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Post by progressiveelement on Feb 21, 2017 13:43:27 GMT
My husband and I play bridge with another couple every Wednesday. This other couple says lots of disparaging things about gay people. Today they went over the top. They often talk about gay marriage and how it should not be allowed, this time the husband went on about pedophilia and how 'Almost all gay men are pedophiles'. How does one deal with such people while still trying to keep love in your heart? Is gay people getting married something that bothers you? If so.... why? I have no idea how to play bridge.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 21, 2017 13:46:13 GMT
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 13:46:22 GMT
edward -Elizabeth-Hitler What you mean is that the majority would vote against it. Don't believe that 65% bullshit in favour of immorality, the Left twist and manipulate everything. No, I mean that it's inherently wrong to put a civil rights issue for a minority up for a vote by the majority. The government should be there to protect the rights of every single person. As an example to illustrate the point, mixed race marriage was legalised in all 50 states in the US in 1967 because a court ruled that the already existing Constitution meant that any laws banning it trampled on the rights of citizens. If polls are to be believed, a referendum on the matter wouldn't have passed until Clinton's second term if you can believe it. Before then, the minority of citizens who were having their rights abused by unjust laws would have been subject to the tyranny of the majority voting down granting them equal rights. It doesn't matter whether a referendum would pass or not in Australia, it's inherently morally wrong to put it out for people to vote on. If the politicians weren't so cowardly, they'd do their jobs properly.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 13:47:49 GMT
edward -Elizabeth-Hitler Also we have had very Left Wing Governments down here and they have legislated AGAINST Same Sex Marriage, yet when they lose power they hammer on and on about it using it as a weapon against the more Conservative party they lost to. Could it be that the Left Wing Govt is just using this as a weapon to attack the Govt as well as a carrot to dangle in front of homosexuals? Sorry. A rather complex discussion. I won't be expecting you to form a coherent response. I'll just sit back and wait for your attacks and insults. Sorry, do I know you? I've seen nothing from you so far to indicate why you think you can feel intellectually superior.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 15:06:48 GMT
edward And mixed race relationships are wrong. They should have let the people decide. The Govt shouldn't be sticking their noses in as the Govt is usually wrong. Well lets face it, you haven't said much to prove you are intelligent have you?! Who are you to say that two consenting adults can't get married? Thank you for illustrating exactly why this sort of thing should not be put to the people.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 15:10:55 GMT
edward Decent people don't want that immoral shit, I know you don't understand but bad luck. Thank you for illustrating why this kind of thing shouldn't be left to Governments. What's immoral about it?
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Post by j2 on Feb 21, 2017 15:15:53 GMT
She knows very well what she speaks of and it's her thoughts. Would you suppress that too? Why so much rage I wonder (and yet I have pretty good ideas about it). She knows jack s<>t about what she speaks of and as for suppression, isn't that what you are about? Please do tell, what is the rage all about. You have avoided the other things I have asked of you, so you will likely avoid this too. I take'em as I see'em. You have done little but spray out garbage words against those you dislike. In my view you are trash. I have not suppressed you nor anybody here. Instead, you try to shut awhina up and try to "make" me go away from here (lol). Your words of rage are laid out like excrement right here in your posts. And why is this so? Only because we speak our minds just like anybody else would. You, like the imdb bastards, are sCUM. It is in fact very good to identify.
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Post by j2 on Feb 21, 2017 15:19:27 GMT
A little bit slow there, aren't we (it does come with the territory after all). Anyway, ahem, okay so abstract... Are the numbers 5, 5, 26-28 abstract enough too? Yes, and I'd say they are one of your freaky bible quotes. Is your own slowness a side effect of the anti-psychotics you take? "Bible quotes", whoa we really have a slow one here! A bit on the dim side perhaps?
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Post by islandmur on Feb 21, 2017 15:29:06 GMT
edward I wouldn't expect you to understand immorality or decency you are the grass beneath the cow shit. I would like to understand.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 15:29:17 GMT
edward I wouldn't expect you to understand immorality or decency you are the grass beneath the cow shit. Explain it to me.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 15:37:53 GMT
islandmur & edward - No I won't explain it to you because I can't put it into simple enough language for you to understand. I know what will happen, you are both so close minded and ignorant that you will just attack me for my views. Your side has made it's bed now it can lie in it. I don't have to have circular arguments with hateful immoral creeps like you two. It is immoral, as you don't understand morality you can't hope to understand why it is wrong. You also won't have a hope in hell of understanding why it is bad for society as you are again so hateful and ignorant that you think it is right. Just trolling then I guess. Gotcha.
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Post by j2 on Feb 21, 2017 15:40:49 GMT
Makes two of us. I detest it. But I wouldn't expect justice here. What type of justice were you expecting, you entitled corrupt moron? What You do realize that 2 homophobic freaks like yourself are going to be cast out of heaven, don't you? Do you just live the once, and think that by accepting a dead carpenter as your savior, you can get to your fantasy planet in the clouds after you die? Jesus did the work, you haven't and you don't get a free pass just for believing in him. Look, uhm, 'toasted', I don't know what the hell you're drinking but it can't be good. Lay it off, let it go, not good for you (unless it's camel urine, then it may be good in your case). So what is this talk about religion now, where did that come from? And WTF is a "homophobe"? lol Figures. Go ahead and point out anything I've said against homosexuals here except the truth of what I can see for myself. So just because I refuse to dance to the merry old tune of conformity I'm all those things to people like you? Well guess what, I don't care what you or those like you think. You can all go to hell for all I care, just keep your abnormal practice to yourselves. It wasn't normal, it isn't normal and it won't be normal period.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 15:44:54 GMT
edward if it makes you happy to think of me as a troll then go for it. But just remember, you are hateful and ignorant. Yes, I have no problem with interracial marriage, therefore I'm hateful and ignorant. Good one.
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Post by j2 on Feb 21, 2017 15:48:50 GMT
edward if it makes you happy to think of me as a troll then go for it. But just remember, you are hateful and ignorant. Yes, I have no problem with interracial marriage, therefore I'm hateful and ignorant. Good one. Not quite. I don't think that's why @angelicnemesis says it.
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Post by Blue on Feb 21, 2017 16:10:55 GMT
Let me build this scenario for you and I want you answer honestly. Don't answer around it, don't ignore the entire post and only pick bits and pieces to respond to. Please read the whole thing and answer. My family does not approve of my partner and told me they don't want to meet him or have anything to do with him. So let's say he and I eventually move in together and are together for many years, and do not get married. I get into a car accident and am rushed into the emergency room where I am in critical condition and not conscious. My partner is contacted by the ER and he rushes to the hospital. However they tell him that he's not allowed in to see me because it's family only. My parents arrive to see me and tell my partner that he's not welcome and to leave. My parents are in the room with me as I die. Later on, my partner is not allowed to plan or be at my funeral. I was a business owner and he is a college student. So that means I was the breadwinner. The home we were living in was in my name so my family wants to claim it and kick him out. All my savings and accounts become accessible to my family and not to my partner. Now if all of this could have been avoided if we had been married and he had LEGAL right to be with me in my final moments and also had LEGAL right to the home and finances I worked hard to build for our security, do you still have a problem with gay marriage? Why do you keep ignoring that I have said (many, many times now!) that I don't have a problem with homosexuals getting married?. My problem is with their messing up the lives of children. If you want to marry for only legal/financial reasons, you're playing into the assumptions people already make. I think you're completely missing my point. I'm clearly demonstrating why gay people should have the same rights and benefits that come with marriage. Obviously one should get married with someone they love, not JUST for the benefits. But of course, that's the aspect of my post you are responding to, not the whole post. And you clearly don't agree with gay marriage as you keep referring to it as gays getting "married" like it's some pretend make-believe thing. And now you're saying that you don't have a problem with it, only that gay people screw up children. I have no words. You're a nice little old lady on other topics, but whether you want to admit it or not, your stance comes from a place of prejudice and hate. I answered you. Why are you judging me by (Father Jack Hackett's) prejudice? That is not wjat a moderator should do. I may be a moderator, but I have every right to participate on the boards as you do. I don't necessarily agree with him that you are a troll, but I think you're a person with VERY limited, warped view of the world. By the way, I have to adhere to the rules just like every one else. I don't misuse my power as a mod. There are other mods as well as the admin who makes sure we all act fairly.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 16:40:52 GMT
Yes, I have no problem with interracial marriage, therefore I'm hateful and ignorant. Good one. Not quite. I don't think that's why @angelicnemesis says it. Why does she say it then?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 16:52:59 GMT
Why do you keep ignoring that I have said (many, many times now!) that I don't have a problem with homosexuals getting married?. My problem is with their messing up the lives of children. If you want to marry for only legal/financial reasons, you're playing into the assumptions people already make. I think you're completely missing my point. I'm clearly demonstrating why gay people should have the same rights and benefits that come with marriage. Obviously one should get married with someone they love, not JUST for the benefits. But of course, that's the aspect of my post you are responding to, not the whole post. And you clearly don't agree with gay marriage as you keep referring to it as gays getting "married" like it's some pretend make-believe thing. And now you're saying that you don't have a problem with it, only that gay people screw up children. I have no words. You're a nice little old lady on other topics, but whether you want to admit it or not, your stance comes from a place of prejudice and hate. I answered you. Why are you judging me by (Father Jack Hackett's) prejudice? That is not wjat a moderator should do. I may be a moderator, but I have every right to participate on the boards as you do. I don't necessarily agree with him that you are a troll, Oh, she so is
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Post by islandmur on Feb 21, 2017 17:02:27 GMT
islandmur & edward - No I won't explain it to you because I can't put it into simple enough language for you to understand. I know what will happen, you are both so close minded and ignorant that you will just attack me for my views. Your side has made it's bed now it can lie in it. I don't have to have circular arguments with hateful immoral creeps like you two. It is immoral, as you don't understand morality you can't hope to understand why it is wrong. You also won't have a hope in hell of understanding why it is bad for society as you are again so hateful and ignorant that you think it is right. Just trolling then I guess. Gotcha. where is that reply? I didnt see it. Anyways I'm trying to reconcile how I'm close minded and ignorant since I've had little contact with this person who has already insulted me a few times.
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Post by jillmcbain on Feb 21, 2017 17:20:27 GMT
edward Decent people don't want that immoral shit, I know you don't understand but bad luck. Thank you for illustrating why this kind of thing shouldn't be left to Governments. What's immoral about it? Nothing is immoral about it. Everybody is entitled to happiness. It's even written in the Constitution. It is very interesting that Angelic Nemesis was trolling the politics board a few hours ago and spew hate against the political left and Islam. So, to her we are only entitled to what she defines as happiness and 'decent'. This is somebody who cannot admit to others to live as they wish to.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Feb 21, 2017 17:41:34 GMT
Just trolling then I guess. Gotcha. where is that reply? I didnt see it. Anyways I'm trying to reconcile how I'm close minded and ignorant since I've had little contact with this person who has already insulted me a few times. Looks like whoever that was got herself deleted. No great loss!
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