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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 0:59:09 GMT
tpfkar "So if your job requires you to work on Sundays you should let your family starve? There's this little thing called common sense. "So you put your "common sense" above God's instructions? Those are God's instructions for the ancient Israel theocracy, not for us now. What do you expect medical professionals to do? We are not bound by the Old Testament. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/why-we-are-not-bound-by-everything-in-the-old-law
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 23, 2017 1:06:00 GMT
No, it wasn't a translation, it was an edit as the meaning of the sentance was changed. So you keep saying - as I don't know Swedish, I have to trust you are telling the truth. Maybe because the original was incorrect? You hadn't thought of that of course. No, as many words were changes as time had moved on. One of the words were "kjortel" a traditional swedish clothing, but when the new edition of the bible was made, no one wore them anymore, so they changed it to "skjorta" which mean shirt. And don't worry about whether I think or not, I think to much, and you are not the first person I've had this conversation with.
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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 1:07:22 GMT
Being saved from what? The likes of you? . Christians should love all, not pick and choose who to love or what law to follow. We don't do that. The Bible continues after the Gospel of John, as do Jesus' "laws". Jesus isn't the "free sex hippie" many here like to pretend he is. He's not freaking Jim Morrison of the Doors!
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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 1:09:12 GMT
Too bad for you, but I do care about children. But only the straight ones right, you bigoted phony! There are no "non-straight" children. All children are heterosexual and no amount of molestation and paedophilia changes that.
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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 1:10:44 GMT
Grow up. I started work as a translator in 2013. You'll never know for whom or of what. Supes must be kept away from the enterprise. Yeah you never volunteer information do you Ada? That was information I "volunteered" to show I know what I am talking about. That doesn't entitle you to snoop and sneer.
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 23, 2017 1:11:57 GMT
Yes, according to the bible, you know, gods will, you should let your famuily starve and god also says that you should kill people. " There's this little thing called common sense." Oh, sweet irony, common sence tells us that homosexuuality is natural. So you've never heard of the New Testament? Oh and common sense doesn't tell us that anal sex is natural - given the health problems it causes, how can it be? And you have never heard about reading the whole conversation? It's the person I answered that don't think that the teachings of the new testament is something to follow as a christian. How did homosexuality suddenly become anal sex? Oh, right, you think everything is about making babies and that nothing have to do with love, companionship etc. Homosexuality is natural, we see it in the animal kingdom aswell.
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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 1:12:18 GMT
No, he didn't. He did say "don't be a hypocrite - don't judge others when your behaviour is worse". Also, the Bible doesn't end with the Gospel of John, as you've been told. Then stop. I am not being a hypocrite, so what are you whining about?
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 23, 2017 1:21:26 GMT
3- however that does not mean that edits haven't been made to the bible in translations because of previous mistakes or altered to fit a culture of the time. Because of previous mistakes, probably - the KJV, (the atheist's favourite) is often guilty of mistakes. But to "fit the culture of the time", not a chance! Do you really think that would go un-noticed? Considering that just a few percent could read and even fewer understand the language the bible was written in, plus that the munks translating the bibles never had the chance to travel to those countries to learn the subtle nuances to fully understand it, so yes, any rational person realizes that it highly likely that changes have been made over time.
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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 1:27:23 GMT
How did homosexuality suddenly become anal sex? Oh, right, you think everything is about making babies and that nothing have to do with love, companionship etc. Homosexuality is natural, we see it in the animal kingdom aswell. No, we don't see homosex in the animal kingdom we see it in zoos under situations of stress - but even if we did, people should act as animals do? Incest and cannibalism should be fine then. I have noted companionship in lesbian relationships, but male homosexuality is purely transactional, and what else can they do but anal sex?
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Post by awhina on Feb 23, 2017 1:29:41 GMT
Because of previous mistakes, probably - the KJV, (the atheist's favourite) is often guilty of mistakes. But to "fit the culture of the time", not a chance! Do you really think that would go un-noticed? Considering that just a few percent could read and even fewer understand the language the bible was written in, plus that the munks translating the bibles never had the chance to travel to those countries to learn the subtle nuances to fully understand it, so yes, any rational person realizes that it highly likely that changes have been made over time. Utter nonsense, and excuse making. There are no changes - scholars have verified that. www.gotquestions.org/Bible-reliable.html
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Post by Blue on Feb 23, 2017 1:31:07 GMT
To steer this very heated conversation in a more philosophical direction, I have a hypothetical scenario and I'd love to hear your answers, especially those not in favor of gay people. What would you do?
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Post by progressiveelement on Feb 23, 2017 1:31:48 GMT
English teacher, IT expert, Biblical scholar, mind reader, translator.... You're lying again, prog. I have never ever said I was a Bible scholar, but hey at least I can read! Have I ever given the impression I couldn't read, oh Teacher of a Subject I Have Qualifications In?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 1:37:35 GMT
. Then in the end you said you were a different person because you had started using a different nick. You're lying. I never said I was 'a different person' that's Joff's lie. Yes, you did. I saw you say it with my own two eyes. Sounds good to me.
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 23, 2017 1:39:33 GMT
How did homosexuality suddenly become anal sex? Oh, right, you think everything is about making babies and that nothing have to do with love, companionship etc. Homosexuality is natural, we see it in the animal kingdom aswell. No, we don't see homosex in the animal kingdom we see it in zoos under situations of stress - but even if we did, people should act as animals do? Incest and cannibalism should be fine then. I have noted companionship in lesbian relationships, but male homosexuality is purely transactional, and what else can they do but anal sex? What? We only see animals in zoos? Hmm, okay, you are not a big nature lover I see. Myself, I live in the woods and see wild animals on a daily basis, I have a somewhat tamed deer that don't care one bit if I tell her to piss of from my veggie garden, she even gave birth to her baby on my field. So sweetie, we see animals all of the time, when I studied biology, we spent a whole week just looking att birds nesting. You must have a very boring sexlife. Ever heard of things like oral sex? Do you know that some male dogs even give themself blowjobs?
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 23, 2017 1:46:30 GMT
Considering that just a few percent could read and even fewer understand the language the bible was written in, plus that the munks translating the bibles never had the chance to travel to those countries to learn the subtle nuances to fully understand it, so yes, any rational person realizes that it highly likely that changes have been made over time. Utter nonsense, and excuse making. There are no changes - scholars have verified that. www.gotquestions.org/Bible-reliable.htmlNo, logic. As the swedish king during medieval times asked my ancestors on my fathers side to come and work for him as they could read an write. Very, very few were litterate. So what was your link suposed to prove? That you think that a webb page with no referances is something to listen to?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 23, 2017 1:54:26 GMT
Considering that just a few percent could read and even fewer understand the language the bible was written in, plus that the munks translating the bibles never had the chance to travel to those countries to learn the subtle nuances to fully understand it, so yes, any rational person realizes that it highly likely that changes have been made over time. Why do people keep making this ridiculous argument?
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Post by yezziqa on Feb 23, 2017 2:01:36 GMT
Considering that just a few percent could read and even fewer understand the language the bible was written in, plus that the munks translating the bibles never had the chance to travel to those countries to learn the subtle nuances to fully understand it, so yes, any rational person realizes that it highly likely that changes have been made over time. Why do people keep making this ridiculous argument? Because thay are true?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 2:13:25 GMT
To steer this very heated conversation in a more philosophical direction, I have a hypothetical scenario and I'd love to hear your answers, especially those not in favor of LGBT people. What would you do? I'm not anti LGBT but I'm going to answer anyway. He would enter Heaven.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 23, 2017 2:48:56 GMT
Why do people keep making this ridiculous argument? Because thay are true? Not only is it not true, but it's connecting things that have nothing to do with each other. It's pretending for some reason that there there is only one batch of translators at any given time and that throughout all of humanity including up to our day, everyone except translators are a bunch of illiterate morons which would include yourself. On top of that, it implies that there is a hidden agenda of translating according to beliefs at the time when the translations have stayed consistent in spite of teaching that contradict the purity of the translation. If most translations done now are for the simple goal of translating to something understandable to different groups, why on earth wiuld Scripture be any different? I have no problems schooling you on any Bible you care to throw at me because that is not the purpose of translating. If there is some whacky Bible out there, it is exposed by the mountain of other translations that are pretty close to the original texts. So I ask again why do people continue to make this ridiculous argument?
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Post by Blue on Feb 23, 2017 3:37:36 GMT
To steer this very heated conversation in a more philosophical direction, I have a hypothetical scenario and I'd love to hear your answers, especially those not in favor of LGBT people. What would you do? Why is homosexuality being compartmetalized into an alaphet soup like LGBT? Transgender is not even a sexuality. It's no wonder why "genuine" gay people get such a difficult time getting people to acknowledge homosexuality as a genuine and natural sexuality, because those who are active in the gay community are being their own worst enemies. It's wanting to lump mentally ill people who can't accept the body they are born into and making them on a par with gay men who DO appreciate and embrace their gender. The inclusion of trans people in the commonly-used LGBT terminology had nothing to do with the thought exercise, but I went ahead and edited "LGBT people" to say "gay people" to make the hypothetical scenario more specific.
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