the film’s problems. You know how much I was disappointed with that film just by looking at the fact that I ended up creating an incredibly silly #PixarChallenge. |
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Post by merh on Jul 4, 2019 20:07:47 GMT
I say Dr.Doom.
They are talking a Doom movie. Dictator of whatever-Latveria or something.
You could tie it to him. Either he did it or he freed the political prisoners in taking power. The FF can already be in existence
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 5, 2019 0:46:12 GMT
Pretty much. Also ironic how DC-Fan loves the Supergirl show and claims he does not like Hillary Clinton or the democratic party when there are oh so many obvious references to Clinton losing the election and current democratic concerns presented in the show that are so obvious you'd wonder why bother trying to hide them in a fictional setting and characters. 1. I have a feeling that ‘Batwoman’ might even be worse than ‘Supergirl’ in that regard. Of course, the trailer could be baiting us, but it’s still a horrible first impression. 2. The biggest problem with the X-Women scene is that it comes the f**k out of nowhere and Breaks the entire conversation. Oh, and the whole scene itself is actually the least of the film’s problems. You know how much I was disappointed with that film just by looking at the fact that I ended up creating an incredibly silly #PixarChallenge. Possibly, would not surprise me if it is worse, not only on a political level but also on a cinematic level - for all the faults Supergirl has, and there are many, Melissa Benoist makes a charismatic lead that seems to want to invite people to watch her show while Ruby Rose is less charismatic and comes across as very cold and unlikeable. Cannot really comment on Dark Phoenix, did not see it in theatres - just not enough interest, and its out of my local cinema.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 5, 2019 2:24:31 GMT
I was curious. Not going to lie I have thought about this before but never really shared it. How would you all adapt Magneto into today's MCU? Try not to use any multiverse thing where he leaps from the Holocaust into today's world. That may be the best way to go but for the sake of this thread simply go by today's world and this is the only world and timeline that we're in. Would you be alright with casting Magneto as somebody who suffered through the Rwanda Genocide? You could then cast an actor in his 30's or so (yes he'd be black in this scenario) and he could play the role for a long run like Fassbender kind of did but without the stupid decade hopping without aging. Imagine that they were able to cast somebody like Mahershala Ali as Magneto. A fucking AMAZING actor. Would you be okay with that or does it have to be his original origins? I know that's a HUGE deal to his character but I'm just asking how to adapt it to today's world. I think you'd need to update his origins a bit and this one was the first to come to mind. I know it's kind of a heavy question but PLEASE try and be civil and just discuss the topic without insults. I just want to hear some alternatives people would suggest to adapting him into today's MCU for let's say a 2023 MCU X-Men movie. MCU always caters to the SJWs so they'll probably make Magneto a trans-gender who was persecuted. And? Why would it be a bad thing to make Magneto Transgender? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 5, 2019 2:28:51 GMT
MCU always caters to the SJWs so they'll probably make Magneto a trans-gender who was persecuted. And? Why would it be a bad thing to make Magneto Transgender? Where did I say it was bad? I didn't say it was good or bad. I'm just answering the original question of how they'll probably adapt Magneto into MCU. They'll probably cast a female to play Magneto.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 5, 2019 5:00:30 GMT
And? Why would it be a bad thing to make Magneto Transgender? Where did I say it was bad? I didn't say it was good or bad. I'm just answering the original question of how they'll probably adapt Magneto into MCU. They'll probably cast a female to play Magneto. Well you sure wrote it in a negative way, also being an SJW does not mean you belong to a particular political party or that if you are trans you are automatically in that circle of people - there are actually trans people as well as gay, bi, etc. people in the country who are not partial to SJWisms or liberal belief systems and actually voted for Donald Trump, there are also democrats who hate PC culture and SJW practices and propaganda in mainstream entertainment and are the furthest thing from Donald Trump lovers.
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