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Post by Skaathar on Nov 19, 2019 19:51:50 GMT
Before Joss Whedon fumbled AoU, he was supposed to be THE Avengers director, which meant he would have eventually been the director in charge of IW and Endgame. How would these two movies look had he been director?
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Nov 19, 2019 20:56:20 GMT
Before Joss Whedon fumbled AoU, he was supposed to be THE Avengers director, which meant he would have eventually been the director in charge of IW and Endgame. How would these two movies look had he been director? He didn't fumble AoU, Perlmutter was being an ass on that shoot and Whedon was able to deliver the movie anyway. And as unpopular as this might be, it's every bit as good and maybe even a bit better than the original. As far as what IW and Endgame might have been like, I'd venture to guess that both Hulk and Thor wouldn't have been stripped of their powers the way the Russos handled them. Whedon also had a knack for framing battle shots better, so there likely would have been an epic shot in the final battle similar to the iconic shot of the Avengers circleed in NYC, and the final battle with Ultron inside the building. And anyone who has seen Season 6 of Buffy or the entire series of Angel knows Whedon can go dark.
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Post by James on Nov 19, 2019 20:58:25 GMT
He’d probably make it a bit less emotional and just have Infinity War be one whole movie with the two films combined to make for a trilogy.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 19, 2019 21:12:51 GMT
He’d probably make it a bit less emotional and just have Infinity War be one whole movie with the two films combined to make for a trilogy. Something like that would not have been his call to make. Marvel already had a fourth Avengers movie scheduled for 2019. They wouldn’t have let Whedon toss those plans aside.
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Post by hobowar on Nov 19, 2019 21:28:44 GMT
They dialogue would have been light years better and the third act would have had the Avengers saving civilians and acting like superheroes. Thanos and his men would have been a lot less boring and their motivation would have probably made sense. The Russo's were the worst possible choice to direct in my opinion.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 19, 2019 21:36:11 GMT
Captain America: "Thanos has killed off half the life in the Universe"
Iron Man: "Half off? That's like a Presidents Day Mattress Sale!"
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Post by James on Nov 19, 2019 22:37:32 GMT
He’d probably make it a bit less emotional and just have Infinity War be one whole movie with the two films combined to make for a trilogy. Something like that would not have been his call to make. Marvel already had a fourth Avengers movie scheduled for 2019. They wouldn’t have let Whedon toss those plans aside. Egh, fair enough.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 19, 2019 22:45:31 GMT
I guess no Fat Thor.
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Post by Archelaus on Nov 19, 2019 23:01:06 GMT
The problem is that Joss Whedon has openly stated he didn't know what to do with Thanos. I suppose with help from the producers and Kevin Fiege, Thanos would have been more ominous. Whedon definitely would have handled the Hulk's story arc a lot better than the Russos did since he seemed to understand the character better. I'm not sure if he would have continued the Hulk-Black Widow romance arc, which I'm glad the Russos dropped. We probably wouldn't seen fat Thor.
The normal Whedon tropes like the snappy one-liners and comic book-inspired staging would have been there.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 20, 2019 0:09:13 GMT
The problem is that Joss Whedon has openly stated he didn't know what to do with Thanos. I suppose with help from the producers and Kevin Fiege, Thanos would have been more ominous. Whedon definitely would have handled the Hulk's story arc a lot better than the Russos did since he seemed to understand the character better. I'm not sure if he would have continued the Hulk-Black Widow romance arc, which I'm glad the Russos dropped. We probably wouldn't seen fat Thor. The normal Whedon tropes like the snappy one-liners and comic book-inspired staging would have been there. Really? It takes a big person to admit that. I think it's fair to say the Russos knocked it out of the park with Thanos.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 20, 2019 0:32:16 GMT
The problem is that Joss Whedon has openly stated he didn't know what to do with Thanos. I suppose with help from the producers and Kevin Fiege, Thanos would have been more ominous. Whedon definitely would have handled the Hulk's story arc a lot better than the Russos did since he seemed to understand the character better. I'm not sure if he would have continued the Hulk-Black Widow romance arc, which I'm glad the Russos dropped. We probably wouldn't seen fat Thor. The normal Whedon tropes like the snappy one-liners and comic book-inspired staging would have been there. Really? It takes a big person to admit that. I think it's fair to say the Russos knocked it out of the park with Thanos. I don't believe that's what Whedon meant. I think what he meant was that he didn't know what was going to happen to Thanos at the time he included him in a post credits in Avengers. He didn't know how Thanos was eventually going to tie-in to their universe. That's understandable since that was very early in the MCU. The Russos wouldn't have known what to do with Thanos at that point either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 17:56:15 GMT
Captain America: "Thanos has killed off half the life in the Universe" Iron Man: "Half off? That's like a Presidents Day Mattress Sale!" KA-POW!!!!!!@!!
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 24, 2019 1:40:32 GMT
The problem is that Joss Whedon has openly stated he didn't know what to do with Thanos. I suppose with help from the producers and Kevin Fiege, Thanos would have been more ominous. Whedon definitely would have handled the Hulk's story arc a lot better than the Russos did since he seemed to understand the character better. I'm not sure if he would have continued the Hulk-Black Widow romance arc, which I'm glad the Russos dropped. We probably wouldn't seen fat Thor. The normal Whedon tropes like the snappy one-liners and comic book-inspired staging would have been there. The Black Widow/Hulk arc is still there. It's just not as in your face as it was in the 1st 2 Avengers. It's there in Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame. I think they just got to a point where they have moved on from being a couple at the end of AoU.
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Post by thenolan on Nov 24, 2019 5:56:34 GMT
Before Joss Whedon fumbled AoU, he was supposed to be THE Avengers director, which meant he would have eventually been the director in charge of IW and Endgame. How would these two movies look had he been director? Did he fumble AOU? Ike wanted a more childish film, whedon disagreed,
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Post by sostie on Nov 24, 2019 11:45:07 GMT
Before Joss Whedon fumbled AoU, he was supposed to be THE Avengers director, which meant he would have eventually been the director in charge of IW and Endgame. How would these two movies look had he been director? Did he fumble AOU? Ike wanted a more childish film, whedon disagreed, You're a bit obsessed with all things kiddie and children aren't you
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Post by Archelaus on Nov 24, 2019 20:36:02 GMT
The problem is that Joss Whedon has openly stated he didn't know what to do with Thanos. I suppose with help from the producers and Kevin Fiege, Thanos would have been more ominous. Whedon definitely would have handled the Hulk's story arc a lot better than the Russos did since he seemed to understand the character better. I'm not sure if he would have continued the Hulk-Black Widow romance arc, which I'm glad the Russos dropped. We probably wouldn't seen fat Thor. The normal Whedon tropes like the snappy one-liners and comic book-inspired staging would have been there. The Black Widow/Hulk arc is still there. It's just not as in your face as it was in the 1st 2 Avengers. It's there in Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame. I think they just got to a point where they have moved on from being a couple at the end of AoU. Yeah, it's still there, and the screenwriters stated they tried to work it into the scripts for Infinity War and Endgame. The scene of Black Widow's reaction to seeing Bruce for the first time in three years and Hulk throwing a chair in anger to her death is all what we got. However, Whedon works differently than Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, but I like to think he would have gave it more closure.
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Post by scabab on Nov 25, 2019 15:11:01 GMT
Probably less jokey overall but otherwise I'd have no idea.
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