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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 21, 2017 6:53:53 GMT
No, I don't believe magic exists (shocker, I know). Unless you're talking about like stage magicians doing tricks. I've seen that. They like to be called illusionists now.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 21, 2017 9:11:21 GMT
[1] They never the less were very keen to keep religion and state entirely separate, and for good reason Religions don't take money by force, only government does that in the United States. I don't think the Founding Fathers were worried about the church's potential much from a financial standpoint. This is certainly true of America, and not always to good effect. The anti-miscegenation laws, for instance, were often justified by reference to scripture. And I am sure the history of Salem testifies to just how religion can make laws which calm and provide for a population. Yes; I remember how you argued with dictionaries with this one. And lost. But if Christianity is not a religion, then what is it? And shouldn't you tell them?
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Post by captainbryce on Apr 21, 2017 10:40:26 GMT
Are you saying you were born with a belief in God? That it comes solely from inside you, with no external reason for the belief? No, I'm not saying that. Then what do you mean by your reasons for believing are innate?
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 21, 2017 12:14:36 GMT
But if Christianity is not a religion, then what is it? And shouldn't you tell them? I've tried to tell you all several times that a dictionary is not a connection to reality, it is a set of labels for things you might (or might not) encounter in reality. You should never use dictionary definitions to argue for or against any properties found in reality. I've been doing this for years and never once used the label to prove the essence.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 21, 2017 12:18:32 GMT
But if Christianity is not a religion, then what is it? And shouldn't you tell them? I've tried to tell you all several times that a dictionary is not a connection to reality, it is a set of labels for things you might (or might not) encounter in reality. You should never use dictionary definitions to argue for or against any properties found in reality. I've been doing this for years and never once used the label to prove the essence. I think you meant to write above "I've tried to make out to you all several times... ".
But, nonetheless I am certainly interested that you might have your own form of reality. It would certainly explain a lot.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Apr 21, 2017 12:22:05 GMT
But if Christianity is not a religion, then what is it? And shouldn't you tell them? I've tried to tell you all several times that a dictionary is not a connection to reality, it is a set of labels for things you might (or might not) encounter in reality. You should never use dictionary definitions to argue for or against any properties found in reality. I've been doing this for years and never once used the label to prove the essence. You didn't answer the question Arlon. If it's not a religion, what is it?
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 21, 2017 12:37:46 GMT
I've tried to tell you all several times that a dictionary is not a connection to reality, it is a set of labels for things you might (or might not) encounter in reality. You should never use dictionary definitions to argue for or against any properties found in reality. I've been doing this for years and never once used the label to prove the essence. I think you meant to write above "I've tried to make out to you all several times... ".
But, nonetheless I am certainly interested that you might have your own form of reality. It would certainly explain a lot.
It isn't "my" reality or "my" rule. It's what I learned in debate class and you did not -- if you even attended a debate class ever. Dictionaries are merely collections of labels and all definitions are arbitrary. People who fail to distinguish labels from reality are a serious problem. Haven't you noticed? Or are you too much one of them yourself to notice?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Apr 21, 2017 12:45:14 GMT
I think you meant to write above "I've tried to make out to you all several times... ".
But, nonetheless I am certainly interested that you might have your own form of reality. It would certainly explain a lot.
It isn't "my" reality or "my" rule. It's what I learned in debate class and you did not -- if you even attended a debate class ever. Dictionaries are merely collections of labels and all definitions are arbitrary. People who fail to distinguish labels from reality are a serious problem. Haven't you noticed? Or are you too much one of them yourself to notice? Debate class is for losers who need their ego boosted by arguing about something. You can attempt to debate me on this issue, but I will defer.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 21, 2017 12:45:27 GMT
I've tried to tell you all several times that a dictionary is not a connection to reality, it is a set of labels for things you might (or might not) encounter in reality. You should never use dictionary definitions to argue for or against any properties found in reality. I've been doing this for years and never once used the label to prove the essence. You didn't answer the question Arlon. If it's not a religion, what is it? Christianity is an "outreach" or an "invitation," some might say a "trick," to get people who have no traditions at all (or "Gentiles") into the building where they can be exposed to religious traditions. It often leads to the "religion" of the Jews, but it does at times fail to become any religion at all, especially lately.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Apr 21, 2017 12:46:48 GMT
You didn't answer the question Arlon. If it's not a religion, what is it? Christianity is an "outreach" or an "invitation," some might say a "trick," to get people who have no traditions at all (or "Gentiles") into the building where they can be exposed to religious traditions. It often leads to the "religion" of the Jews, but it does at times fail to become any religion at all, especially lately. So religion is basically an outreach or invitation to be tricked? I think you nailed it bro.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 21, 2017 12:56:43 GMT
It isn't "my" reality or "my" rule. Oh, I think it is Arlon. After all, no one else has owned up to having it. Is that class the place where you argued with dictionaries and won? Did you feel it necessary to argue with your final class marks as well afterwards? All I can say Arlon, is that I can distinguish your reality from that which everyone lives in. And I can certainly give you a label if you want.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 21, 2017 13:02:23 GMT
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 21, 2017 13:03:10 GMT
It isn't "my" reality or "my" rule. Oh, I think it is Arlon. After all, no one else has owned up to having it. Is that class the place where you argued with dictionaries and won? Did you feel it necessary to argue with your final class marks as well afterwards? All I can say Arlon, is that I can distinguish your reality from that which everyone lives in. And I can certainly give you a label if you want. I have real world documentation. You have a computer discussion board made up mostly of outcasts. That you can't recognize the truth I bring you and are waiting for someone "else" to verify it for you illustrates how your brain works or at least mimics working. You copy what you think the majority believes. I would grant there is some "majority" out there that hold the views you do. They got them the same way you did, by copying.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Apr 21, 2017 13:13:39 GMT
I have real world documentation. As well as the pretend stuff? I also have you and your reality, discussion made up mostly of bombasts. Should I hold my breath? Not everyone has the advantage of being so original as you. I guess it is a cross we others have to bear, from class to grave.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 21, 2017 15:04:41 GMT
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Post by general313 on Apr 21, 2017 15:18:26 GMT
But if Christianity is not a religion, then what is it? And shouldn't you tell them? I've tried to tell you all several times that a dictionary is not a connection to reality, it is a set of labels for things you might (or might not) encounter in reality. You should never use dictionary definitions to argue for or against any properties found in reality. I've been doing this for years and never once used the label to prove the essence. Are encyclopedias also disconnected from "reality"? Is anything connected to this "reality"? Here's the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on Christianity: Christianity[note 1] is a Abrahamic monotheistic[1] religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, who serves as the focal point for the religion.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 21, 2017 16:24:31 GMT
Then what do you mean by your reasons for believing are innate? You wouldn't understand.
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Apr 21, 2017 16:33:35 GMT
Then what do you mean by your reasons for believing are innate? You wouldn't understand. Why did you report me ErJen?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 21, 2017 16:36:49 GMT
Why did you report me ErJen? What makes you think you have been reported? Did you get a red warning message or something?
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Apr 21, 2017 16:38:21 GMT
Why did you report me ErJen? What makes you think you have been reported? Did you get a red warning message or something? Don't deflect ErJen, why did you report the post I wrote to Molar?
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