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Post by ChaosMonster on Feb 17, 2017 11:58:47 GMT
My husband and I play bridge with another couple every Wednesday. This other couple says lots of disparaging things about gay people. Today they went over the top. They often talk about gay marriage and how it should not be allowed, this time the husband went on about pedophilia and how 'Almost all gay men are pedophiles'. How does one deal with such people while still trying to keep love in your heart?
Is gay people getting married something that bothers you? If so.... why?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 12:10:20 GMT
My husband and I play bridge with another couple every Wednesday. This other couple says lots of disparaging things about gay people. Today they went over the top. They often talk about gay marriage and how it should not be allowed, this time the husband went on about pedophilia and how 'Almost all gay men are pedophiles'. How does one deal with such people while still trying to keep love in your heart? I would wonder why I was even friends with such bigoted people...Is gay people getting married something that bothers you? No, not in the slightest... prejudice and intolerance bothers me though.
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Post by awhina on Feb 17, 2017 12:15:09 GMT
Not really. However it's not a real marriage any more than when a couple of 4 year old children at a kindergarten or play centre pretend to get married because they attended aunt and uncle's wedding on the weekend.
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Post by ChaosMonster on Feb 17, 2017 12:21:11 GMT
Not really. However it's not a real marriage any more than when a couple of 4 year old children at a kindergarten or play centre pretend to get married because they attended aunt and uncle's wedding on the weekend. But where I live gay married couples get all the same legal rights as regular married couples. The kids in kindergarten who pretend to get married do not get those same legal rights. So it's clearly not the same.
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Post by awhina on Feb 17, 2017 12:51:48 GMT
Not really. However it's not a real marriage any more than when a couple of 4 year old children at a kindergarten or play centre pretend to get married because they attended aunt and uncle's wedding on the weekend. But where I live gay married couples get all the same legal rights as regular married couples. The kids in kindergarten who pretend to get married do not get those same legal rights. So it's clearly not the same. Marriage is more than just a legal entity. It's social, cultural and religious. When I meet a homosexual "married" couple I think of them as if they are the 4 year olds. They are playing. Like the four year olds they will tire of the game. Then it will be another divorce statistic. Sad.
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Post by ChaosMonster on Feb 17, 2017 12:56:32 GMT
But where I live gay married couples get all the same legal rights as regular married couples. The kids in kindergarten who pretend to get married do not get those same legal rights. So it's clearly not the same. Marriage is more than just a legal entity. It's social, cultural and religious. When I meet a homosexual "married" couple I think of them as if they are the 4 year olds. They are playing. Like the four year olds they will tire of the game. Then it will be another divorce statistic. Sad. So you think ALL gay people are like children pretending to be 'normal'? What about strait people who get divorced? Were they just playing at being normal too? You're generalizing all gay people you know. Also, doesn't marriage predate the God of Abraham? Is it possible that religions did not invent marriage?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 17, 2017 13:15:33 GMT
Marriage is more than just a legal entity. It's social, cultural and religious. When I meet a homosexual "married" couple I think of them as if they are the 4 year olds. They are playing. Like the four year olds they will tire of the game. Then it will be another divorce statistic. Sad. So you think ALL gay people are like children pretending to be 'normal'? What about strait people who get divorced? Were they just playing at being normal too? You're generalizing all gay people you know. Also, doesn't marriage predate the God of Abraham? Is it possible that religions did not invent marriage? I think you may be conversing with someone who is well known for bigoted comments. She was well known on the 'iMDB' forums, you'll see.
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Post by ChaosMonster on Feb 17, 2017 13:21:03 GMT
I don't care what others might have posted before on other websites OldSamVimes. I prefer to make up my own mind about people, not just go with what others say.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 17, 2017 13:23:57 GMT
I don't care what others might have posted before on other websites OldSamVimes. I prefer to make up my own mind about people, not just go with what others say. If you don't want to learn from the mistakes of others it's your loss.
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Post by ChaosMonster on Feb 17, 2017 13:42:48 GMT
I don't care what others might have posted before on other websites OldSamVimes. I prefer to make up my own mind about people, not just go with what others say. If you don't want to learn from the mistakes of others it's your loss. I'll make up my own mind about others from direct personal experience, thank you.
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Post by Blue on Feb 17, 2017 13:45:52 GMT
I don't take the prospect of marriage lightly, but one day I hope to marry my partner. I don't really care what other people do with their lives so long as they don't talk about it 24/7. That mostly applies to straight people. I'm so tired of women saying "my husband this, my hubby that". We get it, you're married.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 17, 2017 13:54:06 GMT
I'm fine with anyone getting married to anyone else, regardless of sex/gender, regardless of how many people we're talking about, and regardless of whether we're even talking about humans. I'd be fine with people getting married to their pets or other livestock, objects like toasters--whatever they want.
(And no, I'm not joking that I'm fine with that.)
I don't see why it should matter to anyone else whoever, whatever, and how many of whoever/whatever anyone gets married to.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 17, 2017 13:58:03 GMT
But where I live gay married couples get all the same legal rights as regular married couples. The kids in kindergarten who pretend to get married do not get those same legal rights. So it's clearly not the same. Marriage is more than just a legal entity. It's social, cultural and religious. When I meet a homosexual "married" couple I think of them as if they are the 4 year olds. They are playing. Like the four year olds they will tire of the game. Then it will be another divorce statistic. Sad. Marriage need not be religious. And how are you figuring that gay couples who have been legally married are not socially/culturally married? The legal status is the social/cultural status outside of religions at least. Also, there's nothing wrong with divorce.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 17, 2017 14:13:16 GMT
No, of course not.
I'm not a small minded bigot.
You should dump those people you play cards with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 14:16:46 GMT
Yeah I do care. It is all part of an agenda to degrade and alter the definition of marriage. So no, I do not want them to have the right to marry.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 17, 2017 14:18:42 GMT
Yeah I do care. It is all part of an agenda to degrade and alter the definition of marriage. So no, I do not want them to have the right to marry. I live in Canada, gay marriage has been a fact here for almost 15 years. My marriage to my wife is fine, it has not been degraded in the slightest. A marriage has to be pretty poor if a couple of adults of the same gender getting married can negatively affect it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 14:21:56 GMT
@ oldsamvines That is not what I have heard about Homosexual marriage in Canada. I will also add that the Homo's have been really annoying here in Australia about this and as a result they have pissed a lot of people off. In fact we were supposed to have a plebiscite on this topic this year but as they now fear they will lose this they are trying to push the Govt just to make it legal. So no. Fuck them.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 17, 2017 14:25:34 GMT
Then it will be another divorce statistic. Sad. Even with straight couples, for a very great number of them, marriage is not remotely religious. As for social and cultural, absolutely - but how would that disqualify gay couples?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Feb 17, 2017 14:29:50 GMT
@ oldsamvines That is not what I have heard about Homosexual marriage in Canada. I will also add that the Homo's have been really annoying here in Australia about this and as a result they have pissed a lot of people off. In fact we were supposed to have a plebiscite on this topic this year but as they now fear they will lose this they are trying to push the Govt just to make it legal. So no. Fuck them. It's all good. Not everyone can be a tolerant person. But it's true, you don't hear about gay marriage in Canada because nobody gives a crap. We're not a bunch of sensitive bigots.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 14:32:38 GMT
OldSamVimes - Don't start with the tolerant shit. The Left are the most intolerant bigoted fucktards around. Canada will be lucky to survive your dickhead PM.
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