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Post by drystyx on Mar 24, 2020 23:14:37 GMT
To Jesus, the biggest losers in this emergency in the U.S. is undeniably the conservative Right.
They may have been under his wing in the abortion debate, but they are losers today. There can be no doubt about that.
The conservative right has now tempted Jesus to the extreme, treating the "least of these" with the most hateful and treacherous of betrayal.
Now, there are people actually saying that it's good to sacrifice lives for the economy. Seriously? These maniacs surely don't believe they are worshiping the good God. There is no way they can believe they are worshiping anyone but Satan or demons or the most evil angels.
Oh, so 20,000 people died of a flu. How the Heck does that justify wanting people to die of this virus? There is zero logic in that, and we all know it. Yet there are maniacs citing this as a reason to allow it. Well, they just worship the idea of people dying, believing it will be the people they want dead. They think they get to choose who dies. We all know it.
There are people on the extreme right who have nothing to gain at all by worshiping this demon the lead Republicans put up as their idol. Absolutely nothing. And they know it. There is proof in itself that demons are influencing human beings. Yes, proof.
President Trump is only vocalizing what Pence, Rubio, McConnell, and the other devil worshipers more eloquently do behind their usual babbling incoherent rhetoric. I'm glad Trump isn't an eloquent speaker. I don't hold that against him. Lets keep focused. Lets see it for what it is-the Republican demon.
Another big "wtf" moment when Trump says, to defend allowing humans to die for the economy "people will be committing suicide" WTF WTF WTF!
It's now out in the open for even the most bungling red neck to see, what even the most ignorant of masses cannot deny.
The maniacs who think they're safe because they're not over 70 or over 60, like a virus knows how old a subject is. But these fools sit complacent in their cigarette smoke or whatever, and I doubt most of them are in as good a shape as most 60 year old people. I truly do, simply because of their complacency and the demon that infests them. I guarantee you that very few people we've met at the gym or the hiking trails or jogging paths say that. It's a symptom of something unhealthy.I
But despite that, they actually want people to die. I suspect it is people for whom they believe themselves beneficiaries in half the cases. These maniacs are sick. They're out of control to demons.
And Jesus is not spreading his wing around the Republican party. Only evil angels and demons enjoy their hatefulness.
And that is the TEST for America. Will they vote for the demon possessed Republican party in November and go totally out of the spirit of Jesus?
Now, I realize the materialists here will hate my words, but atheists who do have some regard for the reality of what is supernatural to us, they will surely understand this in other terms, if not in terms of Jesus, in terms of what they understand of good and evil.
Incredible. I realize about half of you Americans are still working, and in the peril, and those of us in other industries (I'm in gaming) are out of work, and our only duty is just to get the Heck out of the way, and that's all we have to do. Avoid others. Social distance.
But we live in a Western culture of arrogance, which worships arrogance, the need to be leading a charge. Too many chiefs, and all we have to do is be Indians (pardon the metaphor, but it explains it best). It isn't their fault that they can't adhere to social distance. They're listening to maniacs. They trust maniacs. They were educated by maniacs.
One of the easiest tests any generation ever had, ever, and if America fails this on the whole, I'm afraid we'll all suffer for their arrogance. God help us. God forgive us. Jesus help us. Jesus forgive us. Holy Ghost, smash through all those evil angels that Westerners worship and help us and forgive us.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 24, 2020 23:16:52 GMT
Very few Christians are worthy of Jesus
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Post by kls on Mar 25, 2020 0:06:06 GMT
Very few Christians are worthy of Jesus I think the point is we aren't worthy but His sacrifice makes us clean and He will accept us anyway if we follow Him.
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Post by thefleetsin on Mar 25, 2020 1:14:33 GMT
a flamboyant failure at fail safe is the faithful philandering forbearance
one could argue that building fallout shelters and stockpiling them with provisions for yet another recycled end of the world scenario is about as close as anyone could wish to get to feeling morally superior in a world where god followers consider mounting gps guided laser weapons systems as being the outstanding priority in the eyes of their chosen spirit father figure.
jesus may not do take out but boy he sure delivers every time an arrows looking for a quiver to ride along that river where destiny magically meets fortune as everyone mindlessly shivers.
sjw 03/24/2020 inspired at this very moment in time by the pri in priority.
from the 'beguiled series' of poems
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 25, 2020 10:18:41 GMT
Think about it though... it really is a balancing act between curbing COVID-19 and economy. because eventually the damage from a bad economy will be far worse for a lot more people than the lower risk of death for a tiny percentage of people. because the last I heard 98-99% will survive here in the USA. so obviously it's not worth totally destroying the economy for something that's not THAT high of a risk for a high percentage of people (it's not like boatloads of people are dying from COVID-19 (then I could easily see people being a lot more paranoid of death). the Spanish Flu (from 100 years ago) was far worse as that was the last legitimate virus threat to many people as roughly 50million people died, I heard some claim up to 100million).
because if they keep the country on lock-down for say 6 months or a year (or more), that's going to do far worse damage to the country then risking people dying from COVID-19. because at the end of the day... virus or no virus, people got to eat etc. I think this is especially true for those people who are mostly living paycheck to paycheck. they simply cannot afford to go without $ for too long before they get hit very hard. that's why I can't imagine them dragging this lock-down of the USA on for more than 2-3 months or so MAX.
besides... even if someone is a bit older, your chances of making it are still good. it's not a death sentence if you get COVID-19 if your say 70 years old even though your at a higher risk than younger people in general.
I get why he said it though. he was just being a bit concerned because he knows that's likely to happen for some if this bad economy from COVID-19 drags on for any length of time. but at the same time I get why some would frown on him saying it as we are trying to remain positive etc.
You got the wrong party as it's obviously the democrats who are the anti-Christian types in general. because you can see a general pattern in that those who are Christian and take it a bit more seriously tend to be republican and those atheist types tend to be liberal.
at the end of the day... republicans are the safer choice for the country in the long term as the democrats (or like Judge Jeanine calls them, 'demonrats') are too far left and they see morality as subjective instead of based around God's moral truth.
Well in general society needs to turn towards God but it's not likely to happen anytime soon as society gets more godless as the years/decades pass. basically something extreme would have to happen for their to be a chance for many to turn back towards God.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 25, 2020 12:49:26 GMT
Think about it though... it really is a balancing act between curbing COVID-19 and economy. because eventually the damage from a bad economy will be far worse for a lot more people than the lower risk of death for a tiny percentage of people. because the last I heard 98-99% will survive here in the USA. so obviously it's not worth totally destroying the economy for something that's not THAT high of a risk for a high percentage of people (it's not like boatloads of people are dying from COVID-19 (then I could easily see people being a lot more paranoid of death). the Spanish Flu (from 100 years ago) was far worse as that was the last legitimate virus threat to many people as roughly 50million people died, I heard some claim up to 100million). because if they keep the country on lock-down for say 6 months or a year (or more), that's going to do far worse damage to the country then risking people dying from COVID-19. because at the end of the day... virus or no virus, people got to eat etc. I think this is especially true for those people who are mostly living paycheck to paycheck. they simply cannot afford to go without $ for too long before they get hit very hard. that's why I can't imagine them dragging this lock-down of the USA on for more than 2-3 months or so MAX. besides... even if someone is a bit older, your chances of making it are still good. it's not a death sentence if you get COVID-19 if your say 70 years old even though your at a higher risk than younger people in general. I get why he said it though. he was just being a bit concerned because he knows that's likely to happen for some if this bad economy from COVID-19 drags on for any length of time. but at the same time I get why some would frown on him saying it as we are trying to remain positive etc. You got the wrong party as it's obviously the democrats who are the anti-Christian types in general. because you can see a general pattern in that those who are Christian and take it a bit more seriously tend to be republican and those atheist types tend to be liberal. at the end of the day... republicans are the safer choice for the country in the long term as the democrats (or like Judge Jeanine calls them, 'demonrats') are too far left and they see morality as subjective instead of based around God's moral truth. Well in general society needs to turn towards God but it's not likely to happen anytime soon as society gets more godless as the years/decades pass. basically something extreme would have to happen for their to be a chance for many to turn back towards God. "get why he said it though. he was just being a bit concerned because he knows that's likely to happen for some if this bad economy from COVID-19" He's concerned because he knows this could cost him the election and wants people to go out and buy stuff and keep the economy going even if it means people will die. For someone that's "pro-life" you sure seem quite content with death if it means the economy benefits from it. "I think this is especially true for those people who are mostly living paycheck to paycheck." Which is why we need things like universal healthcare, rent control, livable minimum wage, and free college. But you're probably against that. In fact countries with universal healthcare are dealing with the virus much better than we are because everyone is covered. Here you probably have quite a few poorer people that don't bother getting tested because they can't afford it and end up spreading it further. "it's not like boatloads of people are dying from COVID-19" That's because extra precautions are being taken to avoid contact and quarantine. South Korea in particular has taken great strdies to reducing the number of outbreaks: www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success
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Post by Zos on Mar 25, 2020 14:17:20 GMT
Not sure Jesus' brand of Socialism would go down well in the US. Anyway they have a wall to keep people like him out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 19:22:31 GMT
Not sure Jesus' brand of Socialism would go down well in the US. Anyway they have a wall to keep people like him out. Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 26, 2020 19:31:16 GMT
Not sure Jesus' brand of Socialism would go down well in the US. Anyway they have a wall to keep people like him out. Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak? Would Jesus be against welfare and social assistance, yes or no? Please actually answer instead of dodging (which you predictably will do)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 19:37:55 GMT
Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak? Would Jesus be against welfare and social assistance, yes or no? Please actually answer instead of dodging (which you predictably will do) One on one welfare and assistance for sure... Never once does he tell the government to do it. Now- if you think that Jesus wants the government to do these things... how many other things that Jesus commands should the government be charged with? Maybe the Great Commission... Please actually answer instead of dodging...
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 26, 2020 19:41:53 GMT
Would Jesus be against welfare and social assistance, yes or no? Please actually answer instead of dodging (which you predictably will do) One on one welfare and assistance for sure... Never once does he tell the government to do it. Now- if you think that Jesus wants the government to do these things... how many other things that Jesus commands should the government be charged with? Maybe the Great Commission... Please actually answer instead of dodging... You're dodging again. Would he be against government assistance to the poor (which is what welfare social assistance means)? "Now- if you think that Jesus wants the government to do these things... how many other things that Jesus commands should the government be charged with? Maybe the Great Commission... Please actually answer instead of dodging... " I can't "dodge" because I'm not even sure what that means, I just label it gibberish.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 20:00:03 GMT
One on one welfare and assistance for sure... Never once does he tell the government to do it. Now- if you think that Jesus wants the government to do these things... how many other things that Jesus commands should the government be charged with? Maybe the Great Commission... Please actually answer instead of dodging... You're dodging again. Would he be against government assistance to the poor (which is what welfare social assistance means)? "Now- if you think that Jesus wants the government to do these things... how many other things that Jesus commands should the government be charged with? Maybe the Great Commission... Please actually answer instead of dodging... " I can't "dodge" because I'm not even sure what that means, I just label it gibberish. Are you speaking of government welfare? Your lack of knowledge of the Great Commission and how it applies to this conversation tells me you aren't really qualified to be in this discussion yet.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 26, 2020 20:04:28 GMT
You're dodging again. Would he be against government assistance to the poor (which is what welfare social assistance means)? "Now- if you think that Jesus wants the government to do these things... how many other things that Jesus commands should the government be charged with? Maybe the Great Commission... Please actually answer instead of dodging... " I can't "dodge" because I'm not even sure what that means, I just label it gibberish. Are you speaking of government welfare? Your lack of knowledge of the Great Commission and how it applies to this conversation tells me you aren't really qualified to be in this discussion yet. "Are you speaking of government welfare?" Uh what else would I be referring to? Yes, would Jesus actually be against government welfare? Stop dodging and answer. "Your lack of knowledge of the Great Commission and how it applies to this conversation tells me you aren't really qualified to be in this discussion yet." So basically you're trying to ad hom and weasel out of answering the question. Thanks, just as I predicted.
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Post by amyghost on Mar 26, 2020 20:29:41 GMT
Not sure Jesus' brand of Socialism would go down well in the US. Anyway they have a wall to keep people like him out. Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak? Frankly, I'm always astounded at those who are okay with the notion that an alleged 'government of the people, by the people and for the people' (which requires revenues to be drawn from the people to support its existence) should be allowed to get away with the idea that this same government be permitted to have absolutely no responsibility for providing necessary services and protections to those citizens who supposedly compose it and give it its legitimacy in the first place. Why should a government that supposedly represents your interests as one of those citizens, and taxes you handsomely for the privilege, not take care of any of this 'stuff', pray tell?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:31:53 GMT
Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak? Frankly, I'm always astounded at those who are okay with the notion that an alleged 'government of the people, by the people and for the people' (which requires revenues to be drawn from the people to support its existence) should be allowed to get away with the idea that this same government be permitted to have absolutely no responsibility for providing necessary services and protections to those citizens who supposedly compose it and give it its legitimacy in the first place. Why should a government that supposedly represents your interests as one of those citizens, and taxes you handsomely for the privilege, not take care of any of this 'stuff', pray tell? Who says they can’t - we we vote for representation to make those calls... jesus never commanded it though
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 26, 2020 21:36:30 GMT
Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak? Frankly, I'm always astounded at those who are okay with the notion that an alleged 'government of the people, by the people and for the people' (which requires revenues to be drawn from the people to support its existence) should be allowed to get away with the idea that this same government be permitted to have absolutely no responsibility for providing necessary services and protections to those citizens who supposedly compose it and give it its legitimacy in the first place. Why should a government that supposedly represents your interests as one of those citizens, and taxes you handsomely for the privilege, not take care of any of this 'stuff', pray tell? Like with every other country facing the current crisis it is hard to see how the medical response in the USA will be anything else but government funded and led overall.
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Post by Zos on Mar 27, 2020 11:08:31 GMT
Where do you see Jesus requiring having the government take care of any of the stuff you speak? Would Jesus be against welfare and social assistance, yes or no? Please actually answer instead of dodging (which you predictably will do) Jebus lurvs guns and capitalism and America. And he'S WHITE.
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Post by amyghost on Mar 27, 2020 11:36:05 GMT
Frankly, I'm always astounded at those who are okay with the notion that an alleged 'government of the people, by the people and for the people' (which requires revenues to be drawn from the people to support its existence) should be allowed to get away with the idea that this same government be permitted to have absolutely no responsibility for providing necessary services and protections to those citizens who supposedly compose it and give it its legitimacy in the first place. Why should a government that supposedly represents your interests as one of those citizens, and taxes you handsomely for the privilege, not take care of any of this 'stuff', pray tell? Who says they can’t - we we vote for representation to make those calls... jesus never commanded it though Once more I feel fortunate that I don't base my thoughts of good government on what Jesus 'commands'. It's high time our government ceased doing so as well. And an appreciable percentage of our citizenry, though not, I firmly believe, the majority.
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Post by amyghost on Mar 27, 2020 11:39:35 GMT
Frankly, I'm always astounded at those who are okay with the notion that an alleged 'government of the people, by the people and for the people' (which requires revenues to be drawn from the people to support its existence) should be allowed to get away with the idea that this same government be permitted to have absolutely no responsibility for providing necessary services and protections to those citizens who supposedly compose it and give it its legitimacy in the first place. Why should a government that supposedly represents your interests as one of those citizens, and taxes you handsomely for the privilege, not take care of any of this 'stuff', pray tell? Like with every other country facing the current crisis it is hard to see how the medical response in the USA will be anything else but government funded and led overall. It will have to be in order to have any national effectiveness at all. And that in turn may lead to heightened public awareness that the government that it, the public, allegedly controls has got to start being more answerable to that public, more responsible in identifying and meeting its needs, and less kowtowing to a wealthy minority in rationing and de-funding those needed services so that this same wealthy minority can be allowed to prosper unhindered.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 11:48:01 GMT
Would Jesus be against welfare and social assistance, yes or no? Please actually answer instead of dodging (which you predictably will do) Jebus lurvs guns and capitalism and America. And he'S WHITE. I'm only Catholic laity... But I'm pretty sure that's all the opposite of what he loves 🤔 And Jesus was a black man.
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