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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 2:53:26 GMT
I have no issue with people not liking the Disney Star Wars films. Enjoying a movie is a subjective thing.
But every time I try to watch or read something about Star Wars, it is a right-winger complaining about how SJWs have ruined Star Wars. Either that or that feminism is bad, or whites are being excluded...etc.
Then when something related to Star Wars like Solo or Galaxy’s Edge doesn’t do well, they celebrate it. To them Star Wars failing is a way to stick it to the libs.
Seriously, if you don’t like it, just talk about reasons for not liking it. Talk about screenplay, directing, acting...etc. Things that, you know, actually have to do with the quality of the film.
But enough crying about SJW and making a war against Star Wars as a war against liberals. We have real politics for you to complain about that. No need to insert it in Star Wars. You are only creating a toxic environment and dividing the fandom.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Aug 16, 2019 12:19:35 GMT
I have no issue with people not liking the Disney Star Wars films. Enjoying a movie is a subjective thing. But every time I try to watch or read something about Star Wars, it is a right-winger complaining about how SJWs have ruined Star Wars. Either that or that feminism is bad, or whites are being excluded...etc. Then when something related to Star Wars like Solo or Galaxy’s Edge doesn’t do well, they celebrate it. To them Star Wars failing is a way to stick it to the libs. Seriously, if you don’t like it, just talk about reasons for not liking it. Talk about screenplay, directing, acting...etc. Things that, you know, actually have to do with the quality of the film. But enough crying about SJW and making a war against Star Wars as a war against liberals. We have real politics for you to complain about that. No need to insert it in Star Wars. You are only creating a toxic environment and dividing the fandom. Oh boy, the people on this board aren't going to like this post at all. |
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Post by darkpast on Aug 16, 2019 17:13:01 GMT
good thing i'm on the left  |
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Post by amyghost on Aug 16, 2019 17:18:39 GMT
I have no issue with people not liking the Disney Star Wars films. Enjoying a movie is a subjective thing. But every time I try to watch or read something about Star Wars, it is a right-winger complaining about how SJWs have ruined Star Wars. Either that or that feminism is bad, or whites are being excluded...etc. Then when something related to Star Wars like Solo or Galaxy’s Edge doesn’t do well, they celebrate it. To them Star Wars failing is a way to stick it to the libs. Seriously, if you don’t like it, just talk about reasons for not liking it. Talk about screenplay, directing, acting...etc. Things that, you know, actually have to do with the quality of the film. But enough crying about SJW and making a war against Star Wars as a war against liberals. We have real politics for you to complain about that. No need to insert it in Star Wars. You are only creating a toxic environment and dividing the fandom. Oh boy, the people on this board aren't going to like this post at all. I like this post. It gets tiring to listen to rightwing nut-jobbers framing the most innocuous piece of entertainment in freaking political terms. Everything has to have an 'agenda', and the agenda always has to be 'liberal'; I suspect they select the bedtime stories they read to their kids on that criteria. They're guilty of the very same toxic politicizing of any and all subjects that they never tire of accusing the left of doing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 23:16:55 GMT
Oh boy, the people on this board aren't going to like this post at all. I like this post. It gets tiring to listen to rightwing nut-jobbers framing the most innocuous piece of entertainment in freaking political terms. Everything has to have an 'agenda', and the agenda always has to be 'liberal'; I suspect they select the bedtime stories they read to their kids on that criteria. They're guilty of the very same toxic politicizing of any and all subjects that they never tire of accusing the left of doing. It makes me miss the days of pre-quel hating. The comments were usually a long the lines of: “George Lucas sucks”,”Hayden Christensen is a wooden actor”, “Jar Jar Binks is the worst thing ever.”...etc. No politics and no trying to make us feel bad for liking it. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 16, 2019 23:56:17 GMT
I am going to make the claim that there are plenty of people on the left who also dislike the Disney Star Wars movies, and that there are plenty of people on the right who likes the Star Wars Disney movies.
Personally i liked The Force Awakens but i thought The Last Jedi was boring.
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Post by faustus5 on Aug 17, 2019 6:24:37 GMT
I am going to make the claim that there are plenty of people on the left who also dislike the Disney Star Wars movies. . . . Yeah, they're just invisible and silent. But somehow, mysteriously, you know they are just as plentiful as the misogynist right ringers for which we actually have bountiful evidence.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 17, 2019 17:55:32 GMT
I am going to make the claim that there are plenty of people on the left who also dislike the Disney Star Wars movies. . . . Yeah, they're just invisible and silent. But somehow, mysteriously, you know they are just as plentiful as the misogynist right ringers for which we actually have bountiful evidence. You must be a miserable person to be around. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 17, 2019 20:59:49 GMT
I am going to make the claim that there are plenty of people on the left who also dislike the Disney Star Wars movies. . . . Yeah, they're just invisible and silent. But somehow, mysteriously, you know they are just as plentiful as the misogynist right ringers for which we actually have bountiful evidence. So if i understand you correctly. If a person don`t like Disney`s Star Wars than he/she is automatically right wing. And if a person likes the Disney`s Star Wars movies. Than he/she is automatically left wing ?
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Post by jammer81386 on Aug 18, 2019 3:34:59 GMT
I have no issue with people not liking the Disney Star Wars films. Enjoying a movie is a subjective thing. But every time I try to watch or read something about Star Wars, it is a right-winger complaining about how SJWs have ruined Star Wars. Either that or that feminism is bad, or whites are being excluded...etc. Then when something related to Star Wars like Solo or Galaxy’s Edge doesn’t do well, they celebrate it. To them Star Wars failing is a way to stick it to the libs. Seriously, if you don’t like it, just talk about reasons for not liking it. Talk about screenplay, directing, acting...etc. Things that, you know, actually have to do with the quality of the film. But enough crying about SJW and making a war against Star Wars as a war against liberals. We have real politics for you to complain about that. No need to insert it in Star Wars. You are only creating a toxic environment and dividing the fandom. I consider myself on the right and I will concede that there is some truth to this. Back when Rogue One was released I recall a small, but significant faction of the fandom calling the film anti-white. Which I thought was quite silly. I am also quite tired of people harping on and on about The Last Jedi even though I, myself, am not a huge fan of the film. It has been said that Anti-SJW are the new SJW's. So I will agree that such comments have flooded the fandom in recent years. That said, I think that there is also room for criticism for the current Lucasfilm regime and supporters of the their films. First and foremost is the frequently used claim that all detractors of the recent films are misogynists, man-babies, toxic fans, the list goes on. I do not think it is unfair to call the messages of "female empowerment" to be heavy handed. Disney went as far as to create "The force is female" ad campaign. You say that criticisms should be limited to writing, directing, etc., but a political message being ham fisted into a story is a failure of those things. Leaving the Star Wars franchise, you have things like the Batwoman trailer, Brie Larson bashing men who disliked A Wrinkle in Time, a Trump-like villain in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, and all female reboots of past franchises. You can't push this constantly and not expect some backlash. I also find it rather hypocritical for you to say "We have real politics for you to complain about that. No need to insert it in Star Wars. " when it wasn't the "right" who inserted politics into the series, it was the "left" who did so and the "right" is subsequently criticizing it(albeit with much more fervor than is appropriate). Would you have the same attitude if Episode IX had pro-life, pro-gun, or even MRA themes to the story? To reiterate, I will agree that the amount of anti-sjw commentary on the recent films is excessive and overblown. But it is not entirely without merit. I am willing to admit that there is fault on "my side". Are you willing to do the same for yours?
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Post by faustus5 on Aug 18, 2019 12:25:33 GMT
So if i understand you correctly. If a person don`t like Disney`s Star Wars than he/she is automatically right wing. And if a person likes the Disney`s Star Wars movies. Than he/she is automatically left wing ? That isn't how logic works. Try again.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 18, 2019 12:46:47 GMT
So if i understand you correctly. If a person don`t like Disney`s Star Wars than he/she is automatically right wing. And if a person likes the Disney`s Star Wars movies. Than he/she is automatically left wing ? That isn't how logic works. Try again. I notice that you did not answer the question.
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Post by faustus5 on Aug 19, 2019 11:53:31 GMT
That isn't how logic works. Try again. I notice that you did not answer the question. Your question was based on a bullshit, lazy misreading of my post and it got the curt response it deserved.
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