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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Apr 26, 2017 12:11:13 GMT
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 26, 2017 12:33:34 GMT
Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
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Post by WullieFort on Apr 26, 2017 12:44:19 GMT
The Zombies reckon he retired 2 years ago
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 26, 2017 13:16:53 GMT
By his own admission, he bet on his own team to lose on several occasions between 2004-2011.
”Raised at the hearing was that between 2004 and 2011 I placed a handful of bets on my own team to lose matches. I accept of course that this is against the rules, for the obvious reason that a player with an additional financial stake in the game might seek to change the course of it for his own personal gain."
He goes on to offer up some 'context' in relation to this activity but in truth what can he possibly say? He placed bets on his own team to lose.
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 26, 2017 13:25:54 GMT
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Post by runie on Apr 26, 2017 13:44:44 GMT
By his own admission, he bet on his own team to lose on several occasions between 2004-2011.
”Raised at the hearing was that between 2004 and 2011 I placed a handful of bets on my own team to lose matches. I accept of course that this is against the rules, for the obvious reason that a player with an additional financial stake in the game might seek to change the course of it for his own personal gain."
He goes on to offer up some 'context' in relation to this activity but in truth what can he possibly say? He placed bets on his own team to lose. he wasnt involved in the match day squad in any of those bets. |
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 26, 2017 13:49:50 GMT
he wasnt involved in the match day squad in any of those bets.
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Post by runie on Apr 26, 2017 13:53:49 GMT
Your post cut that reality short and then instead of explaining exactly what happend you you said he provided context! just cut and paste what was in the article dude. Thats bad reporting from you  Its obvious he wasnt match fixing - and yes it does make a big difference . Yes he shouldnt bet and was rightly banned. But there is zero proof of match fixing - which is a much bigger issue. He is just an addict and one that bets with his emotions(he bet against his teams when he wasn't in the squad and bet for the team when he was involved!! - that proves the issue he has) |
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 26, 2017 14:01:52 GMT
Your post cut that reality short and then instead of explaining exactly what happend you you said he provided context! just cut and paste what was in the article dude. Thats bad reporting from you Its obvious he wasnt match fixing - and yes it does make a big difference . Yes he shouldnt bet and was rightly banned. But there is zero proof of match fixing - which is a much bigger issue. He is just an addict and one that bets with his emotions(he bet against his teams when he wasn't in the squad and bet for the team when he was involved!! - that proves the issue he has)
”Raised at the hearing was that between 2004 and 2011 I placed a handful of bets on my own team to lose matches. I accept of course that this is against the rules, for the obvious reason that a player with an additional financial stake in the game might seek to change the course of it for his own personal gain. However I’d like to offer some context.
“First, in every game I have played, I have given everything. I’m confident that anyone who has ever seen me play, or played with or against me, will confirm that to be the case. I am more aware than anyone that I have character issues that I struggle with, and my addictive personality is one of them, but I am a devoted and dedicated professional who has always given my all on the pitch.
“Second, on the few occasions where I placed a bet on my own team to lose, I was not involved in the match day squad for any of those games. I did not play. I was not even on the bench. I had no more ability to influence the outcome than had I been betting on darts, snooker, or a cricket match in the West Indies. I should add that on some of those occasions, my placing of the bet on my own team to lose was an expression of my anger and frustration at not being picked or being unable to play. I understand people will think that is childish and selfish and I cannot disagree with that.
“Third, I should point out that the last of these bets against my own team was six years ago [and in a reserve game], when I was going through a particularly troubled period, and when the FA were not nearly as hard on gambling as they are now.” |
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Post by runie on Apr 26, 2017 14:04:20 GMT
thanks But it does make a big difference imo. What do you think given that evidence? I think guilty of betting on football but for me no suspicion of match fixing - which is clearly a criminal charge rather than just a civil (FA) one. |
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 26, 2017 14:09:56 GMT
thanks But it does make a big difference imo. What do you think given that evidence? I think guilty of betting on football but for me no suspicion of match fixing - which is clearly a criminal charge rather than just a civil (FA) one. |
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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Apr 26, 2017 14:41:11 GMT
thanks But it does make a big difference imo. What do you think given that evidence? I think guilty of betting on football but for me no suspicion of match fixing - which is clearly a criminal charge rather than just a civil (FA) one. My understanding is that as part of any international transfer bans carry over. Pogba was banned from our opener this season because of a red card in some Italian cup, I think Suarez had the same thing after he bit someone in the Netherlands. |
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 26, 2017 14:44:37 GMT
Right. Thanks.
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