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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 15, 2020 23:58:54 GMT
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Post by Nora on Jun 16, 2020 0:13:38 GMT
One piece of good news in 2020.   in theory... |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 16, 2020 0:21:50 GMT
One piece of good news in 2020. in theory... What do you mean? |
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Post by Nora on Jun 16, 2020 2:25:00 GMT
i mean that sadly in reality is much easier to discriminate (in spite of laws saying otherwise) and harder to pinpoint it exactly on the root cause. I have seen discrimination cases almost always backfire against Someone. In cases where I felt it was justified grounds to base it on, it didnt work out, and vice versa, its just such a delicate and complex area and so hard to prove and successfully have it go through trial. but, that being said, the way justice system works is changing in front of our very own yes, for better or for worse, its changing, so maybe this area will change with it. |
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Jun 16, 2020 18:23:53 GMT
In at-will states, a company can let you go for any reason that isn't discriminatory, or no reason at all. They can simply eliminate your job, change the title and some of the duties, and hire someone else to replace you. It's very difficult to prove discrimination; and if you're let go and they give you severance pay and a nice package, to collect, you literally have to sign your rights away.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 16, 2020 19:58:34 GMT
like Pinky said, they can basically screw you for next to nothing anything anyways. so my guess is that stuff in the topic just looks good on the surface to keep some happy. but in reality it means very little. but personally I would not be surprised if some places discriminate for political views that are not inline with the mainstream liberal views as I would assume a fair amount of conservatives have lost their job over BS politics which someone should never be allowed to fire someone over different political views. but like Pinky said, places can basically screw you for next to nothing, if not nothing. that's one reason I like unions as it gives more power to the people so places can't just fire you because they don't like you for some petty reason. but on the flip side, I think some people can abuse the union a bit to where they get away with too much. still, all-in-all I would rather have a union than not as it helps with job security as I think it's a bad idea to give companies too much power over their employees because many just don't care about people and treat them like a dime-a-dozen like they are expendable and profits are a higher priority than treating people decently. because some companies have no standards and it's all about the $ which is wrong as making a decent profit is one thing but placing profit so much higher than treating people decently is crossing the line as it's extreme greed. I would not be surprised if Jeff Bezos (of Amazon.com) is a bit greedy to as he's got WAYYYYYY more $ than he's ever going to need and could easy give employee's a decent bump in pay etc which would make their lives noticeably better with minimal loss on his end to where he would not really notice it in the big picture. but instead it's always about power/control/greed with these types instead of treating employees respectably etc. because I understand being a little greedy but after a certain point your the villain.
but with all of that said... assuming one was fired because of discrimination, even if it would be hard to prove, given the way today's political climate is, I would imagine it would be much easier for a LGBT type to sue and win than it would be for a conservative to sue and win.
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Post by mauricio on Jun 17, 2020 5:57:07 GMT
One piece of good news in 2020. The company I work for gets rid of whoever the f%^& they want to..............they just say they're "laid off"
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Post by politicidal on Jun 17, 2020 13:40:31 GMT
Good news, hope people are held to it. Bible Belt: No deal. |
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Jun 17, 2020 14:31:15 GMT
like Pinky said, they can basically screw you for next to nothing anything anyways. so my guess is that stuff in the topic just looks good on the surface to keep some happy. but in reality it means very little. but personally I would not be surprised if some places discriminate for political views that are not inline with the mainstream liberal views as I would assume a fair amount of conservatives have lost their job over BS politics which someone should never be allowed to fire someone over different political views. but like Pinky said, places can basically screw you for next to nothing, if not nothing. that's one reason I like unions as it gives more power to the people so places can't just fire you because they don't like you for some petty reason. but on the flip side, I think some people can abuse the union a bit to where they get away with too much. still, all-in-all I would rather have a union than not as it helps with job security as I think it's a bad idea to give companies too much power over their employees because many just don't care about people and treat them like a dime-a-dozen like they are expendable and profits are a higher priority than treating people decently. because some companies have no standards and it's all about the $ which is wrong as making a decent profit is one thing but placing profit so much higher than treating people decently is crossing the line as it's extreme greed. I would not be surprised if Jeff Bezos (of Amazon.com) is a bit greedy to as he's got WAYYYYYY more $ than he's ever going to need and could easy give employee's a decent bump in pay etc which would make their lives noticeably better with minimal loss on his end to where he would not really notice it in the big picture. but instead it's always about power/control/greed with these types instead of treating employees respectably etc. because I understand being a little greedy but after a certain point your the villain. but with all of that said... assuming one was fired because of discrimination, even if it would be hard to prove, given the way today's political climate is, I would imagine it would be much easier for a LGBT type to sue and win than it would be for a conservative to sue and win.
Oh please. You're trying to tell us that conservative and religious people are subjected to discrimination as much as gay people? It's not even comparable. This is true. |
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Jun 18, 2020 11:39:51 GMT
I've never been in a workplace where people were harassed or fired for being conservative or religious. Over political or religious views in general, it just doesn't happen. To be fair, I've never seen gay people fired either. But most the gay people I've worked with were closeted and never revealed their sexuality in the workplace. We are bullied into silence. Most my coworkers know I'm gay. But it's not discussed. I would like Miss Thaaang to give examples of people who were fired over politics or religion.
At my former job, there was a field manager who had religious Jesus messages under her email signature. She was repeatedly told by HR to remove them. She almost got fired because she'd stop for a few days, then start up again. They were preachy and overtly religious. Doing that in a business situation was so inappropriate. Same goes for that type of political posturing. |
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Post by sadsaak on Jun 18, 2020 12:46:25 GMT
The last time I was on wages there were 8 managers of whom 7 were women and all of whom were as queer as nine bob notes and no one got promoted unless they were one legged ethnic tranies It was a nothing job, reliant on local government grants so managed to stubble along for five years before imploding as a result of the Co Secretary's catamite's inability to manage basic book keeping.
A few tranies may get the sack for being tranies, but in most cases it will be because they are useless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 13:09:53 GMT
One piece of good news in 2020. Finally! This year has been terrible so hopefully it can still have a good ending |
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Post by loofapotato on Jun 20, 2020 3:46:54 GMT
Congress still hasn't strengthen anti-discriminatory workplace laws to be fully effective. |
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