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Post by scabab on Nov 8, 2019 20:12:42 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2019/11/08/joaquin-phoenixs-joker-becomes-most-profitable-comic-book-movie-everForbes notes that Joker is on track to reach $957 million worldwide Friday, November 8. With a production budget of $62.5 million, that means Joker will have earned 15.3 times what it cost to make. That officially puts it ahead of the previous record-holder, 1994's The Mask. Forbes crunched the numbers for all the most profitable comic book movies, including 1990's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, 1989's Batman, Venom and Deadpool. You can see the full list below: Joker ($957 million gross / $62.5 million budget = 15.31) The Mask ($351 million gross / $23 budget = 15.26) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ($200 million gross / $13.5 million budget = 14.81) Deadpool ($783 million gross / $58 million budget = 13.50) Batman ($411 million gross / $35 budget = 11.74) Venom ($854 million gross / $90 million budget = 9.49) Forbes also points out that Joker is currently on track to cross the billion-dollar mark within the next two weeks. That'll make it only the fourth DC movie to manage that feat, after The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises and Aquaman.
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Post by DarkManX on Nov 8, 2019 21:38:33 GMT
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Post by Caesium137 on Nov 8, 2019 21:41:14 GMT
Great stuff. Although the profit will ve shared I believe and not solely go to WB.
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Post by James on Nov 8, 2019 22:38:12 GMT
That’s pretty great.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Nov 8, 2019 22:39:13 GMT
$62.5 million budget???
It has been extensively reported it was 55 million dollars in the recent past...
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Post by thenolan on Nov 9, 2019 8:49:10 GMT
about time.
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Post by dazz on Nov 9, 2019 10:45:50 GMT
$62.5 million budget??? It has been extensively reported it was 55 million dollars in the recent past... But also has been reported before this at having cost more, this is from a Deadline article from Oct.
But still that's a whole lot of money Joker has raked in, but fucking hell WB really reduced their "risk" on a at most $70m movie by giving away half the return? and it's going to cost them hundreds of millions of dollars? sweet jesus these people make me laugh.
The $55m comes from an article which came out before the film began shooting, so it costing slightly more but not being as widely reported makes sense, that's a relatively low bump in the budget, probably one they got when the execs saw some of the movie and got more behind it I guess, unless the budget "balloons" it rarely gets reported on because a slight bump isn't much of a story I guess.
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Post by nostromo on Nov 9, 2019 10:53:06 GMT
Hopefully they will make more movies like Joker now, instead of your average cookie cutter comic book world nonsense.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Nov 9, 2019 12:02:58 GMT
$62.5 million budget??? It has been extensively reported it was 55 million dollars in the recent past... But also has been reported before this at having cost more, this is from a Deadline article from Oct.
But still that's a whole lot of money Joker has raked in, but fucking hell WB really reduced their "risk" on a at most $70m movie by giving away half the return? and it's going to cost them hundreds of millions of dollars? sweet jesus these people make me laugh.
The $55m comes from an article which came out before the film began shooting, so it costing slightly more but not being as widely reported makes sense, that's a relatively low bump in the budget, probably one they got when the execs saw some of the movie and got more behind it I guess, unless the budget "balloons" it rarely gets reported on because a slight bump isn't much of a story I guess.
Yeah, in truth early reports claimed that it costed 50, not even 55 LOL. How much did they pay De Niro?
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Post by dazz on Nov 9, 2019 12:40:51 GMT
But also has been reported before this at having cost more, this is from a Deadline article from Oct.
But still that's a whole lot of money Joker has raked in, but fucking hell WB really reduced their "risk" on a at most $70m movie by giving away half the return? and it's going to cost them hundreds of millions of dollars? sweet jesus these people make me laugh.
The $55m comes from an article which came out before the film began shooting, so it costing slightly more but not being as widely reported makes sense, that's a relatively low bump in the budget, probably one they got when the execs saw some of the movie and got more behind it I guess, unless the budget "balloons" it rarely gets reported on because a slight bump isn't much of a story I guess.
Yeah, in truth early reports claimed that it costed 50, not even 55 LOL. How much did they pay De Niro? The THR article where the $55m number came from was from I think pre Oct 2018 but yeah $50m I think was a rough guess some thought the movie would cost when it was being vaguely talked about as just a mid budget movie, but that was in a range like between $50-70m, then the $55m got put out there by THR.
As for De Niro who knows, actually who knows for Phoenix either, though he is said to have gotten paid $4.5m for the movie he and De Niro could have negotiated points in the movie which if they did will net them a fucking killing with this, DiCaprio did that for Wolf Of Wall Street and he ended up making over $20m for that, and that was a $150m production budget film that grossed less than $400m, imagine if De Niro & Phoenix have the same type of deal, even with marketing Joker is being said to have cost only $120m and it's about to break $1b in the box office, if they were shrewd enough to get themselves some points in the flick this could be a $50m payday easy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 14:50:43 GMT
Holy shit
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Post by Prime etc. on Nov 9, 2019 15:24:16 GMT
Hollywood Accounting aka "we lie about business." The question is whether this is a kind of virtue signaling announcement as Black Panther was claimed to be. The gist of this is some kind of "down with the system white man fail" point isn't it so perhaps they are banging the tambourine ever so loudly to make sure people don't miss it. How many times we see these claims that everyone loves a movie and yet no one seems enthusiastic about it. A remake of Taxi Driver with a comic book name being that popular--really? Where?
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 11, 2019 23:15:47 GMT
Hopefully they will make more movies like Joker now, instead of your average cookie cutter comic book world nonsense. That kind of mentality is what resulted in Fant4stic. The method that was applied to Joker doesn't work with every single comic book properties.
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Post by nostromo on Nov 12, 2019 9:17:17 GMT
Hopefully they will make more movies like Joker now, instead of your average cookie cutter comic book world nonsense. That kind of mentality is what resulted in Fant4stic. The method that was applied to Joker doesn't work with every single comic book properties. That's why I said "more", not "all".
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Post by Caesium137 on Nov 12, 2019 9:45:02 GMT
The angle should be to make more DC black label, R-rated movies. Not necessarily in the subject matter of Joker, but more in the style.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 22, 2019 0:30:45 GMT
Great stuff. Although the profit will ve shared I believe and not solely go to WB. Yeah just saw a what culture video that said WB hedged there bets with 2 different co-financiers Bron Studios and Village Roadshow. WB brought them in to absorb some of the Exposure of the Budget for share of the profits. Some WB Execs were afraid of some backlash either due to the violence or subject matter. Which proves once again how timid and insane executives can be.
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Post by dazz on Nov 22, 2019 0:48:48 GMT
Great stuff. Although the profit will ve shared I believe and not solely go to WB. Yeah just saw a what culture video that said WB hedged there bets with 2 different co-financiers Bron Studios and Village Roadshow. WB brought them in to absorb some of the Exposure of the Budget for share of the profits. Some WB Execs were afraid of some backlash either due to the violence or subject matter. Which proves once again how timid and insane executives can be. Stupid is the word I would use, $60m is nothing for WB, to save on $30m they just gave away most likely around $250m in box office profit alone, yet these studios will gladly spend $350m or so on a Tom Cruise project which will at minimum require a $700m box office return, from a guy whose peak box office at that time was just under $695m which was 6 years previous at the time, like what sort of bet is that? But WB couldn't nut up and risk that $30m they sold half the movie to others for?
IDIOTS!!!
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 22, 2019 0:56:08 GMT
Yeah just saw a what culture video that said WB hedged there bets with 2 different co-financiers Bron Studios and Village Roadshow. WB brought them in to absorb some of the Exposure of the Budget for share of the profits. Some WB Execs were afraid of some backlash either due to the violence or subject matter. Which proves once again how timid and insane executives can be. Stupid is the word I would use, $60m is nothing for WB, to save on $30m they just gave away most likely around $250m in box office profit alone, yet these studios will gladly spend $350m or so on a Tom Cruise project which will at minimum require a $700m box office return, from a guy whose peak box office at that time was just under $695m which was 6 years previous at the time, like what sort of bet is that? But WB couldn't nut up and risk that $30m they sold half the movie to others for?
IDIOTS!!!
I was going to use the R-Word myself but held myself in check. You are right with how much they spend on movies 60m is nothing. Hell that's a 3rd to 4th of the Marketing Budget of Blockbusters.
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Post by sostie on Nov 22, 2019 1:02:54 GMT
The most profitable in relation to budget...but not actually the most profitable
Joker BO $1,022,682,942 - Budget $ 62,500,000 Profit $ 960,182,942
Endgame BO $2,797,800,564 - Budget $ 356,000,000 Profit $2,441,800,564
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Post by sostie on Nov 22, 2019 1:15:10 GMT
Great stuff. Although the profit will ve shared I believe and not solely go to WB. Village Roadshow and Bron Studios each paid for 25% of the budget
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