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Post by dirtypillows on May 4, 2020 10:04:09 GMT
Escobar clearly does not like Jake one bit. I suspect he might even hate him. And I don't know why. Is it professional rivalry? Jealousy? Some hard feelings from the past?
The final scene where Jake says "It still is possible". First off, I'm not 100% sure I know what he is referring to with this comment. That corruption still exists?
But what's with Escobar's pissed off reaction? "What did you say? What did you say? GET HIM OUT OF HERE!" Why should this bother Escobar so much? Is he angry that Jake is straightforward in acknowledging the corruption in the L.A. police system? Is it his own guilt that he is embarrassed by? Is he supposed to be a bad guy? I find him highly unlikable.
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Post by theravenking on May 4, 2020 11:58:41 GMT
Isn't it implied that Jake had slept with his wife?
I always found that ending unnecessarily confusing and badly staged.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 4, 2020 14:30:22 GMT
Isn't it implied that Jake had slept with his wife? I always found that ending unnecessarily confusing and badly staged. Are you thinking about the scene where the other cop, Escobar's partner, seeks to provoke Jake and asks him "what happened to your nose? Did a window fall on it?" and Jake says "your wife got excited and closed her legs too fast"?? |
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Post by movielover on May 4, 2020 14:46:24 GMT
No, Jake said: "As little as possible." He's echoing a previous dialogue where Evelyn asked him what he did when he worked on the police force (in Chinatown), and Jake replies: "As little as possible."
The implication is that he (and Escobar who used to work with him when they were cops) didn't prosecute the powerful, they "played ball" with them so to speak, i.e. were on the take.
So when Noah Cross gets away with it at the end, Jake realizes what happened in Chinatown is happening all over again. This is why Escobar gets angry when Jake mumbles: "As little as possible" at the end, and why Jake's colleague says: " Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown."
Also, Jake told Evelyn in an earlier scene that when he used to work in Chinatown, there was a girl he'd tried to help, but only ended up making things worse for her...which is exactly what ends up happening between Jake and Evelyn! It's a tragic Deja vu for Jake, which is another reason why "Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown" is such a powerful, haunting line.
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Post by theravenking on May 4, 2020 15:15:18 GMT
Isn't it implied that Jake had slept with his wife? I always found that ending unnecessarily confusing and badly staged. Are you thinking about the scene where the other cop, Escobar's partner, seeks to provoke Jake and asks him "what happened to your nose? Did a window fall on it?" and Jake says "your wife got excited and closed her legs too fast"?? Yeah, that was the scene.
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Post by movielover on May 4, 2020 15:23:03 GMT
Are you thinking about the scene where the other cop, Escobar's partner, seeks to provoke Jake and asks him "what happened to your nose? Did a window fall on it?" and Jake says "your wife got excited and closed her legs too fast"?? Yeah, that was the scene. That's a shot at the other guy, not Escobar. And it's just a joke, I don't think he literally slept with his wife...lol. 
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Post by dirtypillows on May 4, 2020 15:26:43 GMT
Yeah, that was the scene. That's a shot at the other guy, not Escobar. And it's just a joke, I don't think he literally slept with his wife...lol. Yes, that was the other cop, Escobar's partner. And Jake said that to provoke because the guy is an asshole and Jake is a smart ass. |
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Post by dirtypillows on May 4, 2020 15:33:21 GMT
No, Jake said: " As little as possible." He's echoing a previous dialogue where Evelyn asked him what he did when he worked on the police force (in Chinatown), and Jake replies: "As little as possible." The implication is that he (and Escobar who used to work with him when they were cops) didn't prosecute the powerful, they "played ball" with them so to speak, i.e. were on the take. So when Noah Cross gets away with it at the end, Jake realizes what happened in Chinatown is happening all over again. This is why Escobar gets angry when Jake mumbles: "As little as possible" at the end, and why Jake's colleague says: " Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown." Also, Jake told Evelyn in an earlier scene that when he used to work in Chinatown, there was a girl he'd tried to help, but only ended up making things worse for her...which is exactly what ends up happening between Jake and Evelyn! It's a tragic Deja vu for Jake, which is another reason why "Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown" is such a powerful, haunting line. Ahhhh... that explains things better. So, Escobar doesn't like it when Jake is basically calling everyone out for "playing ball" and allowing evil Noah Cross to get away with it. |
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