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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 9, 2019 23:47:57 GMT
As always... essays, comments, images are encouraged and appreciated
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Post by wmcclain on Sept 10, 2019 0:00:40 GMT
Lawrence of Arabia (1962), directed by David Lean. The epic tale of a strong-willed, enigmatic man. This could have been another better-quality war adventure, like the director's previous film, The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957), but in the five year interval he developed a much deeper, more conflicted vision of war and heroism. It's also set on a much grander scale: I have never seen such vast landscapes in film before. The story is about Lawrence turning a corner, the filmmaker showing two perspectives on tales of war. The first part is all boy's big adventure, finely supported by Maurice Jarre's sweeping, romantic score. A Englishman descends on the primitive squabbling Arab tribes and by his force of will gets them organized to achieve impossible goals. Oddly enough, the Arabs understand him: "You're one of those English in love with the desert." They know it's a game to him and they are his chess pieces, but they follow him anyway. In the second part Lawrence's inner demons emerge. He finds he hates killing and it drives him mad. He has to do terrible things with his own hands, executing his friends. He's done with adventure and just wants out, but still poses for the cameras. In the final ignominy, the struggle sinks into political wrangling, all heroism snuffed out. A 1962 film can't be explicit about certain things, but those familiar with the biography of TE Lawrence will get the hints: - After executing one of his men, Lawrence confesses in shame to his superiors: "I enjoyed it."
- He becomes excessively morose after being captured and beaten by the Turks. His friends wonder "What did they do to him?"
The real Lawrence later wrote that he had been raped by the Turks and enjoyed it. He had masochistic desires and, back in England after the war, paid men to flog him. Another historical note: Lawrence's efforts were in support of General Allenby, who achieved total victory in his theater with minimal loss of his own troops. It says "Introducing Peter O'Toole", although the IMDB shows earlier small credits. It must be one of the most auspicious debuts in film history, although he never entirely kicked the "mad Englishman" persona. He said that his looney director in the The Stunt Man (1980) was inspired by working with David Lean. 3h47m long, including overture and intermission. It seems like a much shorter film. Available on Blu-ray with a superb image.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 0:02:42 GMT
"This movie missed out on an eleventh Oscar nomination, for Best Costume Design, because someone forgot to submit Phyllis Dalton's name for consideration." which calculates to it had TEN Oscar Nominations. It won SEVEN including Picture and Director David Lean Lean with O'Toole and Guinness
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Post by politicidal on Sept 10, 2019 0:12:28 GMT
10/10. They truly really don't make films such as this anymore. Hollywood, feel free to prove me wrong!
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Post by OldAussie on Sept 10, 2019 0:30:40 GMT
favourite movie ever 15/10 has always been my rating. Every actor is great. The visuals get the praise, but the dialogue is fantastic. big screen - 4 viewings tv/dvd/bluray - lost count....over 80 viewings.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 0:31:23 GMT
"Sir Alec Guinness was made up to look like the real Faisal as close as possible. When they were shooting in Jordan, several people who knew the man mistook him for the real thing."
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 0:34:15 GMT
"The moment when T.E. Lawrence, freshly adorned in his new flowing white robes, raises his dagger to look at his reflection was an improvisation by Peter O'Toole. The moment was repeated at the end of the movie in a completely different context when a battered Lawrence looks at his bloodied dagger after the battle for Damascus."
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Post by bravomailer on Sept 10, 2019 1:21:03 GMT
As always... essays, comments, images are encouraged and appreciated This is one of the greatest transition shots in film. There's something like it in Pygmalion which Lean edited. Not sure if he or Asquith came up with it. There's also something like it in Lean's Ryan's Daughter in which a lamp is extinguished and an explosion is heard from out on the shore.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 1:25:19 GMT
bravomailerA video or gif of the whole transition would be cool to see ! <hint hint>
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Post by bravomailer on Sept 10, 2019 1:25:43 GMT
So many wonderful lines but this stands out for me. "If we've been telling lies, you've been telling half-lies. A man who tells lies, like me, merely hides the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it." – Dryden as played by Claude Rains on telling Lawrence about the Sykes-Picot agreement. Some say Dryden is based on Sykes.
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Post by bravomailer on Sept 10, 2019 1:30:11 GMT
bravomailer A video or gif of the whole transition would be cool to see ! <hint hint> You say it, we play it.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 1:36:19 GMT
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 1:40:22 GMT
BRAVO ! bravomailerNow …. can you locate the one where Sharif appears as a tiny dot way off in the distance ?
Your match scene was better than the one I found.
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Post by bravomailer on Sept 10, 2019 1:44:39 GMT
The scene is paralleled later as Lawrence rides back with Gassim.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Sept 10, 2019 1:46:30 GMT
Sherif Ali: There is the railway. And that is the desert. From here until we reach the other side, no water but what we carry with us. For the camels, no water at all. If the camels die, we die. And in twenty days they will start to die. T.E. Lawrence: There's no time to waste, then, is there?
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Post by bravomailer on Sept 10, 2019 1:48:45 GMT
Sherif Ali is a composite but a descendant of one of the figures he's based on is the present-day King of Jordan. Prince Feisel went on tp become King of Iraq.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 10, 2019 6:32:22 GMT
I find I can’t be as comfortable with this film as I was before I started reading more about Lawrence. The film takes Lawrence’s view of these events, set down in Seven Pillars Of Wisdom, as gospel. The one scene which steps outside Lawrence’s view was the one where the Lowell Thomas character questions him.
The only way I can enjoy this film now is to ignore history and accept the story on its own terms.
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Post by vegalyra on Sept 10, 2019 14:05:45 GMT
One of the most superior films in cinematic history. Bar none one of my all time favorite films. I saw it a few years back in the theater after the 4k restoration and it was amazing. Definitely an experience like none other. I've owned it in just about every physical format. Strangely enough it doesn't have a 4k release (yet).
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Post by london777 on Sept 10, 2019 15:50:02 GMT
He says he likes your lemonade. Mistranslation of the Arabic. What he actually said was "I drink your milkshake".
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Post by teleadm on Sept 10, 2019 18:29:27 GMT
Michael Jay who played Farraj. He was born in the United Kingdom into a wealthy family; his mother was British and his father a Brazilian diplomat. He had acted in a few movies since the mid-1950s. Nowdays he and his wife owns 50.05% of the Heineken Beer Co, with an estimated wealth of £3 billion or $4.2 billion.
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