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Post by Blue on Feb 19, 2017 20:56:59 GMT
Are we allowed to tell people to pull their heads out of their asses on this forum? Some people really need to hear it. Yeah, go for it 👍 As long as the post is relevant and constructive to the overall conversation, you can say whatever you want. Doxxing, promoting violence, and straight up bullying will not be tolerated, however.
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Post by Blue on Feb 19, 2017 21:17:53 GMT
I'm not a bee! D: D: D:
I'm a buzzing little lightning bug.
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Post by j2 on Feb 19, 2017 21:20:01 GMT
Not true. A great many men don't see homosexuals or homosexuality as any kind of 'threat' at all. Instead, they see homosexuals as sick and twisted individuals, and [the act of] homosexuality as wrong... Responsibility is very important. 'Various' sexualities? There are only two. I don't know what your take on it is, so being as objective as possible here and basing on what you have commented, you appear to be mincing terms. Those that see "homosexuality" as being sick, twisted and wrong, is because they are ignorant and DO see it as a threat. Does it necessarily have to be like you say? Is there no way it could be any different?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 22:37:38 GMT
I like lightening bugs. They are beautiful. When I was young, we would sit outside and watch them light up.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 19, 2017 22:38:19 GMT
Actually it doesn't. Just because words like 'asexual', 'tolerance' and 'gay' have been twisted to mean things other than their real (original) meaning, it does not make them true to form by essence. So how would you define "asexual"? If it is simply abstinence from sex, then that is not being asexual - that is being chaste. If you have sexual desires, then you are sexual - even if you're not sexually active.
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Post by vomisacaasi on Feb 19, 2017 22:58:45 GMT
Do you even pay attention to what you wright? Telling me you did not get a divorce is correcting me. Telling that he died and the year is volunteering information. It was not sneer. It was pointing out what I thought was hypocrisy. But I was wro.... had incorrect information and in this case you were not being hypocritical. Oh and by the way that is exactly what you said. f Sigh.I volunteered no information as you already knew that I was married and when he died, you learned that on the other board. You are just trolling. I had forgotten that he had died but I could not have learned that information on the other board it you had not volunteered it.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 0:45:43 GMT
But where I live gay married couples get all the same legal rights as regular married couples. The kids in kindergarten who pretend to get married do not get those same legal rights. So it's clearly not the same. Marriage is more than just a legal entity. It's social, cultural and religious. When I meet a homosexual "married" couple I think of them as if they are the 4 year olds. They are playing. Like the four year olds they will tire of the game. Then it will be another divorce statistic. Sad. Which is why people treat you like a four-year-old. Sad. The discussion of legal marriage is only about legal status. Religious and social concepts are their own. That said, if you don't grasp the simple idea of equal treatment before the law, you're no different than any sexist lawmaker of old.
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Post by j2 on Feb 20, 2017 0:45:49 GMT
Does it necessarily have to be like you say? Is there no way it could be any different? What way could it be then? Any number of ways. For example, they may not be 'ignorant' and they may not feel threatened at all, yes or no?
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Post by j2 on Feb 20, 2017 0:51:10 GMT
Actually it doesn't. Just because words like 'asexual', 'tolerance' and 'gay' have been twisted to mean things other than their real (original) meaning, it does not make them true to form by essence. So how would you define "asexual"? If it is simply abstinence from sex, then that is not being asexual - that is being chaste. If you have sexual desires, then you are sexual - even if you're not sexually active. It's not about how I define it or redefine it; I don't try to and its real definition remains clear. Instead, this word and others have been redefined to fit an agenda. How can that be good? And yet, despite of it all it's Male and Female; just how it is.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 0:52:40 GMT
My husband and I play bridge with another couple every Wednesday. This other couple says lots of disparaging things about gay people. Today they went over the top. They often talk about gay marriage and how it should not be allowed, this time the husband went on about pedophilia and how 'Almost all gay men are pedophiles'. How does one deal with such people while still trying to keep love in your heart? Is gay people getting married something that bothers you? If so.... why? To my mind, these are not your friends. If they were, you wouldn't be holding on to your reaction and taking it to the board, you'd be responding directly to them. Even in their profferred comments, if "almost all" gay men are paedophiles, they're admitting that some aren't. Ask them why they have a problem with law treating people as people. Ask they why they accept empowering the government to treat you differently based on your gender. Tell them that whether or not they like women's rights, they're there to stay and that means law can't specify gender. Change the conversation on them and address the issues they're turning a blind eye to. Hold them accountable for the sexism inherent in their view. While homophobia may still be something many feel fine saying outright, that doesn't go for sexism. Show them the full scope of their stance.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 0:56:40 GMT
@ oldsamvines That is not what I have heard about Homosexual marriage in Canada. I will also add that the Homo's have been really annoying here in Australia about this and as a result they have pissed a lot of people off. In fact we were supposed to have a plebiscite on this topic this year but as they now fear they will lose this they are trying to push the Govt just to make it legal. So no. Fuck them. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Nice revisionism. And in Australia, majority support for equal marriage has been standard in polls for some time now. It's reality you don't like. Don't go blaming that on gays.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 0:59:27 GMT
Terrapin Station Sorry Terrapin but your fellow Leftard OldManVines has rendered me disinterested in having this discussion due to his abuse and bullshit. I can't be bothered explaining it in simple enough language for a Leftard to understand only for you to start abusing me as well. Gee, what a big loss! Poor bigots... people are always abusing them. No wonder they have to puss out like that all the time. Wonder what it'd be like if one of those bigots had balls.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 1:02:28 GMT
Maybe they should just call it something different than married to make everyone happy. Call it 'hitched' or something like that. Get a word different than married but make it so they still get the same rights as real married people. No. Absolutely f-ing no. Should we call interracial marriage something else because there were small-minded bigots opposed? Of course not. One law for all people. Anything else is institutionalizing abuse. What do you think Trump would be doing if he could treat women, ethnicities, or religious beliefs separately in law? Here in Canada, when former PM Paul Martin floated 'civil unions', the public shouted him down and he apologized within a week, promising equal marriage. Separate law is not acceptable to decent people.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 1:19:02 GMT
Wait what. Some people do not have the capability of being biological parents and sometimes there is no "cure". I know that - but there are always options with straight people. Homosexual marriages are sterile by nature. Which essentially is showing that you think of adopted children as lesser. Unsurprising for your mindset.
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Post by althea on Feb 20, 2017 1:27:04 GMT
Maybe they should just call it something different than married to make everyone happy. Call it 'hitched' or something like that. Get a word different than married but make it so they still get the same rights as real married people. In Australia, they already have that. Our government refuses to accept gay marriage...until (for example) someone in one tries to apply for the dole, at which point Centrelink will inform them their spouse should support them before the taxpayer. In some cases, our government will also recognise other couples who don't fit the legal criteria for a marriage certificate as being married, too...for example, people who are too young to legally marry but live together in a relationship that fits the social/cultural definition of marriage, and therefore the legal definition of de facto spouse. Generally the definition involves a living arrangement lasting a particular length of time, or the existence of children. If there was a disparity in rights involved, I don't think we'd have made it this far without gay marriage to be honest. Our government rectified the problem by giving couples who are not legally married the same rights as those who are, back when we had a prime minister living in a de facto relationship because she didn't believe in marriage.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 1:27:56 GMT
Any gay person in their right mind, would steer clear of pious religious institutions marrying them anyway. They are some of the biggest bigots and perpetrators of homophobia around. What is feared, is that kids might get screwed up , if they become a part of the mix. That's a joke! As if heterosexual relationships don't already screw up their kids, and not to mention the homophobia they condition onto their children, as homosexuality isn't seen as a genuine sexuality and on equal ground. Nice that heterosexuals get to take things for granted. They must be the spoiled members of our society. That's a limited view. Here in Canada, it was churches that led the fight for equal marriage recognition, as the United Church of Canada and Anglican Church of Canada both were performing marriages for gay couples long before they had legal recognition. Those are the 2nd and 3rd largest denominations in the country, BTW.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 1:31:53 GMT
That's because heterosexuals see it as a threat and not as the accepted norm in society. Yes, that is just human nature, yet heterosexuals need to take responsibility for the children they create of various sexualities, because they are the ones doing ALL the breeding. Fools! Yes we do the breeding and you depend on us for your recruitment. Sorry about that but not even the pink $ has been able to come up with a way to get children without women. As I say, sorry about that - but not really. I know all your opinions depend on your utter ignorance, but just once, try to educate yourself. There's been plenty of news about being able to create egg or sperm cells from stem cells, following on earlier tech which swapped out the nucleii of egg and/or sperm cells, all of which allows for children with two biological parents of the same sex. Of course, two women can only have girls this way as there'd be no Y chromosome.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 1:33:34 GMT
Straight, gay, bisexual, asexual... I make that four already. Well if you say so, but none of it makes it true. There are TWO 'sexes' in [normal] nature: Male and Female. People can call 'Red' 'Green' if they want to; it doesn't mean the colors are changed. Your ignorance doesn't define reality. The intersexed, people with genitals from both sexes, have existed throughout time.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Feb 20, 2017 1:37:30 GMT
I'm not a whiny idiot, so no.
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Post by skyhawk0 on Feb 20, 2017 1:40:46 GMT
Except that it does. Don't be an ignorant bigot. Try to strive to be a better person. You'll feel better.
In your mind it does, but it is not truth. You can try to (re)define an entire dictionary to fit what you think is true, but truth remains truth and false remains false. You are speaking falseness. You speak of ignorance, bigotry and striving to being a better person, and yet look at your kind of response. That response does not change truth either regardless of how you try to twist it. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Oh, the irony! No, no one else is trying to redefine words. Don't project your lack of integrity onto others. You were shown the meaning of the word. Whining and pretending you weren't won't change that.
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