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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 22:23:12 GMT
Nothing perverted about homosexuality.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 14, 2017 22:24:21 GMT
Too bad you don't get to define truth and reality. You can only do that for yourself. You can stick you head in the sand but it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is perversion. Disagreeing with me a second and third time won't change the definition of perversion either gramps. To YOU it's a perversion. I try not to be judgemental of reality, and apparently gay people exist. Do you realize that if you stopped thinking of homosexuality as a perversion you'd free your mind up to think about other things? You're just stuck on it because your judging it.
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Post by blade on Mar 14, 2017 22:29:05 GMT
You can stick you head in the sand but it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is perversion. Disagreeing with me a second and third time won't change the definition of perversion either gramps. To YOU it's a perversion. I try not to be judgemental of reality, and apparently gay people exist. Do you realize that if you stopped thinking of homosexuality as a perversion you'd free your mind up to think about other things? You're just stuck on it because your judging it. As I said you haven't changed the definition of perversion and denying that's it's perversion doesn't change the truth of the matter.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Mar 14, 2017 22:31:22 GMT
To YOU it's a perversion. I try not to be judgemental of reality, and apparently gay people exist. Do you realize that if you stopped thinking of homosexuality as a perversion you'd free your mind up to think about other things? You're just stuck on it because your judging it. As I said you haven't changed the definition of perversion and denying that's it's perversion doesn't change the truth of the matter.
Brace yourself Blade: Different people have different perspectives. I don't think gay people are 'perversions', you do. I didn't learn a bunchy of stupid bigotry from religious and personal role models, you apparently did.
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Post by blade on Mar 14, 2017 22:34:45 GMT
As I said you haven't changed the definition of perversion and denying that's it's perversion doesn't change the truth of the matter.
Brace yourself Blade: Different people have different perspectives. I don't think gay people are 'perversions', you do. I didn't learn a bunchy of stupid bigotry from religious and personal role models, you apparently did. Definition of perversion 1 : the action of perverting : the condition of being perverted 2 : a perverted form; especially : an aberrant sexual practice or interest especially when habitual
The truth is homosexuality is perversion. Whether you accept that truth or not is irrelevant. You seem incapable of comprehending that Gramps.
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Post by puvo on Mar 14, 2017 22:40:00 GMT
Brace yourself Blade: Different people have different perspectives. I don't think gay people are 'perversions', you do. I didn't learn a bunchy of stupid bigotry from religious and personal role models, you apparently did. Definition of perversion 1 : the action of perverting : the condition of being perverted 2 : a perverted form; especially : an aberrant sexual practice or interest especially when habitual
The truth is homosexuality is perversion. Whether you accept that truth or not is irrelevant. You seem incapable of comprehending that Gramps.
Aberrant means departing from an accepted standard. So yeah, we are fine with gay people, meaning it's not a perversion in our eyes.
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Post by blade on Mar 14, 2017 22:49:41 GMT
Definition of perversion 1 : the action of perverting : the condition of being perverted 2 : a perverted form; especially : an aberrant sexual practice or interest especially when habitual
The truth is homosexuality is perversion. Whether you accept that truth or not is irrelevant. You seem incapable of comprehending that Gramps.
Aberrant means departing from an accepted standard. So yeah, we are fine with gay people, meaning it's not a perversion in our eyes. Thanks captain obvious
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Post by puvo on Mar 14, 2017 22:55:08 GMT
Aberrant means departing from an accepted standard. So yeah, we are fine with gay people, meaning it's not a perversion in our eyes. Thanks captain obvious
So yeah, we get you think it's a perversion, but quit trying to pretend it is an underlying truth that we just aren't seeing.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 14, 2017 22:56:40 GMT
I literally couldn't care less.
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Post by blade on Mar 14, 2017 23:00:07 GMT
Thanks captain obvious
So yeah, we get you think it's a perversion, but quit trying to pretend it is an underlying truth that we just aren't seeing. The truth is....once again....that the definition of perversion fits homosexuality. There's no getting around that fact.
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Post by puvo on Mar 14, 2017 23:05:55 GMT
So yeah, we get you think it's a perversion, but quit trying to pretend it is an underlying truth that we just aren't seeing. The truth is....once again....that the definition of perversion fits homosexuality. There's no getting around that fact.
Need me to define aberrant again? The bolded part of your definition is where your argument fell down. What you define as the accepted standard is not what we define it as. Therefore, you think it is a perversion, we don't. You don't have access to any underlying truth.
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Post by blade on Mar 14, 2017 23:25:21 GMT
The truth is....once again....that the definition of perversion fits homosexuality. There's no getting around that fact.
Need me to define aberrant again? The bolded part of your definition is where your argument fell down. What you define as the accepted standard is not what we define it as. Therefore, you think it is a perversion, we don't. You don't have access to any underlying truth. Perversion is a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal. I'll just leave this here.
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Post by puvo on Mar 14, 2017 23:35:52 GMT
Need me to define aberrant again? The bolded part of your definition is where your argument fell down. What you define as the accepted standard is not what we define it as. Therefore, you think it is a perversion, we don't. You don't have access to any underlying truth. Perversion is a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal. I'll just leave this here. Funny, could have sworn at some stage you have had issues with lifting things from wikipedia. Others see homosexuality as a normal variation in sexual attraction. I see you are now moving away from your term aberrant. Nice one. You find it repulsive, others don't. You are still not privy to some underlying truth in this matter. You think it is a perversion, we don't.
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Post by blade on Mar 14, 2017 23:55:36 GMT
Perversion is a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal. I'll just leave this here. Funny, could have sworn at some stage you have had issues with lifting things from wikipedia. Others see homosexuality as a normal variation in sexual attraction. I see you are now moving away from your term aberrant. Nice one. You find it repulsive, others don't. You are still not privy to some underlying truth in this matter. You think it is a perversion, we don't. If it deviates from what is known to be normal it's perversion, that is homosexuality.
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Post by puvo on Mar 15, 2017 0:14:52 GMT
Funny, could have sworn at some stage you have had issues with lifting things from wikipedia. Others see homosexuality as a normal variation in sexual attraction. I see you are now moving away from your term aberrant. Nice one. You find it repulsive, others don't. You are still not privy to some underlying truth in this matter. You think it is a perversion, we don't. If it deviates from what is known to be normal it's perversion, that is homosexuality. Now your definition is far too broad. You being single at your age deviates from normal, which makes you a perversion. It makes asexual people a perversion. It is a normal variation on sexual attraction. You find it repulsive. Fine. Others don't. You see it as a perversion, others don't. You STILL don't have access to some underlying truth. You bolded "an aberrant sexual practice" as the main part of your definition. As has already been said, you don't get to define "accepted standard" for everyone, so your own post proves you incorrect.
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Post by blade on Mar 15, 2017 0:23:29 GMT
If it deviates from what is known to be normal it's perversion, that is homosexuality. Now your definition is far too broad. You being single at your age deviates from normal, which makes you a perversion. It makes asexual people a perversion. It is a normal variation on sexual attraction. You find it repulsive. Fine. Others don't. You see it as a perversion, others don't. You STILL don't have access to some underlying truth. You bolded "an aberrant sexual practice" as the main part of your definition. As has already been said, you don't get to define "accepted standard" for everyone, so your own post proves you incorrect. No it isn't too broad but nice try.
And I'm not single or asexual but keep fishing.
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Post by puvo on Mar 15, 2017 1:23:50 GMT
Now your definition is far too broad. You being single at your age deviates from normal, which makes you a perversion. It makes asexual people a perversion. It is a normal variation on sexual attraction. You find it repulsive. Fine. Others don't. You see it as a perversion, others don't. You STILL don't have access to some underlying truth. You bolded "an aberrant sexual practice" as the main part of your definition. As has already been said, you don't get to define "accepted standard" for everyone, so your own post proves you incorrect. No it isn't too broad but nice try.
And I'm not single or asexual but keep fishing.
Way to miss the point. I also didn't say you were asexual.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 1:28:18 GMT
Need me to define aberrant again? The bolded part of your definition is where your argument fell down. What you define as the accepted standard is not what we define it as. Therefore, you think it is a perversion, we don't. You don't have access to any underlying truth. Perversion is a type of human behavior that deviates from that which is understood to be orthodox or normal. I'll just leave this here. And by that definition, homosexuality is not a perversion. So you prove your own claim wrong.
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Post by j2 on Mar 15, 2017 4:10:12 GMT
If you live in 'the west', you DO live in a sick perverted society. What you say may be true that you and those you know really see things that way, but the way you see it is inconsistent with truth. Just because you see it that way it doesn't automatically mean that it is that way. In fact it isn't. You may be trying to mock my own expressions, but it is a useless effort of yours if you don't stand on the side of how things are, and you don't. In any case, I'll respond to this expression as if it were yours for the benefit of other potential readers: So, about "your" answer to me now: (actual copy/paste of my own words -- I say this now in case more posts get "moderated" and 'vanish') So you pasted: Let me break it down: It is true that I see it the way I see it. Actually it is very consistent with truth. Read next. True. In fact it IS. If you live in 'the west', you DO live in a sick perverted society. It is sick because it isn't healthy. It isn't healthy because it isn't sound. It isn't sound because it isn't functioning optimally; because it isn't free from defect or damage, and because it is injured. You yourself indirectly hinted to this fact, that it is injured, if I remember the conversation correctly ("...it isn't perfect..." -- "The society I live in is not perfect, ..." -- your own words which I now re-checked). It is perverted because it is distorted, and distorted because it is altered and deviated from the way it was originally created, established and intended to function. If you live in 'the west', you DO live in a sick perverted society. You may not like this truth, but what you may like or dislike about it is irrelevant to its nature, and things are the way they are nevertheless.
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Post by j2 on Mar 15, 2017 4:30:25 GMT
Nothing perverted about homosexuality. If by 'nothing' you mean 'many things' or 'everything', you are correct.
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