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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 21:31:52 GMT
He's like three characters in one. He's the perfect smarmy politician, the perfect sinister puppet-master, and the perfect over-the-top insane old man who just doesn't give a fuck. And he moves between these three characters almost seamlessly.
Ian McDiarmid gives one of the best performances of all time in RotS. On the one hand, it's the most OTT and hammy performance ever put to film. But on the other hand, it's 100% believable. This insane old fuck has been waiting for DECADES to show people just how fucking batshit crazy he is. And as soon as he has the winning hand, he fucking dials it to 11. I love it.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Apr 25, 2017 21:55:50 GMT
I would second that on both counts. Palps is definitely one of the best, most interestingly written villains in genre movies: Succeeding by clever manipulation and plotting rather than brawling. As for the acting, I enjoy the gleeful ham: the total triumph of evil, especially when he destroys the senate in the fight with Yoda decades before actually dismantling it in ANH.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 26, 2017 1:55:57 GMT
I agree that McDiarmid gave a great performance all around, especially in Revenge of the Sith. I never thought of him as a great villain until I really sat back and thought about how ingenious he was. He really was a scheming genius.
The fact that he essentially built two armies to face off as he controlled both of them was clever, as well. This conflict confirmed he would take absolute power. He's also just an evil dude. So, yeah, he's a pretty good villain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 4:03:10 GMT
McDiarmid was great except in ROTS, where he's just doing a parody of himself for a lot of it. (He is still great im many parts of ROTS, such as the opera scene).
I don't blame him. It's what he was directed to do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:16:57 GMT
McDiarmid was great except in ROTS, where he's just doing a parody of himself for a lot of it. (He is still great im many parts of ROTS, such as the opera scene). I don't blame him. It's what he was directed to do. It works for me. It rings true to the Emperor in RotJ, who was basically like that, except you could tell he was getting bored after 20 years of unopposed rule. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:20:04 GMT
McDiarmid was great except in ROTS, where he's just doing a parody of himself for a lot of it. (He is still great im many parts of ROTS, such as the opera scene). I don't blame him. It's what he was directed to do. It works for me. It rings true to the Emperor in RotJ, who was basically like that, except you could tell he was getting bored after 20 years of unopposed rule. Good for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:31:24 GMT
It works for me. It rings true to the Emperor in RotJ, who was basically like that, except you could tell he was getting bored after 20 years of unopposed rule. Good for you. Easy there, Christian Bale. |
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Post by hi224 on Apr 26, 2017 20:27:27 GMT
I nom him actually.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 1:37:22 GMT
I think McDiarmid's Palpatine was great character and performance, but I consider Javier Bardem's Anton Chigurh as the greatest in my book.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 28, 2017 20:22:32 GMT
I think McDiarmid's Palpatine was great character and performance, but I consider Javier Bardem's Anton Chigurh as the greatest in my book. Ill raise you Thornton as malvo actually. |
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Post by rateater on Apr 28, 2017 22:56:42 GMT
of all time and space.
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Post by pete8680 on May 25, 2017 5:04:48 GMT
Indeed.
Let's compare him to his successor.
Palpatine did something in 30 years that his fellow sith couldn't do in a 1,000. Destroy the Republic & the Jedi. Then rule it all.
Snoke? Just some dude.
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Post by darkpast on May 25, 2017 5:26:00 GMT
in cinema i guess, but not hard, what villain is in 6 films besides maybe Harry Potter, and their main villain is probably in less than that
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 25, 2017 8:20:58 GMT
an argument could be made really, definitely one of the best written baddies.
I saw the PT first. Palpatine and how he rises to power by manipulating and making the Republic stumble over itself is one of the things that made me respect and love the Saga as a narrative. That is great, dystopian storytelling, not the simplistic kiddy shoot-em-up that I expected. Kudos to Lucas for that.
(yeah and to those twerps who say "great villain who is defeated by teddy bears", yah you got a point there, but in the end maybe they lost because them Ewoks looked like teddy bears, eh?)
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Post by shinnickneth on May 25, 2017 19:28:35 GMT
McDiarmid was great except in ROTS, where he's just doing a parody of himself for a lot of it. (He is still great im many parts of ROTS, such as the opera scene). I don't blame him. It's what he was directed to do. His scene where he's launching/throwing things at Yoda has to be his hammiest scene. Still...for some reason...I still like it.  I don't know why Ian isn't in more movies. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 26, 2017 5:48:56 GMT
Definitely my all-time favorite movie villain, especially for his stuff in III.
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Post by shinnickneth on May 27, 2017 1:16:38 GMT
Definitely my all-time favorite movie villain, especially for his stuff in III. That's quite a statement! |
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