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Post by onethreetwo on Jan 4, 2020 23:33:09 GMT
Would you say all three Lord of the Rings movies are masterpieces of cinema on their own? Or only as a trilogy as a whole?
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Post by ck100 on Jan 4, 2020 23:39:34 GMT
Well I don't know if I'd say masterpieces, but all three are of high quality with few flaws.
Didn't all three movies at the very least get nominated for Best Picture? That right there should tell you something about their individual quality.
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Post by Catman on Jan 4, 2020 23:44:00 GMT
No.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 23:45:08 GMT
Great movies, none of which I'd consider to be a masterpiece though.
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 5, 2020 0:37:36 GMT
No, not even close. they are pretty average movies as like I always say a movies true worth boils down to whether you want to re-watch it from time-to-time as the years pass or not. the LOTR trilogy are not movies ill re-watch which makes them a Thumbs Down as that's my basic test to see whether a movie is a Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down is whether I want to re-watch them here and there or not. but anyways, I rarely use the word 'masterpiece' in relation to a movie as I think some people use that word too often and it loses it's intended effect because of it. NOTE: one movie ill call a masterpiece is... Road to Perdition (2002) as it blends visuals/score/moments very well. with all of that said... sure, no one can question the LOTR trilogy being strong in the $$$ dept though (and I am sure they will be remembered for the foreseeable future) and from my best guesstimate of the general public is they think they are at least solid if not pretty strong movies and some people might praise them. but... I wonder how many who used to praise them back around the time they where new, still do praise them? ; because while nostalgia can be good and all, if they honestly still don't like those movies to a higher degree today, then they are not that great for them etc. because there used to be some movies I used to praise or semi-praise that no longer hold up and I no longer praise them as a result. because like I always say a movies true worth is whether it holds up on re-watches from time-to-time as the years pass or not as those that remain solid, my general praise of them stays solid. those that fail to hold up to a certain standard I no longer praise etc. ck100Personally I would not give too much weight to what Oscars (and the like) say is good as they often nominate based on politics more than anything else, especially lately. NOTE: in those particular movies (LOTR trilogy) case, it was probably not politics though. but it almost seems like every now and then they just toss in some big budget stuff to kiss up to the public. but in general I think they are largely disconnected with the common-ish person, especially lately. speaking for myself... every now and then they(Oscars etc) select solid movies among the 'Best Picture' types but it's not all that often and is getting worse lately as they are more concerned with politics than movie quality and ones enjoyment of watching it which should be paramount.
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Post by gw on Jan 5, 2020 1:56:14 GMT
I would say so. There are a couple notable flaws like the shield from the Uruk Hai piercing Aragorn's neck and the cranes visible in the theatrical version of Return of the King. Still, I have yet to see a fantasy movie that's quite as good, at least for me. The Wizard of Oz, Powell and Pressburger's The Thief of Baghdad and Pan's Labyrinth are the closest I've seen but even those aren't quite as good.
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Post by James on Jan 5, 2020 2:29:22 GMT
None are really masterpieces per se, but if they were Iโd say more as a whole trilogy. Two Towers is very good but not quite on the same level as the 2 movies sandwiching it.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 5, 2020 2:30:31 GMT
They are all good movies
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Post by millar70 on Jan 5, 2020 2:34:34 GMT
The whole thing is a masterpiece.
As for the individual films, Fellowship of the Ring and Return of the King are top-level. The Two Towers falls a bit short of the others, but is still a great film.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 5, 2020 2:57:07 GMT
The whole thing is a masterpiece. As for the individual films, Fellowship of the Ring and Return of the King are top-level. The Two Towers falls a bit short of the others, but is still a great film. Agreed!
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 5, 2020 3:02:14 GMT
FOTR is a masterpiece. The LOTR trilogy is a masterpiece.
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Post by onethreetwo on Jan 5, 2020 3:06:40 GMT
FOTR is a masterpiece. The LOTR trilogy is a masterpiece. This is pretty much where I land as well. I don't think you can deny Fellowship is a masterpiece. The other two are debatable. And as a whole, the trilogy is maybe the most impressive thing ever put on film.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jan 5, 2020 4:03:41 GMT
No. Im not a fan.
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Post by Archelaus on Jan 5, 2020 4:18:20 GMT
When they come together as a trilogy, they are a masterpiece. Even if it were a standalone, Fellowship of the Ring is a near masterpiece.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jan 5, 2020 4:19:16 GMT
None are masterpieces.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 5, 2020 4:54:45 GMT
All three are masterpieces.
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Post by movielover on Jan 5, 2020 5:25:28 GMT
I only consider The Fellowship of the Ring to be a masterpiece. The other two are just good movies to me.
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Post by gljbradley on Jan 5, 2020 5:54:45 GMT
To me, absolutely!
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 5, 2020 6:42:29 GMT
To be honest, I hated "The Hobbit" cartoon from over 30 years ago, and nothing about the live action trailers made me interested in seeing the films...
But, I wanted to be able to join in on the discussions, that my friends and coworkers were having, because they thought they were great films... And I didn't want to be "left out".
About ten years ago, I bought the trilogy on DVD, and I eventually planned to watch them... But, I never get around to watching them... AND People quit talking about them too...
"Masterpieces"?
Since, after almost 10 years, I still have no desire to watch films that I have already paid for, which are still sitting on the bottom of my "To Watch" pile, and all I have to do is pop them into my DVD player to watch them...
Then I would have to say, in my opinion... NO, they are not "Masterpieces".
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Post by darkpast on Jan 5, 2020 6:51:47 GMT
no, i don't care for them, i'm not big on fantasy besides Star Wars
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