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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 22:17:07 GMT
You'll be saying the same thing when pedophelia becomes the next trendy fad. Yes because obviously consensual sex between two grown adults of the same gender is the exact same as non-consensual sex between an adult and a child... Well, the pedophile community would like their way of life to be recognized as a legitimate alternative lifestyle with the same rights given to the LGBTQ.
Not a joke. And not entirely unexpected.
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Post by Jan El Señor on May 22, 2020 22:18:21 GMT
For the record, the CW is reportedly looking for another gay woman to play the character in season 2. Not sure why the actor actually needs to be gay. As long as the actor can convincingly act gay... I mean, that's the point of acting right? We've had multiple gay actors portray straight characters successfully. Chyler Leigh does a fine job of it on Supergirl....
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Post by dazz on May 23, 2020 13:21:43 GMT
Yes because obviously consensual sex between two grown adults of the same gender is the exact same as non-consensual sex between an adult and a child... Well, the pedophile community would like their way of life to be recognized as a legitimate alternative lifestyle with the same rights given to the LGBTQ.
Not a joke. And not entirely unexpected.
Well they can go fuck themselves and stop trying to fuck little kids while their at it.
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Post by johnspartan on May 23, 2020 14:40:26 GMT
Not sure why the actor actually needs to be gay. As long as the actor can convincingly act gay... I mean, that's the point of acting right? We've had multiple gay actors portray straight characters successfully. Replacing a lesbian actress with an actress who’s into men would probably not go over well with certain people. I don’t have any real opinion either way, but I’d imagine that the CW wants to avoid the potential backlash. They already faced a fair amount of controversy from when they killed off Sara Lance back in season 3 of Arrow. Well, the psychos who eat their own declared Ruby Rose wasn't gay enough when she was cast because she is bisexual. www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-45166592"Actress Ruby Rose has deleted her Twitter profile amid a backlash over her casting as Batwoman in a TV series. The Australian, who describes herself as "gender fluid", confirmed last week she would play the first openly lesbian superhero lead. Many celebrated the casting, but others suggested she was not right, saying a lesbian should play the character. Before deleting her account, Rose dismissed the criticism as the "most ridiculous thing".
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 23, 2020 16:08:22 GMT
Replacing a lesbian actress with an actress who’s into men would probably not go over well with certain people. I don’t have any real opinion either way, but I’d imagine that the CW wants to avoid the potential backlash. They already faced a fair amount of controversy from when they killed off Sara Lance back in season 3 of Arrow. Well, the psychos who eat their own declared Ruby Rose wasn't gay enough when she was cast because she is bisexual. www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-45166592"Actress Ruby Rose has deleted her Twitter profile amid a backlash over her casting as Batwoman in a TV series. The Australian, who describes herself as "gender fluid", confirmed last week she would play the first openly lesbian superhero lead. Many celebrated the casting, but others suggested she was not right, saying a lesbian should play the character. Before deleting her account, Rose dismissed the criticism as the "most ridiculous thing". Pretty sure Ruby Rose isn’t bisexual. She’s a full on lesbian.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 25, 2020 5:19:21 GMT
The series is doomed with or without her, they can find a better actress but a lot of good that will do given the terrible script writing.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 26, 2020 17:04:52 GMT
For the record, the CW is reportedly looking for another gay woman to play the character in season 2. Not sure why the actor actually needs to be gay. As long as the actor can convincingly act gay... I mean, that's the point of acting right? We've had multiple gay actors portray straight characters successfully. Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay.
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Post by johnspartan on May 26, 2020 20:26:03 GMT
Not sure why the actor actually needs to be gay. As long as the actor can convincingly act gay... I mean, that's the point of acting right? We've had multiple gay actors portray straight characters successfully. Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. True, Neil Patrick Harris should be deleted from every episode of How I Met Your Mother.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 27, 2020 19:36:23 GMT
Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. Depends on the performer really. I mean, no way is Billy Eichner believable as a straight character - see the first half of American Horror Story: Apocalypse for evidence(Meanwhile he played an eccentric, coked out, doped out, bisexual tech guru fine enough later on), but other actors such as John Barrowman, Jodie Foster, Luke Evans(For the most part anyway, didn't quite buy him enough as Gaston), Matt Bomer, Sarah Paulson, Jodie Foster, Victor Garber, Jane Lynch I have had no issue believing as straight on the screen. Just the same, I also was able to buy into Eric Stonestreet, Julianne Moore, Annette Benning, Sean Penn, Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal, Tom Hanks, Charlize Theron, Jared Leto, the late Robin Williams, the late Phillip Seymour Hoffman, and Hillary Swank as gay characters on the screen. Didn't buy John Barrowman and Victor Garber in the Arrowverse for a second. Well, thinking about the limited stuff I've seen Garber in (Alias and bits of Legally Blonde), I don't think I bought him as straight then either. Also, with both of their characters in the Arrowverse, they gave them wives, but never really had them interact. You see them as fathers, but never as husbands. Them being straight is mostly lip service and never seen. I remember Ezra Miller on Royal Pains and just how not in a relationship he was in with his girlfriend. Then you have those like Jodie Foster and Jane Lynch where it's like "Come on, buddy... Come on."
And if you notice a trend with the people you list is that they either are a single parent or super straight* or the wife/husband is away from them and they talk by phone. Maybe even say something to the wife and she leaves the room right away. No real interaction. When it's a straight actor playing gay then they are gay. You will know it. There is no lip service there. They will show that relationship/sexuality. Look at the difference between Jesse Tyler Ferguson and Eric Stonestreet. Stonestreet is flamboyant while Ferguson is just a guy in a gay relationship.
*Matt Bomer on White Collar... They made it a point to make the character have an awesome fashion sense as a character trait. Yeah, he was gay.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 27, 2020 19:58:25 GMT
Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. True, Neil Patrick Harris should be deleted from every episode of How I Met Your Mother. I've never watched that show, but wasn't he supposed to be a ladies' man? Did he ever have a lady on there? Everything I've seen of him on that show was him giving advice on relationships and getting women. As someone that has only seen clips of the show, he seems like a straight gay friend. You know that gay friend that women have in movies that give them dating advice. But the dude version. Maybe that's why they made him the ladies' man/player. Because the other 2 guys had love interests/a wife. Making him a ladies' man meant he can have stories about when he was "with a woman last night," but not really show him really interact. Look at Jim Parsons on Big Bang. They made his character so he has trouble interacting with people, but gave him a girlfriend that he is both close to and distant from so they seem more like good friends. 90% of the relationship stuff comes from her.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 27, 2020 20:53:23 GMT
True, Neil Patrick Harris should be deleted from every episode of How I Met Your Mother. I've never watched that show, but wasn't he supposed to be a ladies' man? Did he ever have a lady on there? Everything I've seen of him on that show was him giving advice on relationships and getting women. As someone that has only seen clips of the show, he seems like a straight gay friend. You know that gay friend that women have in movies that give them dating advice. But the dude version. Maybe that's why they made him the ladies' man/player. Because the other 2 guys had love interests/a wife. Making him a ladies' man meant he can have stories about when he was "with a woman last night," but not really show him really interact. Look at Jim Parsons on Big Bang. They made his character so he has trouble interacting with people, but gave him a girlfriend that he is both close to and distant from so they seem more like good friends. 90% of the relationship stuff comes from her.
Neil Patrick Harris’ character on that show was a love interest for Cobie Smulders’ character.
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Post by Jan El Señor on May 29, 2020 0:21:31 GMT
Not sure why the actor actually needs to be gay. As long as the actor can convincingly act gay... I mean, that's the point of acting right? We've had multiple gay actors portray straight characters successfully. Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. Dan Feuerriegel (Agron) sold me on Spartacus....
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Post by ThatGuy on May 29, 2020 17:31:17 GMT
Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. Dan Feuerriegel (Agron) sold me on Spartacus.... Do prison shows count? lol
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Post by Skaathar on May 31, 2020 16:52:31 GMT
Not sure why the actor actually needs to be gay. As long as the actor can convincingly act gay... I mean, that's the point of acting right? We've had multiple gay actors portray straight characters successfully. Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. That doesn't really have much to do about being straight or gay but by how well they can act and whether they have good chemistry with their partner. There have been straight actors playing straight couples on screen who's romance was completely flat, and straight actors who played gay couples who's romance was extremely powerful. There have also been gay actors portraying straight couples with very believable romances. Again, it all boils down to acting. It's not like you need to hire a real life murderer in order to portray a murderer on screen. Or a real life soldier to portray a soldier on screen. Etc.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 31, 2020 17:50:43 GMT
Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. That doesn't really have much to do about being straight or gay but by how well they can act and whether they have good chemistry with their partner. There have been straight actors playing straight couples on screen who's romance was completely flat, and straight actors who played gay couples who's romance was extremely powerful. There have also been gay actors portraying straight couples with very believable romances. Again, it all boils down to acting. It's not like you need to hire a real life murderer in order to portray a murderer on screen. Or a real life soldier to portray a soldier on screen. Etc. Again, it’s pretty obvious what their reasoning is. If they replaced a lesbian actress with an actress who isn’t a lesbian, there would inevitably be a vocal online backlash to it. I’m not saying the backlash would be justified, but it shouldn’t be a surprise that they’re trying to avoid Twitter outrage. Hell, there was a backlash when Ruby Rose was cast in the role, because of the fact that she isn’t Jewish. Some people even apparently thought she wasn’t “gay enough”, whatever that means.
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Post by Skaathar on May 31, 2020 17:54:58 GMT
That doesn't really have much to do about being straight or gay but by how well they can act and whether they have good chemistry with their partner. There have been straight actors playing straight couples on screen who's romance was completely flat, and straight actors who played gay couples who's romance was extremely powerful. There have also been gay actors portraying straight couples with very believable romances. Again, it all boils down to acting. It's not like you need to hire a real life murderer in order to portray a murderer on screen. Or a real life soldier to portray a soldier on screen. Etc. Again, it’s pretty obvious what their reasoning is. If they replaced a lesbian actress with an actress who isn’t a lesbian, there would inevitably be a vocal online backlash to it. I’m not saying the backlash would be justified, but it shouldn’t be a surprise that they’re trying to avoid Twitter outrage. Hell, there was a backlash when Ruby Rose was cast in the role, because of the fact that she isn’t Jewish. Some people even apparently thought she wasn’t “gay enough”, whatever that means. This reasoning I can accept. Not because gay actors are automatically better at playing gay roles but because they were trying to silence complaints. I don't agree with it but I get it.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 1, 2020 4:13:10 GMT
Not really. A lot of times they have less romantic scenes and the chemistry they don't have really shows. They come off like friends or siblings instead of lovers. Alex and Maggie's relationship is like they were just good friends. And that even felt like a straight woman experimenting (as it pretty much was when it started out). You can tell when an actor is pulling back from what the character is because they are actually straight or gay. That doesn't really have much to do about being straight or gay but by how well they can act and whether they have good chemistry with their partner. There have been straight actors playing straight couples on screen who's romance was completely flat, and straight actors who played gay couples who's romance was extremely powerful. There have also been gay actors portraying straight couples with very believable romances. Again, it all boils down to acting. It's not like you need to hire a real life murderer in order to portray a murderer on screen. Or a real life soldier to portray a soldier on screen. Etc. Then there are a lot of terrible actors out there. Like 99.9% of them.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 1, 2020 4:14:48 GMT
That doesn't really have much to do about being straight or gay but by how well they can act and whether they have good chemistry with their partner. There have been straight actors playing straight couples on screen who's romance was completely flat, and straight actors who played gay couples who's romance was extremely powerful. There have also been gay actors portraying straight couples with very believable romances. Again, it all boils down to acting. It's not like you need to hire a real life murderer in order to portray a murderer on screen. Or a real life soldier to portray a soldier on screen. Etc. Again, it’s pretty obvious what their reasoning is. If they replaced a lesbian actress with an actress who isn’t a lesbian, there would inevitably be a vocal online backlash to it. I’m not saying the backlash would be justified, but it shouldn’t be a surprise that they’re trying to avoid Twitter outrage. Hell, there was a backlash when Ruby Rose was cast in the role, because of the fact that she isn’t Jewish. Some people even apparently thought she wasn’t “gay enough”, whatever that means. Because she’s bi when the character is lesbian I guess.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 1, 2020 4:29:19 GMT
Again, it’s pretty obvious what their reasoning is. If they replaced a lesbian actress with an actress who isn’t a lesbian, there would inevitably be a vocal online backlash to it. I’m not saying the backlash would be justified, but it shouldn’t be a surprise that they’re trying to avoid Twitter outrage. Hell, there was a backlash when Ruby Rose was cast in the role, because of the fact that she isn’t Jewish. Some people even apparently thought she wasn’t “gay enough”, whatever that means. This reasoning I can accept. Not because gay actors are automatically better at playing gay roles but because they were trying to silence complaints. I don't agree with it but I get it. That’s like saying a woman isn’t automatically better at playing a woman than a man. A gay actor would play the character while a straight actor would try to be a gay character. You see the difference?
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Post by dazz on Jun 1, 2020 6:30:37 GMT
Again, it’s pretty obvious what their reasoning is. If they replaced a lesbian actress with an actress who isn’t a lesbian, there would inevitably be a vocal online backlash to it. I’m not saying the backlash would be justified, but it shouldn’t be a surprise that they’re trying to avoid Twitter outrage. Hell, there was a backlash when Ruby Rose was cast in the role, because of the fact that she isn’t Jewish. Some people even apparently thought she wasn’t “gay enough”, whatever that means. Because she’s bi when the character is lesbian I guess. I don't know where this came from but I never sar Ruby Rose identify as bisexual but as a lesbian, I think this is the thing people assumed she was bisexual and said that's not gay enough but Rose has claimed to have been out as a lesbian since her preteens.
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