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Post by sdm3 on Oct 1, 2024 7:33:05 GMT
OT: Jimmy Carter made it to 100 years old. His term wasn't anything to remember, but he surely ranks up there with the best in terms of post-presidency activities.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 1, 2024 11:40:45 GMT
OT: Jimmy Carter made it to 100 years old. His term wasn't anything to remember, but he surely ranks up there with the best in terms of post-presidency activities. "He's history's greatest monster!"
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 1, 2024 15:26:38 GMT
How about you Jep? Did they do the live, theatrical thing at your screening? As I heard it described there's a scene that's like a press conference or something, and the aspect ratio changes and gets much smaller and some in the theater is meant to be interacting with Adam Driver. I heard this from the festival premiere, but also other screenings at regular theaters, so I know it wasn't just a one-off, but I always had my doubts that very many theaters would participate. No, there was nothing with people in the audience interacting with the screen. I do remember that there was a moment where the image becomes much smaller on the screen, but I don’t remember what was happening at that moment. I heard yesterday that this was going to be a 'select screenings' kinda thing and that only certain Imax showings at certain times in certain cities would have this live element. Evidently for 95% of screenings the actor who would be saying a line to interact with the screen would be replaced with pre-recorded dialogue.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 2, 2024 0:45:45 GMT
As a lifelong fan of science fiction, I always had it in the back of my mind that I should watch Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon one day, in spite of the very negative reviews it received. So that's what I tried doing the other day. I watched about half of the first part (the regular release version, not the Director's cut that runs about 3 and a half hours) and stopped. I wasn't hating it, I just didn't find it interesting enough.
Unless someone tells me that it is worth sticking with it, I don't think I will finish the first part, let alone watch the second and final chapter.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 2, 2024 16:48:10 GMT
As a lifelong fan of science fiction, I always had it in the back of my mind that I should watch Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon one day, in spite of the very negative reviews it received. So that's what I tried doing the other day. I watched about half of the first part (the regular release version, not the Director's cut that runs about 3 and a half hours) and stopped. I wasn't hating it, I just didn't find it interesting enough. Unless someone tells me that it is worth sticking with it, I don't think I will finish the first part, let alone watch the second and final chapter. I considered starting it at one point too, but it never seemed like a good idea. And I watched The Crow: Wicked Prayer... twice.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 2, 2024 18:02:23 GMT
As a lifelong fan of science fiction, I always had it in the back of my mind that I should watch Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon one day, in spite of the very negative reviews it received. So that's what I tried doing the other day. I watched about half of the first part (the regular release version, not the Director's cut that runs about 3 and a half hours) and stopped. I wasn't hating it, I just didn't find it interesting enough. Unless someone tells me that it is worth sticking with it, I don't think I will finish the first part, let alone watch the second and final chapter. I considered starting it at one point too, but it never seemed like a good idea. And I watched The Crow: Wicked Prayer... twice. I've seen I, Frankenstein twice. And also reviewed it in this thread!
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 4, 2024 15:34:23 GMT
I considered starting it at one point too, but it never seemed like a good idea. And I watched The Crow: Wicked Prayer... twice. I've seen I, Frankenstein twice. And also reviewed it in this thread! I vaguely remember that. I don't think I've ever seen it. Was that aggressively terrible to the point of enjoyment? Or just lame and bad? Or just mediocre?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 4, 2024 16:31:14 GMT
I've seen I, Frankenstein twice. And also reviewed it in this thread! I vaguely remember that. I don't think I've ever seen it. Was that aggressively terrible to the point of enjoyment? Or just lame and bad? Or just mediocre?Of the choices presented here I'd say, 'lame and bad.' Here's the link to the page featuring my review. It probably borders on 'aggressively bad' but not in a fun trainwreck kind of way. There are minor elements here and there I enjoyed, but even I can't give it 'mediocre' status. I'd tell most people to avoid it, but you have an appreciation for the character I think, so you might give it a look and find something worthwhile in it. You also have a lower tolerance for bad action movies than I do, so it'd probably be a waste of your time. If you do bother, keep your expectations at zero. Otherwise, I think you can take my review at face value.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 4, 2024 18:49:34 GMT
I vaguely remember that. I don't think I've ever seen it. Was that aggressively terrible to the point of enjoyment? Or just lame and bad? Or just mediocre?Of the choices presented here I'd say, 'lame and bad.' Here's the link to the page featuring my review. It probably borders on 'aggressively bad' but not in a fun trainwreck kind of way. There are minor elements here and there I enjoyed, but even I can't give it 'mediocre' status. I'd tell most people to avoid it, but you have an appreciation for the character I think, so you might give it a look and find something worthwhile in it. You also have a lower tolerance for bad action movies than I do, so it'd probably be a waste of your time. If you do bother, keep your expectations at zero. Otherwise, I think you can take my review at face value. Man, speaking of bad action movies... not sure if it qualifies bought I caught like 5 mins of Godzilla XYZ Kong the other day. Holy Christmas. One of the worst thing I've ever seen. Might need to watch the rest out curiosity.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 4, 2024 19:04:30 GMT
Of the choices presented here I'd say, 'lame and bad.' Here's the link to the page featuring my review. It probably borders on 'aggressively bad' but not in a fun trainwreck kind of way. There are minor elements here and there I enjoyed, but even I can't give it 'mediocre' status. I'd tell most people to avoid it, but you have an appreciation for the character I think, so you might give it a look and find something worthwhile in it. You also have a lower tolerance for bad action movies than I do, so it'd probably be a waste of your time. If you do bother, keep your expectations at zero. Otherwise, I think you can take my review at face value. Man, speaking of bad action movies... not sure if it qualifies bought I caught like 5 mins of Godzilla XYZ Kong the other day. Holy Christmas. One of the worst thing I've ever seen. Might need to watch the rest out curiosity. Yeah so this is the one I saw with my son, and it basically reminded me he (9 at the time) was the target audience. I enjoyed it for what it was (pure schlock) and made peace with the fact that they're never going to take Godzilla seriously, like they tried to do with the 2014 movie.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 5, 2024 0:50:06 GMT
Man, speaking of bad action movies... not sure if it qualifies bought I caught like 5 mins of Godzilla XYZ Kong the other day. Holy Christmas. One of the worst thing I've ever seen. Might need to watch the rest out curiosity. Yeah so this is the one I saw with my son, and it basically reminded me he (9 at the time) was the target audience. I enjoyed it for what it was (pure schlock) and made peace with the fact that they're never going to take Godzilla seriously, like they tried to do with the 2014 movie. Haven't seen it yet, but I heard Toho finally, properly took it seriously.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 5, 2024 8:17:27 GMT
We’re seeing Joker 2 and Never Let Go today; the reviews for both are abysmal.
“I’ll just form my own opinion!”
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 5, 2024 15:37:56 GMT
Yeah so this is the one I saw with my son, and it basically reminded me he (9 at the time) was the target audience. I enjoyed it for what it was (pure schlock) and made peace with the fact that they're never going to take Godzilla seriously, like they tried to do with the 2014 movie. Haven't seen it yet, but I heard Toho finally, properly took it seriously. Godzilla Minus One is excellent. It's a legit war movie disguised as a Godzilla movie. I highly recommend it, it's a top 25 all time film for me. But I was talking about the American produced films. I understand the complaints about Godzilla (2014); the lack of characterization, the bait and switch with heavily featuring Cranston in the marketing, only to kill him off early in the film. But it's a look at the genre from a more serious note. It's more about how people react to this situation in real time instead of the mindless CGI slugfests of the movies. Monarch, the Godzilla show on AppleTV, is also pretty good, and has a tone closer to the 2014 film. It has no shortage of monster cameos, but still stays (relatively, for a sci-fi show featuring kaiju) grounded in the human characters' stories. But as far as the movies are concerned, they've obviously decided camp is the way to go. They got dumber and dumber with each installment before I just gave up and enjoyed the video game antics for what they were. Seeing how much my son got into it probably helped me get into it, too.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 5, 2024 17:11:23 GMT
Haven't seen it yet, but I heard Toho finally, properly took it seriously. Godzilla Minus One is excellent. It's a legit war movie disguised as a Godzilla movie. I highly recommend it, it's a top 25 all time film for me. But I was talking about the American produced films. I understand the complaints about Godzilla (2014); the lack of characterization, the bait and switch with heavily featuring Cranston in the marketing, only to kill him off early in the film. But it's a look at the genre from a more serious note. It's more about how people react to this situation in real time instead of the mindless CGI slugfests of the movies. Monarch, the Godzilla show on AppleTV, is also pretty good, and has a tone closer to the 2014 film. It has no shortage of monster cameos, but still stays (relatively, for a sci-fi show featuring kaiju) grounded in the human characters' stories. But as far as the movies are concerned, they've obviously decided camp is the way to go. They got dumber and dumber with each installment before I just gave up and enjoyed the video game antics for what they were. Seeing how much my son got into it probably helped me get into it, too. I think we've had this conversation before, but agreed on 2014. Highly recommend the director's previous film Monsters which is a giant monster/alien movie minus all the clichés. It's like a small, serious character drama with big monster special effects, that apparently he did cheaply all by himself. Very much intend to watch Minus One, just haven't gotten to it yet.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 6, 2024 4:36:42 GMT
masterofallgoons Because we didn't talk this to death enough the other day, I rewatched The Crow (1994) tonight and I wonder at what point they realized they had a masterpiece on their hands. The cinematography, the dialog, the score, the art direction, the writing, and the acting. Holy shit the acting. The cast is filled out with solid character actors from top to bottom, even Tony Todd as the henchman with like four lines. Its most 90s attribute may not be the music or the fashion, but rather the snarky behavior of most of the cast. Everyone has a comeback, everyone has a point of view. Some of these characters are really going for it, but nobody feels out of place. You don't stop and think, "What was he thinking here?" As zany, as cynical, as psychotic or smug or drugged up or just-trying-to-make-their-way-through-this-world as any given character may be, every actor understood the assignment. Nobody was in a different movie, they all felt genuine to the tone of this film. You know, the sarcastic yet earnest supernatural/action/revenge thriller/drama that seems impossible to describe, let alone capture on film. It takes place in a rain-filled dreamscape that is equal parts ethereal and yet completely lived in. Eric and Shelly provide the tragedy, but it's Sarah that provides the heart and soul of this story. She begins and ends the movie with a voiceover, it's her perspective that defines this world. It's Sarah that gets the better life she deserves in the end. Her junkie mother who appears in three scenes has a greater character arc than anyone in the 2024 version. But the personality, the essence of what makes this such a compelling story, is the time we spend with all of the supporting cast. Each villain, no matter how important to the plot, is given his own unique personality and scenes away from the action that don't necessarily push the plot forward. They just give you a sense of what this person is about. Hell, the food truck guy and the bartender even have distinct personalities, it's incredible. Let's talk details. There's obvious brilliance like T-Bird remembering quoting Milton when he killed them, and repeating it as he was about to die, "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is," but there are tiny details that have no reason to exist. Top Dollar giving that speech to the assembled gangsters about how they always set the city ablaze, and his sister/lover interjects, "I like the pretty lights." The guys all laugh, and the smile runs away from her face as she can't decide if they're laughing with her or at her. Top Dollar quotes his father multiple times, and he's screwing his half-sister, so clearly that family history feeds heavily into his motivation. Again, it's not important to the story at all, it just adds another dimension to these characters. I already mentioned the dialog, particularly that of Eric, throughout the entire film. It's so damn quotable, and often combined with amazing editing. Eric has Tin-Tin pinned to the wall and pulls out a knife and finishes his haunting recap of his and Shelly's deaths, "Victims. Aren't we all," and goes in for the kill shot as the scene jump cuts to the band playing at the club. And don't even get me going on how well that entire scene was shot. Every single creative decision in this film is a fucking home run. I watch this movie probably once every two or three years, and I almost forget how great it is until I see it again. And this year probably feels even better, having sat through a soulless remake a month ago. For the life of me I will never understand why the director of the remake bothered at all if he was going to (pardon the pun) suck the life out of this story. Of course, the real tragedy isn't just that Brandon Lee died during filming, it's that his performance in this film shows that he was just coming into his own as an actor and had unlimited potential. His on-set death provided the film a macabre kind of mystique, and also a kind of sick irony. Here I am celebrating the near flawless filmmaking of a movie where the star lost his life to negligence in its making. Brandon wherever you are, just know your work is appreciated and will live on forever.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 6, 2024 6:58:52 GMT
So Joker: Folie à Deux - while I'm not sure I'd say I enjoyed it in that I'd like to see it again, I certainly found the direction it took to be interesting - very obviously, very deliberately lambasting much of its audience. The film actually seemed to anticipate that it'd be received poorly and I'm in no way surprised that so many people hated it - particularly those who loved the first one (which I thought was decent, not great).
It amuses me to think of outraged cinemagoers realizing they're the ones who "get what you fucking deserve" as Todd Phillips paints an unflattering picture of Harley Quinn's groupie figure and the goons (not you, Goons) in clown masks who idolized a mentally disturbed, abused, and pathetic little man before abandoning him when he doesn't become the "badass" nerdist fantasy that is the "Loyal But Dangerous" male archetype they so wanted him to be. In fact, the musical numbers only highlighted, very purposely, how truly silly this whole persona is and how deluded Joker fans were for buying into it and gassing up this individual as they admire his "chaos," his willingness to "stick it to the man;" the theatrical criminal mastermind they thought they were getting is cringeworthy to watch, and that's exactly the point - and the man underneath is the one who has to live with the consequences while his supporters lose interest and go searching misguidedly for the next hero to worship.
In reality, this entire endeavor had nothing to do with Batman, nothing to do with the "Clown Prince of Crime" - and Phillips is tired of pretending it ever did. Is he going to be praised for it? No. Was it a good idea to flip off his audience? Probably not. But it's wholly unlike any other "comic book movie" I've ever seen, and I kind of respect it for that. This sequel didn't need to happen - but people were clamoring for Fleck to become The Joker - and the film says they're sickos for wanting it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 6, 2024 12:59:23 GMT
So Joker: Folie à Deux - while I'm not sure I'd say I enjoyed it in that I'd like to see it again, I certainly found the direction it took to be interesting - very obviously, very deliberately lambasting much of its audience. The film actually seemed to anticipate that it'd be received poorly and I'm in no way surprised that so many people hated it - particularly those who loved the first one (which I thought was decent, not great). It amuses me to think of outraged cinemagoers realizing they're the ones who "get what you fucking deserve" as Todd Phillips paints an unflattering picture of Harley Quinn's groupie figure and the goons (not you, Goons) in clown masks who idolized a mentally disturbed, abused, and pathetic little man before abandoning him when he doesn't become the "badass" nerdist fantasy that is the "Loyal But Dangerous" male archetype they so wanted him to be. In fact, the musical numbers only highlighted, very purposely, how truly silly this whole persona is and how deluded Joker fans were for buying into it and gassing up this individual as they admire his "chaos," his willingness to "stick it to the man;" the theatrical criminal mastermind they thought they were getting is cringeworthy to watch, and that's exactly the point - and the man underneath is the one who has to live with the consequences while his supporters lose interest and go searching misguidedly for the next hero to worship. In reality, this entire endeavor had nothing to do with Batman, nothing to do with the "Clown Prince of Crime" - and Phillips is tired of pretending it ever did. Is he going to be praised for it? No. Was it a good idea to flip off his audience? Probably not. But it's wholly unlike any other "comic book movie" I've ever seen, and I kind of respect it for that. This sequel didn't need to happen - but people were clamoring for Fleck to become The Joker - and the film says they're sickos for wanting it. I didn't like the first movie and this one looked even dumber. I heard how it ends, and I think it's hilarious that the director would deliberately flip off the audience like that. Truly, the joke was on them.
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