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Post by bd74 on Feb 17, 2017 18:39:28 GMT
Kojak Baretta Cannon The Streets of San Francisco Barnaby Jones Starsky and Hutch Police Story Police Woman The Rockford Files McCloud McMillan & Wife Charlie's Angels Ironside Hawaii Five-0 Adam-12
Was what so appealing about having so many shows dealing with this subject matter?
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Post by Richard Kimble on Feb 17, 2017 20:00:13 GMT
Because they was popular?
The western genre was waning -- it would essentialy disappear from TV with cancellation of Gunsmoke in 1975 -- and a format was needed to satify the action audience.
There had been successful shows in the format before; Dragnet most obviously, but also M Squad, 77 Sunset Strip and its various Warners imitations, Peter Gunn, The Untouchables, Mannix... But the '70s was certainly its Golden Age.
The closeness of the two genres is clear. The Untouchables is essentially a simple updating of the Western formula, with Eliot Earp and his deputies protecting Chidodge City from Nitti the Kid.
There are even closer ties. Gunsmoke began on radio when William Paley ordered a western version of the Philip Marlowe radio show. And Have Gun Will Travel was originally conceived as a private eye series set in contemporary Manhattan. That didn't sell, but a few years later in the Western gold rush of 1957 the creators retooled it as a western set in 1870s San Francisco.
There's also the issue of America becoming less rural and more urbanized, but I'll leave that to the sociologists.
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Feb 17, 2017 20:03:26 GMT
I enjoyed most of those ... I didn't ever watch McCloud ... the rest are good ... you missed chips '77-'83
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Post by Jayman on Feb 18, 2017 3:50:23 GMT
Because they're awesome. Kojak and streets of san francisco are my favorite off that list
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Post by larryv on Feb 18, 2017 15:16:04 GMT
Baretta, Starsky and Hutch and The Rockford Files were my favorites.
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Post by Jayman on Feb 20, 2017 6:35:42 GMT
I was planning on watching the Rockford files at some point. I think I'd enjoy that one. baretta was pretty solid. Also I have to give a shoutout to Barnaby jones. Great series.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 20, 2017 6:44:29 GMT
The 50s was full of cop shows too, you just didn't hear of most of them past Dragnet. There was Highway Patrol, Racket Squad, Gang Busters, The Untouchables, etc., most of them didn't last past a couple seasons or so.
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Post by Jayman on Feb 20, 2017 6:48:51 GMT
I don't mind watching movies from the 50's, but those cop series is something else.
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Post by marianne48 on Feb 23, 2017 0:30:57 GMT
Some possible theories: 1. They were the urban version of Westerns--usually a private detective or a cop who worked a little "outside the law," like some of the old Western heroes. Except that the rural environment of Westerns was not in style in the 1970s (many "rural" shows in the early 1970s, although still popular, were cancelled by the networks, which wanted to court urban viewers, who presumably were younger and more likely to spend more). McCloud still managed to fit a cowboy persona into his cop role, though.
2. The economy was bad in the 1970s, so crime was a compelling subject for plotlines. TV wasn't ready to show criminals as heroes, but they could get away with showing quirky, unconventional detectives and cops who often annoyed their by-the-book superiors, yet always got the case solved in the end. Sometimes the cop/private detective heroes were shady enough to be taken for criminals (Rockford seemed a little suspicious, and Baretta was downright scary).
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Post by bd74 on Feb 23, 2017 22:34:44 GMT
Yes, I missed a few more: Banacek, Columbo, etc...
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Post by snsurone on Feb 26, 2017 20:46:15 GMT
I don't know why, but I'm sure glad it did. Most of the shows you named were terrific.
The only ones I didn't like were the ones where solving crimes was more of a hobby than an occupation for the wealthy playboy detectives. I'm referring mostly to BANACEK and BURKE'S LAW, although there were probably others.
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Post by Jayman on Feb 26, 2017 21:40:18 GMT
I may be in the minority but I didn't particularly care for Hawaii five-0. I didn't find Macgarret to be all that likable and the stories not all that compelling. Wo fat seemed more like a comic book character and I liked the episodes with him the least. I love the new version of Hawaii five-0. That's unusual for me because I almost always prefer the classic originals and mostly don't like remakes of any kind.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Mar 7, 2017 22:11:11 GMT
Seems like there are a lot of cop shows on today too. (Doctor shows and lawyer shows have also been a target throughout the decades).
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Post by Ass_E9 on Mar 7, 2017 22:54:11 GMT
Yes, I missed a few more: Banacek, Columbo, etc... Delvecchio
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Post by telegonus on Mar 8, 2017 7:08:16 GMT
I'm in the (apparent) minority here in not caring much for those Seventies cop and detective shows, especially anything Quinn Martin produced. The success of two late Sixties series, Mannix and Hawaii 5-0, surely had something to do with those kinds of shows taking off. Of the cop shows, Columbo works best for me. I saw the other NBC 90 minute cop show (sort of), McMillan & Wife, and found it okay. Even when I liked the star, whether it was William Conrad or Telly Savalas, I just couldn't get into their shows. When it comes to crime, especially urban crime, I find color distracting, as well as the more realistic style of those shows. For that kind of TV I prefer the black and white shows of the late Fifties through the mid-Sixties. I guess I'm kind of a Luddite about some things.
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Post by Richard Kimble on Mar 8, 2017 9:39:21 GMT
Seems like there are a lot of cop shows on today too. Essentially different genres with different ancestors. The rogue cop/loner private eye shows were descended from westerns, while today's CSI procedurals are children of Dragnet.
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Post by rateater on Mar 8, 2017 12:53:29 GMT
maybe the success of dirty harry? wasn't born yet though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 15:19:40 GMT
And to think, I watched every single one of 'em!
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Post by Captain Spencer on Mar 18, 2017 18:28:23 GMT
Why were there so many cop shows in the 70s? A couple of other posters pretty much nailed it. One said it was due to the economy back then and therefore violent crime was running rampant in the large American cities. It started to reflect on television and so cop shows became very popular. Another poster mentioned movies like Dirty Harry (and the sequels), which would have also had an impact on television. Certainly Harry Callahan may have influenced "tough cop" shows like Starsky and Hutch.
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Post by Mr_K_Pratt on Mar 18, 2017 19:17:49 GMT
maybe the success of dirty harry? wasn't born yet though. Bullitt and The French Connection also.
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