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Post by moviemouth on Apr 16, 2020 3:16:11 GMT
but what would you say about the acting styles. It's probably what fascinates me most about the movie, the past, present, and future of acting all in one scene. I have only seen the movie once, I just know that all of their styles meshed well in this movie. I never thought about the styles together in the way you are talking about.
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Post by rudeboy on Apr 16, 2020 3:24:19 GMT
I love Anatomy of a Murder but one thing I didn’t care for was Joseph Welch as the judge... I understand that his backstory was incredible but he wasn’t an actor, and that lack of experience is evident.
I agree on the generations point... Eve Arden and Arthur O’Connell represented the old guard whereas Scott/Gazzara were clearly dynamic faces of a new generation. In the middle was Jimmy Stewart saying ‘panties’, which must have seemed scandalous back then.
For the record I enjoy Ben-Hur quite a bit - although it goes on much too long- but don’t consider it worthy of recognition beyond the tech departments. Heston has the charisma to carry it but its not a role with much meat, and he’s not really craftsman enough to find hidden depths.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 16, 2020 3:28:44 GMT
I love Anatomy of a Murder but one thing I didn’t care for was Joseph Welch as the judge... I understand that his backstory was incredible but he wasn’t an actor, and that lack of experience is evident. I agree on the generations point... Eve Arden and Arthur O’Connell represented the old guard whereas Scott/Gazzara were clearly dynamic faces of a new generation. In the middle was Jimmy Stewart saying ‘panties’, which must have seemed scandalous back then. For the record I enjoy Ben-Hur quite a bit - although it goes on much too long- but don’t consider it worthy of recognition beyond the tech departments. Heston has the charisma to carry it but its not a role with much meat, and he’s not really craftsman enough to find hidden depths. Ben-Hur is a rare example of a very long movie that I could have watched for another 25 minutes or so. I think the length makes sure everything in the movie can be in the movie and I think if anything was taken out it would hurt it. I was glued to the screen in a way that rarely happens with me. Aguirre, The Wrath of God is another example of this. Towards the end of the movie I was literally standing while watching it I was so drawn in by every moment.
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Post by movielover on Apr 16, 2020 5:54:44 GMT
BEST ACTOR
1. James Stewart - Anatomy of a Murder
2. Charleton Heston - Ben-Hur
3. Jack Lemmon - Some Like It Hot
4. Robert Ryan - Day of the Outlaw
5. Cary Grant - North by Northwest
6. Paul Newman - The Young Philadelphians
BEST ACTRESS
1. Simone Signoret - Room at the Top
2. Elizabeth Taylor - Suddenly, Last Summer
3. Audrey Hepburn - A Nun's Story
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
1. George C. Scott - Anatomy of a Murder
2. Burl Ives - Day of the Outlaw
3. Orson Welles - Compulsion
4. Stephen Boyd - Ben-Hur
5. Hugh Griffith - Ben-Hur
6. Ben Gazzara - Anatomy of a Murder
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
1. Katharine Hepburn - Suddenly, Last Summer
2. Lee Remick - Anatomy of a Murder
3. Marilyn Monroe - Some Like It Hot
4. Eva Marie Saint - North by Northwest
5. Eve Arden - Anatomy of a Murder
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Post by rudeboy on Apr 16, 2020 6:01:36 GMT
BEST ACTRESS1. Elizabeth Taylor, Suddenly, Last Summer 2. Audrey Hepburn, A Nun's Story 3. Simone Signoret, Room at the Top
4. Joanne Woodward, The Sound and the Fury 5. Susan Cabot, The Wasp Woman BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS1. Katharine Hepburn, Suddenly, Last Summer 2. Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life 3. Lee Remick, Anatomy of a Murder 4. Marilyn Monroe, Some Like It Hot
5. Machiko Kyô, Floating Weeds For me both are lead (I can't believe I missed Signoret when I made my list, although it was arguably a 1958 film- I'll put her in, anyway) but if Signoret is lead, surely Monroe must be. Marilyn is the focus of and appears in a much larger proportion of her film than Simone.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 16, 2020 6:17:56 GMT
BEST ACTRESS1. Elizabeth Taylor, Suddenly, Last Summer 2. Audrey Hepburn, A Nun's Story 3. Simone Signoret, Room at the Top
4. Joanne Woodward, The Sound and the Fury 5. Susan Cabot, The Wasp Woman BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS1. Katharine Hepburn, Suddenly, Last Summer 2. Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life 3. Lee Remick, Anatomy of a Murder 4. Marilyn Monroe, Some Like It Hot
5. Machiko Kyô, Floating Weeds For me both are lead (I can't believe I missed Signoret when I made my list, although it was arguably a 1958 film- I'll put her in, anyway) but if Signoret is lead, surely Monroe must be. Marilyn is the focus of and appears in a much larger proportion of her film than Simone. You know what probably happened? I keep track of all my nominations as i watch the movies, but sometimes I forget. I likely went through 1959 months after I watched the movie and noticed that she won in lead. Marilyn Monroe I did consider supporting at the time I watched the movie, so I would probably agree with you if I watched Room at the Top again that Signoret is also supporting. I have no plans to watch that movie again though and will perhaps switch categories based on what you said once I am able to fill out my lead actress line-up without her. I don't really get hung up on category placement unless it is something like Ethan Hawke for Training Day. Nominating him in supporting is inexcusable category fraud. It isn't debatable in his case.
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Post by rudeboy on Apr 16, 2020 7:02:34 GMT
For me both are lead (I can't believe I missed Signoret when I made my list, although it was arguably a 1958 film- I'll put her in, anyway) but if Signoret is lead, surely Monroe must be. Marilyn is the focus of and appears in a much larger proportion of her film than Simone. You know what probably happened? I keep track of all my nominations as i watch the movies, but sometimes I forget. I likely went through 1959 months after I watched the movie and noticed that she won in lead. Marilyn Monroe I did consider supporting at the time I watched the movie, so I would probably agree with you if I watched Room at the Top again that Signoret is also supporting. I have no plans to watch that movie again though and will perhaps switch categories based on what you said once I am able to fill out my lead actress line-up without her. I don't really get hung up on category placement unless it is something like Ethan Hawke for Training Day. Nominating him in supporting is inexcusable category fraud. It isn't debatable in his case. I agree that Hawke’s placement was ridiculous, along with many others over the years, but I’d personally place Monroe on the same level, with the added stipulation that she gives one of the most iconic comedy performances in American cinema, and in a brilliant movie. But fair enough! You make good reasoning. While I also consider Signoret lead, she is simply one major character who drifts in and knit of Harvey’s story. That she so sublimely walks off with the film perhaps makes her role seen larger than it is. |
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Post by Archelaus on Feb 10, 2021 16:21:33 GMT
Best Actor
James Stewart in Anatomy of a Murder
Charlton Heston in Ben-Hur
Jack Lemmon, Some Like It Hot
Paul Newman, The Young Philadelphians
Laurence Harvey, Room at the Top
Best Actress
Millie Perkins, The Diary of Anne Frank
Elizabeth Taylor, Suddenly, Last Summer
Audrey Hepburn, The Nun's Story
Simone Signoret, Room at the Top
Emmanuelle Riva, Hiroshima, mon amour
Best Supporting Actor
Jack Hawkins, Ben-Hur
Stephen Boyd, Ben-Hur
George C. Scott, Anatomy of a Murder
Ben Gazzara, Anatomy of a Murder
Robert Vaughn, The Young Philadelphians
Best Supporting Actress
Juanita Moore, Imitation of Life
Shelley Winters, The Diary of Anne Frank
Katharine Hepburn, Suddenly, Last Summer
Edith Evans, The Nun's Story
Marilyn Monroe, Some Like It Hot
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Post by mikef6 on May 24, 2021 2:49:20 GMT
BEST ACTOR
Gregory Peck in On the Beach and Pork Chop Hill
James Stewart in Anatomy of a Murder
Kirk Douglas in The Devil's Disciple
Cary Grant in North by Northwest
Tony Curtis in Some Like It Hot
Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot
BEST ACTRESS
Marilyn Monroe in Some Like It Hot
Ava Gardner in On the Beach
Eva Marie Saint in North by Northwest
Simone Signoret in Room at the Top
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Fred Astaire in On the Beach
Laurence Olivier in The Devil's Disciple
James Mason in North by Northwest
Van Heflin in They Came to Cordura
George C. Scott in Anatomy Of A Murder
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Claire Maurier in Les Quatre Cents Coups (The 400 Blows)
Lee Remick in Anatomy of a Murder
Mamie Van Doren in Guns, Girls, and Gangsters
Gloria Grahame in Odds Against Tomorrow
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 5, 2021 18:37:20 GMT
BEST ACTOR1. James Stewart, Anatomy of a Murder 2. Charleton Heston, Ben-Hur 3. Jack Lemmon, Some Like It Hot 4. Robert Ryan, Day of the Outlaw 5. Cary Grant, North by Northwest 6. Paul Newman, The Young Philadelphians BEST ACTRESS1. Elizabeth Taylor, Suddenly, Last Summer 2. Audrey Hepburn, A Nun's Story BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR1. George C. Scott, Anatomy of a Murder 2. Burl Ives, Day of the Outlaw 3. Stephen Boyd, Ben-Hur 4. Hugh Griffith, Ben-Hur 5. Ben Gazzara, Anatomy of a Murder BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS1. Katharine Hepburn, Suddenly, Last Summer 2. Lee Remick, Anatomy of a Murder 3. Marilyn Monroe, Some Like It Hot 4. Eva Marie Saint, North by Northwest 5. Eve Arden, Anatomy of a Murder Yeah, so far 1959 is my weakest year for lead actress since 1938, but for 1938 it is only because I haven't seen even enough movies with a lead actress to even make a full 5.
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