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Post by snsurone on Jan 25, 2020 16:55:09 GMT
It seems that one of the staples of motion pictures and television is women screaming at anything.
Of course, sometimes it's justified, such as Fay Wray's screaming at King Kong and the prehistoric beasts on Skull Island.
But more often than not, it's simply female hysteria, such as when a woman sees a dead body.
IMO, this is just an example of the mysoginy and sexism that has permeated Hollywood since its beginning.
Same with much of the rest of the US, which had long prevented women from holding important positions in business and government.
Are there any examples of men howling in fear at the sight of dead people or other such things?
And are there examples of women keeping their cool in such instances?
Perhaps one: Marge Gunderson in Fargo.
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Post by mattgarth on Jan 25, 2020 17:13:50 GMT
Would silent male screams count? -- Michael Corleone in GODFATHER 3
Then there's Daniel Stern in HOME ALONE when the spider gets dropped on his face
Dustin Hoffman in MARATHON MAN when brother Roy Scheider staggers in, stabbed
Christopher Reeve in SUPERMAN discovering Lois Lane's body
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 25, 2020 17:34:58 GMT
Would silent male screams count? Did Rod Steiger deliver the first one (The Pawnbroker)? 
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 25, 2020 18:28:28 GMT
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Post by teleadm on Jan 25, 2020 19:46:57 GMT
Since the subject changed maybe you should change the subject, so we don't get too many women scared of insects yelling hysterically and husbands, in 1950s fashion smoking a pipe, fixes things with "Radar" or something similiar
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Post by fangirl1975 on Jan 25, 2020 20:05:34 GMT
Sean Penn's character in Mystic River becomes distraught when his daughter's body is discovered. An altar boy screams himself mute when a victim of Dracula falls out of a bell at the beginning of Dracula Has Risen From The Grave. Clarice was a consummate professional when faced with a "Buffalo Bill" victim in The Silence Of The Lambs.
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 25, 2020 20:18:57 GMT
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 25, 2020 20:34:40 GMT
I think it had much to do with the introduction of sound and the fact that a woman's scream sounded more interesting than a man's and it could be used to punctuate certain sequences (although it could also be used excessively).
In Raiders of the Lost Ark when Marion is trapped with the mummies-she screams at the end--now, up to that point she didn't seem the type to do it so either it was done to punctuate the sound buildup in the tomb and or so it indicated she was becoming more feminine as the film progressed?
Another example where a woman screamed for no good reason is Leslie-Anne Down in SPHINX. She screams just about every minute.
Suzy Kendall's scream is unusual--so much so that she is listed as "special guest screamer" in the credits for Berberian Sound Studio.
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Post by mattgarth on Jan 25, 2020 21:08:19 GMT
Evelyn Ankers was the 'Queen of Scream' in multiple Universal horror films in the early 1940s, beginning with THE WOLF MAN.
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 25, 2020 21:24:09 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 25, 2020 22:12:49 GMT
The Mummy (1932) - Bramwell Fletcher delivers one of the great male screams of early talkies, followed by true hysterics: (Sorry the video didn't show up here, but it plays on YouTube if you click thru on the link.) Gone With the Wind (1939) - Melanie remains cool - Scarlett's very word - when confronted with the sight of a Yankee deserter whose face has just been blown off: But it does remain an unavoidable fact that most of film history has reflected the sexist times in which they were made. Below, in 1942's Mr. and Mrs. North, Gracie Allen satirizes what had already become cliche: 
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 25, 2020 22:13:54 GMT
godfather spoiler.....
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Post by koskiewicz on Jan 26, 2020 21:15:52 GMT
Una O'Connor in "The Invisible Man"
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 27, 2020 3:18:50 GMT
Remember the ending to The Tingler?
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Post by snsurone on Jan 27, 2020 10:42:26 GMT
Una O'Connor in "The Invisible Man" Una was one of moviedom's biggest screamers. There may well be no other actor who could convey hysteria so well. Which is why I loved her in the final scene of THE INFORMER. There, she didn't utter a sound, but just clasped her hands in prayer.
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Post by louise on Jan 27, 2020 13:56:40 GMT
I don't think it's misogyny, if anything it's the other way round. Women are allowed to be frightened, a woman screaming is seen as perfectly okay, whereas a screaming man is more likely to be mocked at, told to 'be a man' etc. Women can get away with some things that a man can't.
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 27, 2020 18:39:53 GMT
Nicholas Cage screams a few times in Mandy for different reasons.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 27, 2020 20:58:59 GMT
I don't think it's misogyny, if anything it's the other way round. Women are allowed to be frightened, a woman screaming is seen as perfectly okay, whereas a screaming man is more likely to be mocked at, told to 'be a man' etc. Women can get away with some things that a man can't. Sorry, but I can't agree. For too long women were expected to be fragile, emotional creatures dependent on men to protect them. IMO, screaming is symbolic of this double standard. But I do agree that any male, especially a young boy, being told to "man up" by not expressing feeling, especially fear, is the victim of verbal abuse.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 28, 2020 10:44:48 GMT
I think it had much to do with the introduction of sound and the fact that a woman's scream sounded more interesting than a man's and it could be used to punctuate certain sequences (although it could also be used excessively). In Raiders of the Lost Ark when Marion is trapped with the mummies-she screams at the end--now, up to that point she didn't seem the type to do it so either it was done to punctuate the sound buildup in the tomb and or so it indicated she was becoming more feminine as the film progressed? Another example where a woman screamed for no good reason is Leslie-Anne Down in SPHINX. She screams just about every minute. Suzy Kendall's scream is unusual--so much so that she is listed as "special guest screamer" in the credits for Berberian Sound Studio. A better scene in Raiders is the climactic one, where both Indy and Marion howl as the cataclysmic wind blew around them. Agree?
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Post by Gubbio on Jan 28, 2020 22:52:07 GMT
snsurone And, Ricky Ricardo was an ogre to poor Lucy. Hi, snsurone.   
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