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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jul 20, 2021 15:18:19 GMT
I think this looks pretty fucking great. 🤷🏻♂️ Also, if you willingly sat through Candyman 2 and/or 3, I don't know how you can complain about this one. It's been a long time, but I recall thinking Candyman 2 was ok. Same. I do need to revisit it, to be fair. But my point is, if we're willing to accept lesser sequels, why so much resistance to this? From what I've read, it's coming from a place of love/fandom and is supposed to tie into the original movie. Those are positive signs to me. That, and the trailer actually looks good!
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Post by quagsjonny on Jul 24, 2021 2:26:03 GMT
The towers have been razed.... Not when filmed.....
Tony and Virginia are bad actors.......
Why remake a classic? Write something original.
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Post by redcharge on Jul 28, 2021 22:35:44 GMT
i was looking forward to it but it looks like they are gonna try to import some BLM crap in it so thats a turn off. i still may see it or i may see Night House. Free Guy. or Dont Breathe part II instead
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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 30, 2021 14:53:43 GMT
i was looking forward to it but it looks like they are gonna try to import some BLM crap in it so thats a turn off. i still may see it or i may see Night House. Free Guy. or Dont Breathe part II instead Ummm candy man has always been political.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 30, 2021 17:51:45 GMT
i was looking forward to it but it looks like they are gonna try to import some BLM crap in it so thats a turn off. i still may see it or i may see Night House. Free Guy. or Dont Breathe part II instead Ummm candy man has always been political. That's like how somebody else on this board complained about the new Purge movie, quoting the synopsis and saying something like, 'Yeah, not political at all.'
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Post by Vits on Nov 1, 2021 9:30:42 GMT
CANDYMAN PART 1 5/10 CANDYMAN PART 2: FAREWELL TO THE FLESH 4/10 CANDYMAN PART 3: DAY OF THE DEAD 3/10 Why is CANDYMAN PART 4 (yes, that's essentially the real title) the best of the franchise? Well, PART 1 relied too much on jump scares. PART 2 spent most of the running time recycling its predecessor's elements. PART 3 was another rehash and, to top it all, it had bad performances. This new installment tries new things by expanding the lore and it executes them with well-crafted set pieces. Unfortunately, it doesn't reach its full potential. You see, the original combined a slasher flick plot with a gothic romance atmosphere. In fact, when the title character's tragic origin is told (as an urban legend), the scene contains the visual elements of a happy dream. Not to mention that listening to what happened is much more powerful than showing it... so naturally, the first two sequels made the super duper smart decision of providing a flashback. Anyway, the social commentary was used as a companion to a story where the emotions kept rising and rising, culminating in an operatic finale. Here, it always feels like the individuals who appear on the screen are secondary to the script's exploration of racial issues in Chicago (which is even more relevant today than it was in 1992), especially during the ending. In fact, an entire scene is dedicated to a group of high school students trying to summon the evil spirit... and they're never referenced again! Usually, when a horror movie shows a death at that point in the story, it then shows the heroes reacting to the news, so they can reflect on the situation as a whole. Also, one of those girls might've survived, so I was interested to see how she was going to explain what happened. Because the movie chose this approach, the characters aren't very compelling... whether they were meant to be or not. 6/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 16, 2022 20:00:42 GMT
Saw this over the weekend finally.
Kind of a mixed bag. For the most part it looks good and has a good deal of atmosphere. Some of the visual gags with the mirrors and the bees were inventive and eerie, and a lot of the imagery that came about because of the setting in the world of studio art and art sales and galleries was evocative and interesting. And even though it's not really relevant to the story, the shadow puppetry thing is cool and effective for exposition.
On the other hand, the art setting was strange. He was essentially an investigative reporter, and it seems like making him a painter was more about the visual atmosphere than it was about the story or character or the social commentary.
I think the cast is pretty strong overall. I liked the couple at the center of it, and the guy who tells our protagonist the background exposition has an air of gravitas and intensity. Yahya Abdul-Mateen who plays the lead role is obviously becoming something of a star now, and you can see why in this film. He carries the brunt of the movie and has a broad array of notes to play. He's likeable and charming at first, has his nerves and insecurities as the story progresses, has some good freakout moments as his descent starts to affect him more, can seem threatening when it gets out of control, and plays it well when they land at the final sequences. Without giving away too much; they may be lining up more for him to do in sequels.
But I didn't particularly like the social aspect of this version of this story. There are comments and ideas thrown around, and some of the discussions about gentrification and whatnot that work fairly well. How these black characters both feel the sting of oppression when they visit the ghettos in the city, and also feel guilty for being successful and being part of the supposed problem in her unbelievably gorgeous (and clealry monumentally expensive) Chicago aprtment is a novel, nuanced, and thoughtful angle into this story. Also the way the plot of the original movie is referenced and discussed by the characters feels genuine. Whether you agree with their assessment of what happened and how it was perceived or not, I think it's clearly inherently genuine and authentic to these characters and how they'd feel about things.
It is therefore unfortunate how shallow some of the rest of it is. All of the straight white characters are such caricatured bad guy stereotypes, and the way the cops are depicted is ridiculous. The final sequence involves a sort of reprise to what we saw in the early part of the story and is handled with even less nuance. I'm not opposed to this sort of commentary in this kind of movie, and much less so in this specific property. It's baked into the original film entirely and it belongs here too, and it makes perfect sense to apply it to this time period and to reflect and be relevant to the way these issues are discussed today. I just wish it was handled with some more elegance and insight, and again, nuance. It starts off with a heavy hand, scales it back a bit, and then finishes with an even heavier hand.
The change in the legend of the Tony Todd character is explained, and is at least creative. There's an approach her to point out that the old movie exists, and that the figure of Candyman is malleable. It plays somewhat well, to some degree, but then a cameo that occurs later sort of confuses the whole concept. It works to some degree, and I appreciate the idea to try something unusual for this sort of franchise film, but I'm not sure if it honors the past and sets a new platform as well as they think it does.
But the effects are mostly good, the cinematography is nice, there are some great makeup effects, and it's relatively entertaining if maybe a little rote and predictable at times. I'd say that it's ultimately average. It certainly could have been worse, but I also don't think it fulfilled the promise of some of its best elements.
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