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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 26, 2020 16:45:27 GMT
That’s my two cents. He’s not bad, per se, but I don’t think there was anything really remarkable about him in the role. Keaton’s a good actor, but I’ve always felt that he would’ve been more appropriate for someone like Scarecrow, Man-Bat or even the Joker. Keaton’s Bruce Wayne always just came across too much like your typical eccentric and reclusive Tim Burton character, and I frankly never found him very intimidating as Batman. I find it funny how people have been complaining about Robert Pattinson being too skinny for the role, when Michael Keaton was hardly a towering behemoth himself. At least Pattinson is tall.
Also, just as a side note, I do find it amusing how the climax of Batman Returns hinged on him trying to convince Selina not to kill Max Shreck, when he himself was killing people all throughout the movie. That’s not Keaton’s fault, but that really came out of nowhere.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 26, 2020 16:56:55 GMT
I kind of felt the same way. If we're being honest, he was underutilized in his own movie in the first Burton movie;I never liked how he kept getting his ass handed to him by that Ray Charles lookalike. But I did think Keaton's portrayal was handled slightly better in Returns. That ending plea is still bullshit however.
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Post by DarkManX on Jun 26, 2020 19:29:48 GMT
He's just being thrown into the movie so people will go see it showing just how much faith they have in The Flash to carry his own movie.
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Post by scabab on Jun 27, 2020 2:50:21 GMT
I thought he was good enough but he was really made to look better because the two actors who played the part afterwards weren't as good.
He isn't to Batman what Christopher Reeves, Robert Downey Jr or Hugh Jackman were to their characters anyway.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Jun 27, 2020 19:48:21 GMT
I thought he was good enough but he was really made to look better because the two actors who played the part afterwards weren't as good. He isn't to Batman what Christopher Reeves, Robert Downey Jr or Hugh Jackman were to their characters anyway.Actually he is, at least more so than any of the Batmen who followed him, even if some were arguably better than him in the role. No matter what, Michael Keaton is going to be remembered more as Batman than any of the actors who followed him, for two primary reasons: 1) He was the first actor to play Batman live-action onscreen after Adam West, who was the only live-action screen Batman in people's minds (and in reality) the world over for 23 years and continues to remain iconic after his death. 2) His was the first "dark" portrayal of The Dark Knight, at least in contrast to West's campy, pop cultural take on the character. None of the post-Keaton Batmen can claim or enjoy those distinctions. Also, Keaton was the first major live-action superhero actor since Christopher Reeve and paved the way for all the superhero movies and TV shows that followed, especially considering that the Batman movies were the only major big-budget superhero productions in the 1990s. So Keaton, along with Christopher Reeve, was the bridge between George Reeves, Adam West, and everyone else, in terms of live-action screen superheroes. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 27, 2020 21:39:57 GMT
But Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a bit eccentric and reclusive, at least when not pretending to be Joe Playboy. And Keaton is the only one besides maybe Affleck who seems crazy enough to dress like a bat and punch people.
The unfortunate irony is that he probably has the least to work with of all the Batmen.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 27, 2020 22:55:09 GMT
But Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a bit eccentric and reclusive, at least when not pretending to be Joe Playboy. And Keaton is the only one besides maybe Affleck who seems crazy enough to dress like a bat and punch people. The unfortunate irony is that he probably has the least to work with of all the Batmen. The problem is that even when he’s in the Bruce Wayne persona, Keaton’s Batman never comes across as someone who could pass himself off as a womanizing playboy. He always just comes across as an awkward guy who doesn’t quite get social conventions. Like I said, he’s too much like a typical Tim Burton protagonist in that regard. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 28, 2020 1:16:27 GMT
I think hes easily the best.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 28, 2020 3:04:45 GMT
But Bruce Wayne is supposed to be a bit eccentric and reclusive, at least when not pretending to be Joe Playboy. And Keaton is the only one besides maybe Affleck who seems crazy enough to dress like a bat and punch people. The unfortunate irony is that he probably has the least to work with of all the Batmen. The problem is that even when he’s in the Bruce Wayne persona, Keaton’s Batman never comes across as someone who could pass himself off as a womanizing playboy. He always just comes across as an awkward guy who doesn’t quite get social conventions. Like I said, he’s too much like a typical Tim Burton protagonist in that regard. They kinda just bypassed that playboy side entirely until Batman Begins. I wouldn't really blame Keaton. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 28, 2020 3:24:36 GMT
He is shorter than the comic book character. 5'9. In fact he is the same height as Chris O'Donnell.
If they had planned a Superman film with Reeve, Keaton would be way shorter than Reeve.
I remember the controversy when they picked him. People were worried he would be like Beetlejuice--since he wasn't, it was ok--but fact is, he is not resemble the comic book character, and because of his height, he looks really funny when he runs down an alley with that cape.
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Post by deembastille on Jun 28, 2020 6:18:55 GMT
Compared to whose portrayal? the only one I didn't like was Christian bale. the caped crusader is supposed to be slightly scary but not terrifying to the general, innocent public he is supposed to be protecting. bale was scary as shit!
I also never got the human portrayal from bale that you got from all the others... Keaton liked selena [as did I with him], kilmer took in dick grayson [although that was kind of written in anyway] and that supervisor guy who 'committed suicide' despite what the bylaws said about that with life insurance policy. Clooney took care of Alfred AND his niece.
for the love of god peter parker is 5 10!!!
I think his portrayal was fine, along with the others.... but the latter movies had an unfortunate director who focused on suit crotch, hiney and nipple shots!
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Post by merh on Jun 30, 2020 1:31:41 GMT
He is shorter than the comic book character. 5'9. In fact he is the same height as Chris O'Donnell. If they had planned a Superman film with Reeve, Keaton would be way shorter than Reeve. I remember the controversy when they picked him. People were worried he would be like Beetlejuice--since he wasn't, it was ok--but fact is, he is not resemble the comic book character, and because of his height, he looks really funny when he runs down an alley with that cape. The actors who played Hobbits & dwarves in Lord of the Rings were taller. Oh no! Chris Evans is only 6 ft tall! How could he portray Steve Rogers? Hemsworth is a quarter inch shy of 6 ft 3. HOW COULD THEY CAST HIM AS THOR?! The costume flowed the way Burton envisioned it or the costume would have been altered. Keaton is still the best Batman on screen |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 30, 2020 1:45:00 GMT
Oh no! Chris Evans is only 6 ft tall! How could he portray Steve Rogers? Aha! I knew there was something not right about him. Thanks for pointing it out.
If Michael Keaton is so great, then Chris O'Donnell should be able to be Robin along side him.
lol
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Post by merh on Jun 30, 2020 2:08:12 GMT
Oh no! Chris Evans is only 6 ft tall! How could he portray Steve Rogers? Aha! I knew there was something not right about him. Thanks for pointing it out.
If Michael Keaton is so great, then Chris O'Donnell should be able to be Robin along side him.
lol
Ebert called him Batbrat when he was first cast. But Keaton worked in the story. A kid, maybe entitled, sees his parents murdered before his eyes. Granted, I'm not a Batfan overall, but Keaton worked for falling into the gig. To me his Batman is far darker than Bale's. Keaton's Bats is an inch away from Joker. The only thing that keeps him on the side of the law is he believes he is on the side of good. |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 30, 2020 8:52:03 GMT
Keaton's Wayne isn't as suave as other portrayals of the character. He's socially awkward around women (to a point, at least) and a loner who seems to lack any close friendships with anyone other than Alfred. He comes across as very damaged and lonely and quite a bit unhinged. His remorseless use of lethal force against opponents further reinforces this impression.
Is he the definitive Batman? No. As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing. But he provided the non-comic reading world with its first representation of a truly dark, disturbed take on the eponymous character. Before him, Adam West was the face of Batman to the viewing public. Keaton changed everything. He defined a new type of Batman for an entire generation. Most incarnations of the character that have followed in the ensuing decades have owed a tremendous amount to this first serious depiction.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 30, 2020 15:52:41 GMT
He’s short and the Burton films are overrated. But stand him on a box and with different directors, he has potential.
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Post by merh on Jul 1, 2020 0:44:54 GMT
He’s short and the Burton films are overrated. But stand him on a box and with different directors, he has potential. You all make me think of this |
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Jul 12, 2020 18:55:19 GMT
Keaton's Wayne isn't as suave as other portrayals of the character. He's socially awkward around women (to a point, at least) and a loner who seems to lack any close friendships with anyone other than Alfred. He comes across as very damaged and lonely and quite a bit unhinged. His remorseless use of lethal force against opponents further reinforces this impression. Is he the definitive Batman? No. As far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing. But he provided the non-comic reading world with its first representation of a truly dark, disturbed take on the eponymous character. Before him, Adam West was the face of Batman to the viewing public. Keaton changed everything. He defined a new type of Batman for an entire generation. Most incarnations of the character that have followed in the ensuing decades have owed a tremendous amount to this first serious depiction. Exactly! And not only that, but his Batman began the trend of Bat actors having their eyes outlined with black makeup underneath the cowl. |
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