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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 17, 2020 22:34:42 GMT
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Post by shannondegroot on Jun 17, 2020 23:08:15 GMT
Serial Rapist.
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Post by amyghost on Jun 18, 2020 5:16:45 GMT
I'll stick with innocent until proven guilty, though his claim of being persecuted because he's a Scientologist is a little shaky sounding.
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Post by amyghost on Jun 18, 2020 14:33:48 GMT
I'll stick with innocent until proven guilty, though his claim of being persecuted because he's a Scientologist is a little shaky sounding. You should see some of the comments on twitter that scientology covered it up. People are already labeling him guilty even before its gone to trial and any solid evidence has been made public. Not that rape cases from almost 20yrs ago would have a lot of evidence to go by, except anecdotal. He's not Trump though and likely won't get a pass. Typical that he'll be tried and found guilty in the press and court of public opinion long before anything comes to actual trial. It's worth some note that one of the three charges was dismissed because of insufficient evidence (a second was dropped because the statute of limitations had run out). Once more, rape is heinous and should be prosecuted when it's really occurred, but I remain skeptical of 20 year old allegations unless there's a very persuasive reason the victim remained silent for so long, i.e. if there's credible proof their life or welfare was endangered by publicly going after their attacker. Masterson isn't any particular power figure in Hollywood, so I suspect you're right and he'll end up being wolf-bait even if he is innocent of the charges.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 19, 2020 0:28:33 GMT
I'll stick with innocent until proven guilty, though his claim of being persecuted because he's a Scientologist is a little shaky sounding. You should see some of the comments on twitter that scientology covered it up. People are already labeling him guilty even before its gone to trial and any solid evidence has been made public. Not that rape cases from almost 20yrs ago would have a lot of evidence to go by, except anecdotal. He's not Trump though and likely won't get a pass. Re: claims of Scientology covering it up This is an organization that is known to have an "anything goes" policy when it comes to protecting its members and attacking its enemies. They once sent members into FBI offices to steal documents. They set up an elaborate ruse where a member befriended a critic of "the church", then after establishing the friendship recommended a shrink to the woman. The woman then told all of her innermost thoughts and secrets...and it turned out the "friend" and the shrink were both Scientologists who'd targets the woman because she was a critic, and used the info she reveal in the therapy sessions against her. They have falsely accused critics of being child molesters and rapists. So when Masterson was accused of rape, and his only alibi are members of "the church" who totally swear he didn't do it, I'm a bit dubious.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 19, 2020 0:35:09 GMT
You should see some of the comments on twitter that scientology covered it up. People are already labeling him guilty even before its gone to trial and any solid evidence has been made public. Not that rape cases from almost 20yrs ago would have a lot of evidence to go by, except anecdotal. He's not Trump though and likely won't get a pass. Typical that he'll be tried and found guilty in the press and court of public opinion long before anything comes to actual trial. It's worth some note that one of the three charges was dismissed because of insufficient evidence (a second was dropped because the statute of limitations had run out). Once more, rape is heinous and should be prosecuted when it's really occurred, but I remain skeptical of 20 year old allegations unless there's a very persuasive reason the victim remained silent for so long, i.e. if there's credible proof their life or welfare was endangered by publicly going after their attacker. Masterson isn't any particular power figure in Hollywood, so I suspect you're right and he'll end up being wolf-bait even if he is innocent of the charges. I could be wrong, but I believe in most of the cases (I believe there were five in total, with only three going forward to prosecution) the woman came forward long ago. Much like with the Cosby women, they just ignored until now. A few key points to me: * His only alibi in some of the cases are fellow members of his "church", which has a long history of lying to protect their own. * The woman's stories bare stark similarities. Sex criminals, like serial killers, tend to have an m.o., so the fact that the stories seem to all line up gives it credence * When they reopened the investigation a couple years ago, I remember reading that inside sources reported that they were having problems because some of the files pertaining to the investigation seems to be mysteriously missing. If you know about previous attempts by "the church" to hamper investigations into their its members, this raises a lot of questions.
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Post by amyghost on Jun 19, 2020 10:07:12 GMT
I'd have to say that at this point, much of the evidence seems to rely on anecdata, as it often does in these cases. Although rape victims still continue to be shamefully enough treated in many cases, it seems that each time we encounter one of these decades-old assaults that suddenly resurfaces, there's a predictable pattern of alleging that some massive coverup conspiracy went on, supposedly denying the victim in question a hearing the first time out when they claimed to have reported the attack in the first place. Though I'm sure cop negligence and indifference is prevalent enough, I begin to get a little dubious when almost precisely the identical template is presented by by each one of these putative victims as the reason their claim wasn't acted upon previously. It begins to sound just a bit much like an agreed-upon 'fallback' line.
That's not to say Masterton's innocent, off-hand. I'd want to see what further investigation has to say, as, in these types of case, it's almost always a sure bet that someone is deliberately lying about something.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Jul 10, 2020 22:06:26 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Jan 6, 2023 23:19:29 GMT
Ahead of the retrial, Masterson's lawyers have just filed a new motion to formally dismiss all counts against the actor.
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