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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 14, 2017 1:01:53 GMT
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Post by The Lost One on Apr 14, 2017 9:01:15 GMT
What a load of bollocks. It's stupid stuff like this that feeds white supremacy.
If you're going to argue for massive wealth and power redistribution (something I'm in favour of) at least have some concept of class warfare - Most of the ruling class are white men but most white men are not part of the ruling class. The "progressive institutions" that she champions like the EU and the US Democratic party prop up the capitalist state, they don't oppose it. In fact sometimes they enforce it brutally - see the EU's treatment of Greece. You'll never get real change if you leave it to the capitalists to fix things whilst demonising a group that has many members that could be your allies against inequality.
EDIT: I think this best displays her lack of understanding: "The influence of reckless white males were one of the primary reasons that led to the Great Recession which began in 2008." - sure but they didn't do it because they were white males. They did it because the system allowed them to make incredible amounts of money while putting all the risk on others. Any demographic would have done the same. It's the system you need to change, not a change in who controls the system.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 14, 2017 10:45:14 GMT
tpfkar Hpo knows how to generate hits. And ZA might just be a place that has inspired radicalization in a few people. no way |
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Post by Sulla on Apr 14, 2017 12:01:38 GMT
Yeah, I remember those idealistic college years. I'm still waiting for the dawn of the age of Aquarius. You know, the one with harmony and understanding, sympathy and trust abounding, no more falsehoods or derisions, golden living dreams of visions, mystic crystal revelation and the mind's true liberation. Dream on, Ms. Garland, dream on.
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Post by phludowin on Apr 14, 2017 12:26:16 GMT
EDIT: I think this best displays her lack of understanding: "The influence of reckless white males were one of the primary reasons that led to the Great Recession which began in 2008." - sure but they didn't do it because they were white males. They did it because the system allowed them to make incredible amounts of money while putting all the risk on others. Any demographic would have done the same. It's the system you need to change, not a change in who controls the system. I'm guessing that the author believes that if white males weren't in charge, the system would change; or there wouldn't be a capitalistic system. My opinion: She's wrong about this. Nigeria and Simbabwe are not better off than Namibia. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 14, 2017 12:39:47 GMT
They do not owe a collective debt to society for this.
I'm not going to take this article seriously or even presume that Huffington Post is in agreement with an opinion piece that is impossible to implement. It is only designed to get people talking although based off that the premise it is still flawed.
As an aside, there will never be a time that people will ever be for an equalization of wealth. No one wants to be poor but no one also wants to have equal assets or a control in place that limits their earnings potential.
There are already enough people out there to vote out the elite, but nothing can motivate them en masse and it appears that all one needs to do to sedate them is to have a good ad campaign and empty promises.
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 14, 2017 21:25:38 GMT
They made a response to the hatemail they received. We all read it wrong, apparently. Denying the vote to an individual based on race and gender isn't actually racist or sexist, we're just all thick.
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 14, 2017 21:29:31 GMT
What a load of bollocks. It's stupid stuff like this that feeds white supremacy.
If you're going to argue for massive wealth and power redistribution (something I'm in favour of) at least have some concept of class warfare - Most of the ruling class are white men but most white men are not part of the ruling class. The "progressive institutions" that she champions like the EU and the US Democratic party prop up the capitalist state, they don't oppose it. In fact sometimes they enforce it brutally - see the EU's treatment of Greece. You'll never get real change if you leave it to the capitalists to fix things whilst demonising a group that has many members that could be your allies against inequality.
EDIT: I think this best displays her lack of understanding: "The influence of reckless white males were one of the primary reasons that led to the Great Recession which began in 2008." - sure but they didn't do it because they were white males. They did it because the system allowed them to make incredible amounts of money while putting all the risk on others. Any demographic would have done the same. It's the system you need to change, not a change in who controls the system.
I don't think these people can understand the numbers involved. For example, women in politics. The UK has 658 MP's from a population of 65,000,000. If 100 people stood for each seat, that would be the nominees would represent 0.1% of the population. The vast majority of people of all races are simply trying to live their lives the best they can and look after their families. |
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Post by phludowin on Apr 15, 2017 8:42:16 GMT
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 15, 2017 9:38:47 GMT
But we liberals really do care about trigger warnings and hate speech, honest. |
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 15, 2017 12:02:24 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 15, 2017 19:45:51 GMT
Would you say that if the article was talking about black people or women? |
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 15, 2017 19:47:06 GMT
But we liberals really do care about trigger warnings and hate speech, honest. Hate speech doesn't count against white men. White men are literally Hitler. I mean I know we invented democracy and everyone else has appropriated our culture. Yes, it was us that ended slavery, but we are all literally Hitler. |
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Post by phludowin on Apr 15, 2017 20:17:48 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 15, 2017 20:50:18 GMT
Or, annoyed people who are not racist morons. |
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 18, 2017 16:51:15 GMT
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Apr 18, 2017 17:21:09 GMT
Is there a reason you're reading the South African HuffPo? |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Apr 18, 2017 19:01:03 GMT
Huffpo is a shit rag.
I don't link Breitbart then debate its contents because it's a shit rag. Why give it time and attention?
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Post by londonbird on Apr 19, 2017 7:22:28 GMT
It's the South Africa huff po and the blog post has now been removed so I have to assume there wee way to many complaints.
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Post by scienceisgod on Apr 20, 2017 19:21:44 GMT
 _______________ heatst.com/culture-wars/sly-hoaxer-who-humiliated-the-huffington-post-has-lost-his-job/Sly Hoaxer Who Humiliated the Huffington Post Has Lost His Job By Ian Miles Cheong April 20, 2017 Earlier this week, the gullible Huffington Post fell victim to a hoax article calling for white men to be stripped of their voting rights. The site became the subject of widespread derision and condemnation after HuffPost editors stood up to defend the article’s content. But as was later revealed, the author submitted the piece to Huffington Post South Africa as a hoax, intending to prove a point about the outlet’s radical leftist stance. He did so under a fake persona masquerading as a feminist activist named “Shelly Garland.” He has since lost his job after being outed by the site. Following its publication and subsequent retraction, the HuffPost identified the author behind the “Shelly Garland” persona as Marius Roodt, a researcher at South Africa’s Centre for Development and Enterprise. According to the site, the email address Roodt used to submit the piece was traced back to him. The site claims that his identity was further “confirmed with facial recognition technology,” as he digitally altered a picture of himself to look like a woman. Roodt admitted his role in the hoax when confronted by HuffPost reporters and was forced to submit his resignation from his job at the CDE (the resignation was accepted). The organization stated: “This kind of activity contradicts everything we stand for, is completely contrary to CDE’s media policy and our ethos as an organization.” The hoaxer apologized for his actions. “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean for it to go where it did, there was no intention to go after Verashni (Pillay, HuffPost South Africa’s editor-in-chief),” he said. Roodt told the publication that he sought to prove a point about the lack of fact-checking in South African journalism. “I thought, would it work? And it worked. In hindsight I wouldn’t have done it, I didn’t think it would get this big,” he said. They trolled you harder than anyone. |
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