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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 18:28:26 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tim-burton-radio-host-tell-mama-jailed-racist-islamophobic-fiyaz-mughal-a7707256.htmlSo after many people saying that Islamophobia would eventually be made a criminal offence in the UK here we have a man jailed for 12 weeks for exactly that. In the last two days one Muslim was arrested in possession of knives near the Houses of Parliament intent on committing another terror attack,another Muslim was convicted of planting a bomb on a train which failed to detonate(his brother had previously committed a terrorist attack). 6 Muslims were arrested on terror offences including one women who the police shot. And we're locking up this idiot because some Muslim had his feelings hurt. This country is fucked.
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Post by blade on Apr 28, 2017 18:45:05 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tim-burton-radio-host-tell-mama-jailed-racist-islamophobic-fiyaz-mughal-a7707256.htmlSo after many people saying that Islamophobia would eventually be made a criminal offence in the UK here we have a man jailed for 12 weeks for exactly that. In the last two days one Muslim was arrested in possession of knives near the Houses of Parliament intent on committing another terror attack,another Muslim was convicted of planting a bomb on a train which failed to detonate(his brother had previously committed a terrorist attack). 6 Muslims were arrested on terror offences including one women who the police shot. And we're locking up this idiot because some Muslim had his feelings hurt.
This country is fucked. Says the guy who looks up personal information on any poster that disagrees with him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 18:50:14 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tim-burton-radio-host-tell-mama-jailed-racist-islamophobic-fiyaz-mughal-a7707256.htmlSo after many people saying that Islamophobia would eventually be made a criminal offence in the UK here we have a man jailed for 12 weeks for exactly that. In the last two days one Muslim was arrested in possession of knives near the Houses of Parliament intent on committing another terror attack,another Muslim was convicted of planting a bomb on a train which failed to detonate(his brother had previously committed a terrorist attack). 6 Muslims were arrested on terror offences including one women who the police shot. And we're locking up this idiot because some Muslim had his feelings hurt.
This country is fucked. Says the guy who looks up personal information on any poster that disagrees with him. Reported for constantly following me from board to board posting off topic posts and insults.
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Post by blade on Apr 28, 2017 18:51:37 GMT
Says the guy who looks up personal information on any poster that disagrees with him. Reported for constantly following me from board to board posting off topic posts and insults. Exactly my point, you just got offended again. Act like an adult little man.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 28, 2017 18:53:06 GMT
It was clearly harassment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 19:04:55 GMT
It was clearly harassment. I won't argue with you there Smithy the guys obviously a nasty piece of work and a prick. The problem I have that harassment of this nature without the religious element would normally have resulted in a police caution and a restraining order against the accused. To impose a custodial sentence for such actions is deeply worrying when it comes to free speech in the UK and criticism of Islam in general.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 28, 2017 20:21:35 GMT
tpfkar Why would he keep emailing the guy after he was asked to stop? Especially with their history? What would authorities dealing with other offenders have to do with this guy's maniacal fixation? get out of my country
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Post by Karl Aksel on Apr 28, 2017 22:04:15 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tim-burton-radio-host-tell-mama-jailed-racist-islamophobic-fiyaz-mughal-a7707256.htmlSo after many people saying that Islamophobia would eventually be made a criminal offence in the UK here we have a man jailed for 12 weeks for exactly that. In the last two days one Muslim was arrested in possession of knives near the Houses of Parliament intent on committing another terror attack,another Muslim was convicted of planting a bomb on a train which failed to detonate(his brother had previously committed a terrorist attack). 6 Muslims were arrested on terror offences including one women who the police shot. And we're locking up this idiot because some Muslim had his feelings hurt. This country is fucked. No, he was arrested because of harassment. A crime which, in the UK, can carry a prison sentence up to five years. 12 weeks and a restraining order is not particularly harsh, all things considered.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 22:29:38 GMT
A very pathetic and silly law. The 'K' in 'United Kingdom' should stand for 'Kindergarten', because that's the way we're being governed with all of these "that man was mean to me" laws which abridge the right to freedom of expression.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 22:33:56 GMT
tpfkar Why would he keep emailing the guy after he was asked to stop? Especially with their history? get out of my countryHow about "why wouldn't the target just block the email address or refrain from reading/opening the emails if his feelings were so badly hurt rather than telling tales out of school"? Or would that be too mature a way of looking at the situation? How about if Vegas Devil reported you to the police for constantly responding to his posts, rather than blocking you? That's basically the same thing.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 28, 2017 22:45:05 GMT
tpfkar Do you really not have any idea of the difference between public discussion / responding to public post content and repeatedly trying to privately contact someone who's specifically asked to not be privately contacted, even without the previous legal conflict? If any of you pastry puffs "contacted the police" for that, they may well refer you to the department of mental health services out of concern that you don't have the basic sense to make it through the day without harming yourselves or others, IF they were able to recover from their paroxysms of laughter at your inane melodramatic, inapt analogies. flailing crash & burn
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 22:55:04 GMT
tpfkar Do you really not have any idea of the difference between public discussion / responding to public post content and repeatedly trying to privately contact someone who's specifically asked to not be privately contacted, even without the previous legal conflict? If any of you pastry puffs "contacted the police" for that, they may well refer you to the department of mental health services out of concern that you don't have the basic sense to make it through the day without harming yourselves or others, IF they were able to recover from their paroxysms of laughter at your inane melodramatic, inapt analogies. flailing crash & burnIt's not substansively different. By putting a user on IGHNOR it has been signalled that one no longer wishes to have further communications with a particular user. Or the user could simply state that they would prefer not to be responded to. As far as I'm aware, email servers also provide an IGHNOR function, so that the senders of hurtful emails can be blocked. Or even if they circumvent the block by utilising more than 1 email address, the recipient of the virulent tirades can delete them without fully reading the contents. The only meaningful difference is that when an individual is contacted through response to a publicly posted message, that has the potential to be publicly humiliating to the target. Moreover, it appears that the radio host was responding to publicly published content from the target in his messages.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 28, 2017 23:05:11 GMT
tpfkar First, you're once again absolutely unconcerned with veracity. I don't "constantly respond to anybody's posts" in particular, I respond to post content, especially when it's markedly hypocritical or inane or assholish, as you personally know very well from direct experience. Second it is so patently different it again questions your mental faculties. I'll respond to any public statement I feel like responding to. I won't break the law or even board rules doing that, but within that framework, nobody's ideas or patent bullsh!t is immune from criticism or sarcasm or excoriation or whatever. But that has nothing to do with somebody repeatedly refusing to desist in abusive private communications. it's the same thing!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 23:17:20 GMT
tpfkar First, you're once again absolutely unconcerned with veracity. I don't "constantly respond to anybody's posts" in particular, I respond to post content, especially when it's markedly hypocritical or inane or assholish, as you personally know very well from direct experience. Second it is so patently different it again questions your mental faculties. I'll respond to any public statement I feel like responding to. I won't break the law or even board rules doing that, but within that framework, nobody's ideas or patent bullsh!t is immune from criticism or sarcasm or excoriation or whatever. But that has nothing to do with somebody repeatedly refusing to desist in abusive private communications. it's the same thing!The most important difference is that in the case of public communications, the 'victim' has reason to feel that they are compelled to respond. Regarding "abusive private communications" the only injury to the 'victim' is that of wounded feelings. And even that can be avoided by blocking communications or refusing to read them. Even if the analogy is not spot-on, there is no reason why the law should concern itself with such a conflict. People should be expected to outgrow tattling on "abusive communications" by the time they've reached their 10th birthday; unless the remarks are public and demonstrably libellous in nature.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 28, 2017 23:24:54 GMT
tpfkar I really don't care that you want the right to unilaterally harass people. If it's important enough to you then do it; just be prepared for legal consequence. The most important difference is that it bears absolutely no material similarity to responding to public statements. Nobody gets to inoculate their stupidity from criticism. The entire thought process that spawned the analogy is a shattered one. it's the same thing!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 23:32:45 GMT
tpfkar I really don't care that you want the right to unilaterally harass people. If it's important enough to you then do it; just be prepared for legal consequence. The most important difference is that it bears absolutely no material similarity to responding to public statements. Nobody gets to inoculate their stupidity from criticism. The entire thought process that spawned the analogy is a shattered one. it's the same thing!Apparently, in many parts of Europe and other nations, Muslim get to inoculate the stupidity of their religion from criticism. And you find that acceptable.
Furthermore, even if it is not similar to responding to public statements, sending abusive private communications is actually a lesser infraction due to the fact that the recipient does not need to read the 'abuse', let alone defend themselves against a single abuser, whereas there would be a perceived need to do so if the 'abuse' (which in the case of Islam just seems to mean any opinion that is critical or derisory of the religion) was published publicly in response to a public comment.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 28, 2017 23:35:58 GMT
tpfkar In addition to the shattered nature of your thinking, you remain a free and easy liar. it's the same thing!
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Post by sublime92 on Apr 29, 2017 1:03:56 GMT
It's perplexing how the UK was at the forefront of free speech, drug use and a sexual liberation 50 years ago and now they've bent over to religion that despises all of that.
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Post by chasallnut on Apr 29, 2017 8:59:52 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tim-burton-radio-host-tell-mama-jailed-racist-islamophobic-fiyaz-mughal-a7707256.htmlSo after many people saying that Islamophobia would eventually be made a criminal offence in the UK here we have a man jailed for 12 weeks for exactly that. In the last two days one Muslim was arrested in possession of knives near the Houses of Parliament intent on committing another terror attack,another Muslim was convicted of planting a bomb on a train which failed to detonate(his brother had previously committed a terrorist attack). 6 Muslims were arrested on terror offences including one women who the police shot. And we're locking up this idiot because some Muslim had his feelings hurt. This country is fucked. It's not just Muslims though to be fair. Luciana Berger who is Jewish, was subjected to the most vile trolling. The guy was jailed for four weeks, and rightly so in my opinion.
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 29, 2017 12:56:57 GMT
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