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Post by THawk on Dec 10, 2019 9:34:47 GMT
At first I was interested in the previews where Cavill talks about what a deep character we should be expecting, but then I read about the game and its all about grotesque and sadistic violence and orgies, brothels etc. Nc 17 stuff, Game of Thrones and Spartacua Starz fair which I have 0 interest in, with second hand characters and story.
And the show creators have promised to keep such content in. So I suppose that should answer my question. So is this the main appeal for the show? More fantasy blood and nudity? People just can't get enough?
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Post by politicidal on Dec 10, 2019 17:45:13 GMT
I suppose not. Something is going to try to assume GoT's place now it's ended.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 10, 2019 23:31:40 GMT
At first I was interested in the previews where Cavill talks about what a deep character we should be expecting, but then I read about the game and its all about grotesque and sadistic violence and orgies, brothels etc. Nc 17 stuff, Game of Thrones and Spartacua Starz fair which I have 0 interest in, with second hand characters and story. And the show creators have promised to keep such content in. So I suppose that should answer my question. So is this the main appeal for the show? More fantasy blood and nudity? People just can't get enough? Where did you read that at? The Witcher 3 (the one I've played and that made the game series famous) is very much a classic high fantasy RPG where characterization and player choice is paramount. The game definitely deals with mature themes in a serious and often ambiguous/ambivalent way (the major one is Geralt's search for/relationship with his daughter, Ciri). Yes, there's sex and violence, but not a super-gratuitous amount. There was one section set in a brothel and another in a bathhouse, but these were rather small parts of an enormous game set in a vast and extremely varied world. I don't even remember anything that was really grotesque in terms of violence; perhaps the most disturbing thing was a possessed fetus during the first section's main quest.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 11, 2019 0:09:24 GMT
At first I was interested in the previews where Cavill talks about what a deep character we should be expecting, but then I read about the game and its all about grotesque and sadistic violence and orgies, brothels etc. Nc 17 stuff, Game of Thrones and Spartacua Starz fair which I have 0 interest in, with second hand characters and story. And the show creators have promised to keep such content in. So I suppose that should answer my question. So is this the main appeal for the show? More fantasy blood and nudity? People just can't get enough? Where did you read that at? The Witcher 3 (the one I've played and that made the game series famous) is very much a classic high fantasy RPG where characterization and player choice is paramount. The game definitely deals with mature themes in a serious and often ambiguous/ambivalent way (the major one is Geralt's search for/relationship with his daughter, Ciri). Yes, there's sex and violence, but not a super-gratuitous amount. There was one section set in a brothel and another in a bathhouse, but these were rather small parts of an enormous game set in a vast and extremely varied world. I don't even remember anything that was really grotesque in terms of violence; perhaps the most disturbing thing was a possessed fetus during the first section's main quest. I think he’s referring to the upcoming TV series about to be released on Netflix, not the games.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Dec 11, 2019 0:10:37 GMT
I’m going to say yes, but I doubt they take it as far as GoT. It looks almost the exact same visually, so they’re certainly going for a similar look at the very least.
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Post by alejandro on Dec 11, 2019 4:00:07 GMT
I like Twitcher 3 but I don't really think it amounts to much of substance. There are some overarching themes to the setting and story but they feel pretty vague and general: there's a broad anti-bigotry statement where often the human beings are as monstrous as the monsters they hire Witchers to kill, where elves, witches, witchers and whatnot are marginalized and persecuted and whatnot... But again, it's all done in a fashion that feels very on the nose and very much like dressing. The game at the end the day does feel a bit more like a typical power fantasy with lots of sex and monster hunting and whatnot, featuring a handsomely bruised man with yet another case of throat cancer who proves to be irresistible to every woman he encounters, which unless the story requires otherwise often seems straight out of a Playboy shoot and whatnot. I hear earlier games are even worse about all of this, going as far as including a collectible set where you gain cards based on the women you get the screw and so on, which is thankfully not something they repeated in future versions. This last bit of grotesque objectification aside, I'm okay with all of this, it's all very fun escapism with just enough of a 'message' to give the story some guidance or a semblance of a unifying thread, but at the same time I can't say I was ever particularly invested in this world or story the way I've been with other superior and more ideas-driven RPGs the likes Obsidian or Black Isle would make (see Planescape: Torment, Pillars of Eternity, Mask of the Betrayer, New Vegas as some examples).
Similarly it remains to be seen how the series tackles the books or setting and if they make of it something more than what the games were - but at least initially I'm under the impression Game of Thrones source material had much more going for it thematically, and for whatever faults you may find in the series the focus was quite certainly in those ideas. Also what I've seen of the Netflix series leaves a bit to be desired, it all reminds me a bit too much of mid-budget January fantasy fare like Seventh Son or Eragon. I have very low expectations myself.
All this said, to answer the question at the top of the thread, it *features* violence and sex but it *isn't about* either.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 11, 2019 12:45:39 GMT
Where did you read that at? The Witcher 3 (the one I've played and that made the game series famous) is very much a classic high fantasy RPG where characterization and player choice is paramount. The game definitely deals with mature themes in a serious and often ambiguous/ambivalent way (the major one is Geralt's search for/relationship with his daughter, Ciri). Yes, there's sex and violence, but not a super-gratuitous amount. There was one section set in a brothel and another in a bathhouse, but these were rather small parts of an enormous game set in a vast and extremely varied world. I don't even remember anything that was really grotesque in terms of violence; perhaps the most disturbing thing was a possessed fetus during the first section's main quest. I think he’s referring to the upcoming TV series about to be released on Netflix, not the games. The TV series is based on the game, and he specifically said he'd read that about the game.
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Post by kuatorises on Dec 11, 2019 12:58:45 GMT
At first I was interested in the previews where Cavill talks about what a deep character we should be expecting, but then I read about the game and its all about grotesque and sadistic violence and orgies, brothels etc. Nc 17 stuff, Game of Thrones and Spartacua Starz fair which I have 0 interest in, with second hand characters and story. And the show creators have promised to keep such content in. So I suppose that should answer my question. So is this the main appeal for the show? More fantasy blood and nudity? People just can't get enough? I watched the entire first season of GoT. I can't believe that show is popular. It's eye-rollingly nauseating. When everything is so incredibly bloody and sexual, it's just not a big deal after about 20 minutes. Nothing is tense or dramatic in that show, because someone is getting raped or blood is squirting everywhere every few minutes.
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Post by THawk on Dec 11, 2019 19:08:42 GMT
At first I was interested in the previews where Cavill talks about what a deep character we should be expecting, but then I read about the game and its all about grotesque and sadistic violence and orgies, brothels etc. Nc 17 stuff, Game of Thrones and Spartacua Starz fair which I have 0 interest in, with second hand characters and story. And the show creators have promised to keep such content in. So I suppose that should answer my question. So is this the main appeal for the show? More fantasy blood and nudity? People just can't get enough? Where did you read that at? The Witcher 3 (the one I've played and that made the game series famous) is very much a classic high fantasy RPG where characterization and player choice is paramount. The game definitely deals with mature themes in a serious and often ambiguous/ambivalent way (the major one is Geralt's search for/relationship with his daughter, Ciri). Yes, there's sex and violence, but not a super-gratuitous amount. There was one section set in a brothel and another in a bathhouse, but these were rather small parts of an enormous game set in a vast and extremely varied world. I don't even remember anything that was really grotesque in terms of violence; perhaps the most disturbing thing was a possessed fetus during the first section's main quest. Just looking at the gore, when translated to TV, would be quite extreme: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCg4Ys-OoI
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 11, 2019 20:18:53 GMT
Where did you read that at? The Witcher 3 (the one I've played and that made the game series famous) is very much a classic high fantasy RPG where characterization and player choice is paramount. The game definitely deals with mature themes in a serious and often ambiguous/ambivalent way (the major one is Geralt's search for/relationship with his daughter, Ciri). Yes, there's sex and violence, but not a super-gratuitous amount. There was one section set in a brothel and another in a bathhouse, but these were rather small parts of an enormous game set in a vast and extremely varied world. I don't even remember anything that was really grotesque in terms of violence; perhaps the most disturbing thing was a possessed fetus during the first section's main quest. Just looking at the gore, when translated to TV, would be quite extreme: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCg4Ys-OoI Those are special "finishers" that are only available under certain conditions; the majority of the game is not like that, and I doubt they'll keep those more extreme moments in the TV show. BTW, the game takes over 200 hours to complete, and you found a 2 minute montage of the goriest parts. That's literally 0.017% of the game.
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Post by papamihel on Dec 20, 2019 11:06:58 GMT
The books are about how no one is good or bad by default - you need to make a choice every minute or every day. The series... I fear it will be about white male humans oppressing everyone else.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 21, 2019 1:14:59 GMT
This already got a second season?
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