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Post by CrepedCrusader on Feb 4, 2020 1:45:12 GMT
I was thinking about how, with MCU movies, I (and, occasionally, the public at large) find the second film in a series to be far weaker than the first.
Far From Home was far inferior to Homecoming. Guardians 2 was far inferior to Guardians 1. Ant-Man & the Wasp was far inferior to Ant-Man. Iron man 2 was a crapfest compared to Iron Man.
I didn't have any major issues with Thor 2 or Age of Ultron, but most people see them as a step down from their predecessors.
It seems like Winter Soldier was the only one that was an improvement on the first film in its series.
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Post by James on Feb 4, 2020 2:20:28 GMT
I disagree on Far From Home and Guardians 2. In fact don’t most people find Far From Home to be the superior film?
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Post by politicidal on Feb 4, 2020 2:43:30 GMT
Although they’re still a 7/10 for me, I did not like GOTG 2 or Far From Home as much as their predecessors. I did actually like Antman and The Wasp better than the first one. The gold standard is certainly The Winter Soldier. Age of Ultron does some things better than the original Avengers even if I still liked that one better. Iron Man 2 and Thor: The Dark World are probably the two worst MCU films. Even The Incredible Hulk has more weight behind it.
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Post by hobowar on Feb 4, 2020 4:01:11 GMT
Apart from Iron Man 2 and Dark World, the second installments always curb stomp the original in my opinion.
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Post by sostie on Feb 4, 2020 8:55:51 GMT
Apart from Iron Man 2 and Dark World, the second installments always curb stomp the original in my opinion. Even Winter Soldier?
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Post by hobowar on Feb 4, 2020 10:35:09 GMT
Apart from Iron Man 2 and Dark World, the second installments always curb stomp the original in my opinion. Even Winter Soldier? I was exaggerating slightly. Wait, are you saying Winter Soldier was bad or First Avenger was good?
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Post by scabab on Feb 4, 2020 10:41:11 GMT
I thought Far From Home was at least on par with Homecoming.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 4, 2020 17:28:37 GMT
I liked FFM and TWS better than their predecessors. Antman and Wasp was about on par with Antman I think. But look on the brightside: the MCU is one of the few franchises who's 3rd films in the series can surpass their first films.
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Post by sostie on Feb 4, 2020 18:29:19 GMT
I was exaggerating slightly. Wait, are you saying Winter Soldier was bad or First Avenger was good? I'm saying Winter Soldier was great and better than First Avenger
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Post by hobowar on Feb 4, 2020 18:42:03 GMT
I was exaggerating slightly. Wait, are you saying Winter Soldier was bad or First Avenger was good? I'm saying Winter Soldier was great and better than First Avenger I agree. Although I still liked First Avenger.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 4, 2020 19:12:29 GMT
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 4, 2020 23:40:35 GMT
That does seem to be the case. Although I don’t really outright hate any of the second installments they have always seemed to be inferior to the original with of course The Winter Soldier being the exception.
I would even consider Endgame to be a second installment and aside from a few key moments I found IW to be a much better film.
I do have a feeling that Doctor Strange is going to be the next MCU film to have a superior sequel.
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Post by James on Feb 5, 2020 0:00:35 GMT
Guess I’ll give my stance on each sequel if they are better or not than the first.
Iron Man >>>> Iron Man 2 Thor > Thor: The Dark World Captain America: The First Avenger <<<< Captain America: The Winter Soldier The Avengers > Avengers: Age of Ultron Ant-Man > Ant-Man and the Wasp Guardians of the Galaxy < Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming < Spider-Man: Far From Home
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 5, 2020 7:58:21 GMT
Guess I’ll give my stance on each sequel if they are better or not than the first. Iron Man >>>> Iron Man 2 Thor > Thor: The Dark World Captain America: The First Avenger <<<< Captain America: The Winter Soldier The Avengers > Avengers: Age of Ultron Ant-Man > Ant-Man and the Wasp Guardians of the Galaxy < Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming < Spider-Man: Far From Home Pretty much this, though I'm not sure if I would agree on Guardians of the Galaxy films. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 8:12:47 GMT
Only one I really agree with is Iron Man. Guardians 2 was mostly ok apart from changing Drax draxtically. Avengers 2 was just too ambitious but it was far better in its ambition than Batman V Superman. Winter Soldier is obviously better
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Post by James on Feb 5, 2020 11:16:49 GMT
Guess I’ll give my stance on each sequel if they are better or not than the first. Iron Man >>>> Iron Man 2 Thor > Thor: The Dark World Captain America: The First Avenger <<<< Captain America: The Winter Soldier The Avengers > Avengers: Age of Ultron Ant-Man > Ant-Man and the Wasp Guardians of the Galaxy < Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming < Spider-Man: Far From Home Pretty much this, though I'm not sure if I would agree on Guardians of the Galaxy films. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) That being said I think both are about equal in quality, so I’m okay with most people liking the first one more.
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Post by havenless on Feb 6, 2020 5:45:07 GMT
I think it’s hit or miss, not leading toward a trend in either direction.
IM > IM2 CA:FA < WS Thor > Thor 2 Guardians > Guardians 2 AM = AM2 SMHC < SMFFH
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 6, 2020 6:04:30 GMT
I think it’s hit or miss, not leading toward a trend in either direction. IM > IM2 CA:FA < WS Thor > Thor 2 Guardians > Guardians 2 AM = AM2 SMHC < SMFFH I thoroughly agree with this.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Feb 7, 2020 4:37:33 GMT
I thought Far From Home was at least on par with Homecoming. Maybe I'm in the minority on that. I really wasn't satisfied, though I did like the ending.
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Post by darkpast on Feb 7, 2020 5:05:37 GMT
I disagree on Far From Home and Guardians 2. In fact don’t most people find Far From Home to be the superior film? Not from me, Far From Home was awful , at least Homecoming had Batman.
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