Hulk's speech before sending Captain America back...

Nov 2, 2019 11:34:32 GMT Wolverine10005 said:

Remember... You have to return the stones at the exact moment you got them. Or you're gonna open up a bunch of nasty alternative realities. Clip all the branches.

Such a poor piece of writing.



1- The exact moment??? LMAO. Impossible. At the exact moment, 2023 Post-Battle Captain America would meet the 2023 Pre-Battle Avengers stealing the Stones in the very first place!



2- You're gonna open up what? The branches have been already established, they had formed when the time-travelling Avengers entered into the past. That's it.



3- Clip all the branches? The 2014 timeline is already "compromised". Said that, you cannot delete a reality by restoring the Stones. Time travel already happened.



I think the writers messed it up.

1: That just means he has to make sure the stones never actually leave their reality, meaning do not show up a minute after we left, get there either exactly as they leave, very hard to time btw, or get back to that time before hand or else shit will go sideways.

2: I think this is in reference to what The ancient One said about if any one stone is removed then that reality will start coming apart at the seems, which I would assume means time also, so it would create branching timelines without an inciting incident such as time travel.

3: Yeah this doesn't make sense shit changed, my guess is this is just going back to #2, make sure to get all those issues taken care off, leave every separate timeline whole without loose threads and all.

Not the best explanations in the film itself but that's what I figure they meant.

Nov 2, 2019 12:10:56 GMT Wolverine10005 said:

Hey DAZZ:

Someone on another forum gave me these interesting explanations:

However, in essence, by going to the past to the alt timelines to return the stones (so that the absence of the stones from the alt timelines doesn’t damage the alt timelines), Cap is himself is creating yet additional timelines (remember - the mere presence of the time traveler in the past makes a timeline split). But because he returns them at the exact (or near as) moment they were extracted from, the divergence from the alt timeline is minimal and so new timelines that just branched out from Cap’s presence just merges back with the original alt timelines.

Unless Post Snap#3 or PS3 Cap was always part of those diverging timelines as the PS1 Avengers, otherwise unless he pops in exactly at the moment the PS1 Avengers leave keeping it as 1 continuous timeline without leaving a microsecond for the stones not to be in their reality then Cap is not returning to the same timelines they borrowed the stones from, but alternative ones where an alternative version of themselves borrowed the stones, only other work around is PS3 Cap and the PS1 Avengers all exist in the same time together, we just aren't show PS3 Cap being there.

As it is either you can have multiple copies of the Infinity Stones in existence at one time in some form or the main MCU timeline is fucked up because Thanos destroyed theirs, so shit should be getting pretty freaky, if not even broken down on a molecular level the stones still exist in the main timeline, just not in a way they can be currently used, and bringing copies of every stone to the main timeline would have also caused massive issues.

So an easy work around imo would be Cap off screen always popped into those timelines whilst the PS1 Avengers were still around, they and we just didn't see them.

Bloody time travel.