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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 8, 2020 18:54:10 GMT
I think it would have been better if the movie had ended with Rey going over to the dark side and ruling the galaxy as a Sith lord.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 9, 2020 20:53:19 GMT
I know that a heck of a lot of people don't like that Rey took the "Skywalker" name for herself at the end but I myself am actually okay with it and even though she isn't related by blood, I myself do consider her to be a Skywalker now and have zero problem calling her Rey Skywalker.
How about you ?
Do you consider Rey to be a Skywalker now even though she isn't by blood ?
I think it would have been better if she took the name Palpatine, but i don`t really see it as a big problem that she is took the name Skywalker, it did not really bother me. But personally i don`t see her as a Skywalker. Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 9, 2020 21:58:31 GMT
I think it would have been better if she took the name Palpatine, but i don`t really see it as a big problem that she is took the name Skywalker, it did not really bother me. But personally i don`t see her as a Skywalker. Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith. Hitler did not have children
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 9, 2020 23:10:53 GMT
I did not hate the actual ending, but i think it could have been better.
I know that a heck of a lot of people don't like that Rey took the "Skywalker" name for herself at the end but I myself am actually okay with it and even though she isn't related by blood, I myself do consider her to be a Skywalker now and have zero problem calling her Rey Skywalker.
How about you ?
Do you consider Rey to be a Skywalker now even though she isn't by blood ?
Rey is not a Skywalker. She is a Palpatine and that is final.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 9, 2020 23:14:18 GMT
I think it would have been better if she took the name Palpatine, but i don`t really see it as a big problem that she is took the name Skywalker, it did not really bother me. But personally i don`t see her as a Skywalker. Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith. Anakin Skywalker killed thousands, including younglings. Skywalker is a tarnished name as well. Rey is just an attention whore.
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Post by wolf359 on Apr 10, 2020 0:07:20 GMT
I know that a heck of a lot of people don't like that Rey took the "Skywalker" name for herself at the end but I myself am actually okay with it and even though she isn't related by blood, I myself do consider her to be a Skywalker now and have zero problem calling her Rey Skywalker.
How about you ?
Do you consider Rey to be a Skywalker now even though she isn't by blood ?
Rey is not a Skywalker. She is a Palpatine and that is final.
It's final to you and that is final!
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Post by dazz on Apr 10, 2020 1:05:06 GMT
I think it would have been better if she took the name Palpatine, but i don`t really see it as a big problem that she is took the name Skywalker, it did not really bother me. But personally i don`t see her as a Skywalker. Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith. So instead she took the name of his right hand man, the great betrayer of the Jedi, slaughterer of children, scourge of the Jedi Order, Anakin "Youngling Killer" Skywalker?
So it actually would be more like finding out you mother got knocked up by Hitler and then put you up for adoption only no one ever adopted you, but after you aged out of the system you then become friends with the family of Eva Braun's sisters and decide to take their name they all suddenly and slowly die within a year after meeting you during which time you have "acquired" their rare religious text's, family heirlooms, vintage car, their house not to mention their business...Damn she was a Palpatine, just look at it, that's a hell of a game she ran on those Skywalker fools, Papa Palppy must be so proud.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 10, 2020 15:48:51 GMT
Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith. Hitler did not have children Why is there only a thumbs up button on this site?
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 10, 2020 15:58:02 GMT
Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith. Anakin Skywalker killed thousands, including younglings. Skywalker is a tarnished name as well. Rey is just an attention whore. Actually, it's not. Anakin died a hero to the Republic. Everyone that knows that Vader and Anakin are the same person are either dead or in hiding. People think that Vader came to help Palpatine rid the galaxy of the traitorous Jedi. I'd say that Luke kept the name from being tarnished after it came out that Vader was Anakin post BoE.
Also, why would calling herself Skywalker make her an attention whore when she already saved the galaxy by defeating the PalpClone. She's already pretty famous.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 10, 2020 16:08:03 GMT
Why would she take on the last name of the Emperor of the Empire? She took on the name of the family line that trained her as an honorific. It's like finding out you were adopted and actually the great grandkid of Adolf Hitler. Would you change your last name to Hitler? Palpatine isn't a name that would have a big family line to it like a Smith. So instead she took the name of his right hand man, the great betrayer of the Jedi, slaughterer of children, scourge of the Jedi Order, Anakin "Youngling Killer" Skywalker?
So it actually would be more like finding out you mother got knocked up by Hitler and then put you up for adoption only no one ever adopted you, but after you aged out of the system you then become friends with the family of Eva Braun's sisters and decide to take their name they all suddenly and slowly die within a year after meeting you during which time you have "acquired" their rare religious text's, family heirlooms, vintage car, their house not to mention their business...Damn she was a Palpatine, just look at it, that's a hell of a game she ran on those Skywalker fools, Papa Palppy must be so proud.
No, she took the name of the Jedi Master that trained her.
Did Eva Braun's sisters kill Hitler and end WW2? Cause that's not common knowledge that would make her a hero. Also, you make it sound like everything started happening after she took on their name. Hell, you make it sound like none of that stuff was freely given to her.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 10, 2020 16:29:07 GMT
Anakin Skywalker killed thousands, including younglings. Skywalker is a tarnished name as well. Rey is just an attention whore. Actually, it's not. Anakin died a hero to the Republic. Everyone that knows that Vader and Anakin are the same person are either dead or in hiding. People think that Vader came to help Palpatine rid the galaxy of the traitorous Jedi. I'd say that Luke kept the name from being tarnished after it came out that Vader was Anakin post BoE.
Also, why would calling herself Skywalker make her an attention whore when she already saved the galaxy by defeating the PalpClone. She's already pretty famous.
There was camera footage of Anakin killing younglings. Didn’t Bail Organa know? He would have told others. The resistance would have known.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 10, 2020 17:11:22 GMT
Actually, it's not. Anakin died a hero to the Republic. Everyone that knows that Vader and Anakin are the same person are either dead or in hiding. People think that Vader came to help Palpatine rid the galaxy of the traitorous Jedi. I'd say that Luke kept the name from being tarnished after it came out that Vader was Anakin post BoE.
Also, why would calling herself Skywalker make her an attention whore when she already saved the galaxy by defeating the PalpClone. She's already pretty famous.
There was camera footage of Anakin killing younglings. Didn’t Bail Organa know? He would have told others. The resistance would have known. I smell a cover up.
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Post by shannondegroot on Apr 10, 2020 18:12:36 GMT
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Post by dazz on Apr 10, 2020 21:18:13 GMT
So instead she took the name of his right hand man, the great betrayer of the Jedi, slaughterer of children, scourge of the Jedi Order, Anakin "Youngling Killer" Skywalker?
So it actually would be more like finding out you mother got knocked up by Hitler and then put you up for adoption only no one ever adopted you, but after you aged out of the system you then become friends with the family of Eva Braun's sisters and decide to take their name they all suddenly and slowly die within a year after meeting you during which time you have "acquired" their rare religious text's, family heirlooms, vintage car, their house not to mention their business...Damn she was a Palpatine, just look at it, that's a hell of a game she ran on those Skywalker fools, Papa Palppy must be so proud.
No, she took the name of the Jedi Master that trained her.
Did Eva Braun's sisters kill Hitler and end WW2? Cause that's not common knowledge that would make her a hero. Also, you make it sound like everything started happening after she took on their name. Hell, you make it sound like none of that stuff was freely given to her.
Well all the past taking the name stuff was tongue in cheek, but in actuality no Luke never gives her his Lightsabre or Jedi text, no one gave her the Falcon she just assumed ownership of it seemingly, Luke did give her his old X-Wing however, but then who gave her R2 or C3PO or BB8? then she just assumes the position of head Jedi after Luke & Leia die also.
And the did Braun's sister do this don't matter, finding out who Vader actually was, and in turn who Luke & Leia's father actually was destroyed Leia's political career, and Luke never killed Palpatine that was Vader, and Han, Chewie and Lando are responsible for destroying the 2nd Death Star and crippling the Empire not the children of Vader, Leia got shot and in the end was no major help, it was Chewie comendeering the walker and Han tricking the bunker guards that led to lowering the shields and then Lando taking out the Death Star, Luke literally does nothing in ROTJ to topple the empire, it's like Indiana Jones in Raiders, but instead of Indy stopping the Nazi's being pointless it's a case of whether Luke wins or loses his battle for his fathers soul other people still blow up the Death Star regardless.
And Luke never trained her really, he told her he'd give her 2 lessons, he spent what 2 days with her? and Leia's name was Organa she never went by Skywalker I don't think, that or maybe she also went by Solo for a time who knows, but Skywalker is still Anakin's family name so she is still taking the family name of her Grandfather/Father's partner in war crimes.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 10, 2020 22:46:52 GMT
Rey shouldn’t take the Falcon. It would have gone to Leia upon Han’s death and then to Ben Solo upon her death. After Ben Solo died, as he had no next of kin and I’m assuming didn’t leave a will, it should be given to the government. That’s what happens if you don’t leave a will or have any next of kin.
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Post by dazz on Apr 11, 2020 0:29:27 GMT
Rey shouldn’t take the Falcon. It would have gone to Leia upon Han’s death and then to Ben Solo upon her death. After Ben Solo died, as he had no next of kin and I’m assuming didn’t leave a will, it should be given to the government. That’s what happens if you don’t leave a will or have any next of kin. Maybe not in a Galaxy far far away especially way back a long time ago, it should have gone to his family, Chewie OR the people he owed money to, and lets be honest Han owed a few people quite a bit of money remember.
Rey getting it is like huh? really? why? unless in TROS it is Chewie or Leia's, I hear Poe and Rey bicker about it at some point so I hope Chewie yells at them like the dad yelling at the kids on a long road trip to stop bickering and behave, doubt it though.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 11, 2020 0:33:46 GMT
Rey shouldn’t take the Falcon. It would have gone to Leia upon Han’s death and then to Ben Solo upon her death. After Ben Solo died, as he had no next of kin and I’m assuming didn’t leave a will, it should be given to the government. That’s what happens if you don’t leave a will or have any next of kin. Maybe not in a Galaxy far far away especially way back a long time ago, it should have gone to his family, Chewie OR the people he owed money to, and lets be honest Han owed a few people quite a bit of money remember.
Rey getting it is like huh? really? why? unless in TROS it is Chewie or Leia's, I hear Poe and Rey bicker about it at some point so I hope Chewie yells at them like the dad yelling at the kids on a long road trip to stop bickering and behave, doubt it though.
Don't worry, she told the DMV her name was "Rey... Rey Solo"
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 11, 2020 0:48:00 GMT
No, she took the name of the Jedi Master that trained her.
Did Eva Braun's sisters kill Hitler and end WW2? Cause that's not common knowledge that would make her a hero. Also, you make it sound like everything started happening after she took on their name. Hell, you make it sound like none of that stuff was freely given to her.
Well all the past taking the name stuff was tongue in cheek, but in actuality no Luke never gives her his Lightsabre or Jedi text, no one gave her the Falcon she just assumed ownership of it seemingly, Luke did give her his old X-Wing however, but then who gave her R2 or C3PO or BB8? then she just assumes the position of head Jedi after Luke & Leia die also.
And the did Braun's sister do this don't matter, finding out who Vader actually was, and in turn who Luke & Leia's father actually was destroyed Leia's political career, and Luke never killed Palpatine that was Vader, and Han, Chewie and Lando are responsible for destroying the 2nd Death Star and crippling the Empire not the children of Vader, Leia got shot and in the end was no major help, it was Chewie comendeering the walker and Han tricking the bunker guards that led to lowering the shields and then Lando taking out the Death Star, Luke literally does nothing in ROTJ to topple the empire, it's like Indiana Jones in Raiders, but instead of Indy stopping the Nazi's being pointless it's a case of whether Luke wins or loses his battle for his fathers soul other people still blow up the Death Star regardless.
And Luke never trained her really, he told her he'd give her 2 lessons, he spent what 2 days with her? and Leia's name was Organa she never went by Skywalker I don't think, that or maybe she also went by Solo for a time who knows, but Skywalker is still Anakin's family name so she is still taking the family name of her Grandfather/Father's partner in war crimes.
Maz gave her the lightsaber, but she turned away from it and kept it after her fight with Kylo. She even gave it back to Luke. She then tried to throw away her next lightsaber into a pyre, but then that too was given to her by Luke. She took the texts before Luke could burn them. She was never given the Falcon except when she used it as a means to escape. When did she assume ownership of the Falcon? We keep seeing Chewie fly it. R2 and C-3PO are a part of the Resistance and belonged to Leia. BB-8 belonged to Poe. Wait... are you just saying that things that were withing 5ft of her now belongs to her?
Yeah, but Luke turned Vader. I like how you took Leia out of that group that was on Endor when they took out the shield.
Luke taught Rey how to control the Force. So you saying Leia being related to the Skywalkers as daughter and sister still doesn't give her the right to be a Skywalker even if she went by a different last name? Skywalker is also the name of the war hero, Luke. People saw him as such.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 11, 2020 0:51:28 GMT
Actually, it's not. Anakin died a hero to the Republic. Everyone that knows that Vader and Anakin are the same person are either dead or in hiding. People think that Vader came to help Palpatine rid the galaxy of the traitorous Jedi. I'd say that Luke kept the name from being tarnished after it came out that Vader was Anakin post BoE.
Also, why would calling herself Skywalker make her an attention whore when she already saved the galaxy by defeating the PalpClone. She's already pretty famous.
There was camera footage of Anakin killing younglings. Didn’t Bail Organa know? He would have told others. The resistance would have known. Wasn't the Jedi Temple destroyed? That's why Luke had to search the galaxy for stuff on Jedi. Why would Palpatine leave up the Temple when the Jedi were traitors? Don't think he knew Vader was Anakin. And he only knew that the Clonetroopers attacked the Temple.
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Post by Jason143 on Apr 11, 2020 1:59:47 GMT
Rey shouldn’t take the Falcon. It would have gone to Leia upon Han’s death and then to Ben Solo upon her death. After Ben Solo died, as he had no next of kin and I’m assuming didn’t leave a will, it should be given to the government. That’s what happens if you don’t leave a will or have any next of kin. She is a mega bitch. Taking the falcon is a big sin but forgivable. But taking the Skywalker name is heresy
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