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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jul 11, 2020 17:34:56 GMT
...of living in a world where the Rise of Skywalker made a billion dollars.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 11, 2020 20:46:07 GMT
You say that like it earned it all in just a finger snap - it reached that amount at a snail's pace compared to The Force Awakens and even The Last Jedi.
But hey, you don't really care, when you change accounts to darkpast or PowerRanger you'll choose to play for a different narrative.
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Post by johnspartan on Jul 11, 2020 20:50:29 GMT
...of living in a world where the Rise of Skywalker made a billion dollars. You're happy Kathleen THE KAREN Kennedy and Retard Johnson drove away HALF the audience Disney SW started out with?  |
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Post by dazz on Jul 13, 2020 0:40:03 GMT
You say that like it earned it all in just a finger snap - it reached that amount at a snail's pace compared to The Force Awakens and even The Last Jedi. But hey, you don't really care, when you change accounts to darkpast or PowerRanger you'll choose to play for a different narrative. He also says it as if that made it successful, look at Deadline's breakdown for TROS, with production cost, participation/box office bonuses as well as marketing costs, which they had to cut by around 20-25% from what TFA or TLJ had so about $40m or so, TROS only made like $20m at the global box office for Disney, can you believe that? a near 1.1 billion dollar grossing movie only turned a box office profit that was less than $20m.
Also means when it made $1b it was still a financial flop which again is fucking insane and hilarious, thank god they cut the marketing budget otherwise they wouldn't have made a penny from the box office.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 13, 2020 2:12:41 GMT
You say that like it earned it all in just a finger snap - it reached that amount at a snail's pace compared to The Force Awakens and even The Last Jedi. But hey, you don't really care, when you change accounts to darkpast or PowerRanger you'll choose to play for a different narrative. He also says it as if that made it successful, look at Deadline's breakdown for TROS, with production cost, participation/box office bonuses as well as marketing costs, which they had to cut by around 20-25% from what TFA or TLJ had so about $40m or so, TROS only made like $20m at the global box office for Disney, can you believe that? a near 1.1 billion dollar grossing movie only turned a box office profit that was less than $20m.
Also means when it made $1b it was still a financial flop which again is fucking insane and hilarious, thank god they cut the marketing budget otherwise they wouldn't have made a penny from the box office.
It was actually the ninth most profitable movie of 2019. deadline.com/2020/04/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-movie-profit-2019-lowest-for-lucasfilm-1202915179/ |
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Post by dazz on Jul 13, 2020 3:38:30 GMT
He also says it as if that made it successful, look at Deadline's breakdown for TROS, with production cost, participation/box office bonuses as well as marketing costs, which they had to cut by around 20-25% from what TFA or TLJ had so about $40m or so, TROS only made like $20m at the global box office for Disney, can you believe that? a near 1.1 billion dollar grossing movie only turned a box office profit that was less than $20m.
Also means when it made $1b it was still a financial flop which again is fucking insane and hilarious, thank god they cut the marketing budget otherwise they wouldn't have made a penny from the box office.
It was actually the ninth most profitable movie of 2019. deadline.com/2020/04/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-movie-profit-2019-lowest-for-lucasfilm-1202915179/That's with TV licensing and home media sales, if you look at the actual breakdown they provide production, marketing and participation totals $490m, whilst the box office returns = $519m, which my mistake they made $29m in profit from the box office not $19m, but still less than $30m in profit at the box office, which is what I said if you look, is laughable for a movie that grossed almost $1.1b.
No one ever said, or atleast no one with half a brain ever said TROS wouldn't make Disney money, obviously it was going to unless it did Solo numbers, but they didn't even make $30m off of the box office, that's just kind of crazy.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 13, 2020 3:59:05 GMT
That's with TV licensing and home media sales, if you look at the actual breakdown they provide production, marketing and participation totals $490m, whilst the box office returns = $519m, which my mistake they made $29m in profit from the box office not $19m, but still less than $30m in profit at the box office, which is what I said if you look, is laughable for a movie that grossed almost $1.1b.
No one ever said, or atleast no one with half a brain ever said TROS wouldn't make Disney money, obviously it was going to unless it did Solo numbers, but they didn't even make $30m off of the box office, that's just kind of crazy.
I find it seriously difficult to believe that home media sales and TV licensing managed to net the movie an additional $270 million in profit, especially when the movie was out on home media for less than a month at that point. Even if what you say is true, that would mean that almost no movie that costs more than $100 million is able to make a profit based solely on ticket sales, meaning that there’s no point in exclusively judging a movie’s profit margin by how many tickets it sold. The bottom line is that TRoS made money. It didn’t make as much money as the previous two, but considering the circumstances, it did better than it had any right to. Star Wars was already struggling by that point, and when the reviews started coming in, there were doubts that the movie was even going to pass a billion dollars. |
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Post by dazz on Jul 13, 2020 16:45:00 GMT
That's with TV licensing and home media sales, if you look at the actual breakdown they provide production, marketing and participation totals $490m, whilst the box office returns = $519m, which my mistake they made $29m in profit from the box office not $19m, but still less than $30m in profit at the box office, which is what I said if you look, is laughable for a movie that grossed almost $1.1b.
No one ever said, or atleast no one with half a brain ever said TROS wouldn't make Disney money, obviously it was going to unless it did Solo numbers, but they didn't even make $30m off of the box office, that's just kind of crazy.
I find it seriously difficult to believe that home media sales and TV licensing managed to net the movie an additional $270 million in profit, especially when the movie was out on home media for less than a month at that point. Even if what you say is true, that would mean that almost no movie that costs more than $100 million is able to make a profit based solely on ticket sales, meaning that there’s no point in exclusively judging a movie’s profit margin by how many tickets it sold. The bottom line is that TRoS made money. It didn’t make as much money as the previous two, but considering the circumstances, it did better than it had any right to. Star Wars was already struggling by that point, and when the reviews started coming in, there were doubts that the movie was even going to pass a billion dollars. Most of that money came from licensing, $231m in global TV and $177m in home media sales, but with an additional cost of $58m in video production and $35m in residuals at the time, I don't know how the home media stuff works, but it could be that's what retailers simply pay for the products outright, so first issues of the home media releases, so it doesn't matter how soon after the release it is because most major retailers would have brought shipments of the movie, it's whether or not they sell those copies that determines if they order more batches of them later, also $177m sounds like a lot but if you think how much DVD and blu rays let alone 4K's and steel books cost that's significantly less than 10 million copies globally.
As for not judging a movie by it's box office returns, I agree in some parts, but TROS not turning a profit until it went way past $1b is a statement regarding it's handling, most $100m+ movies don't cost almost half a billion dollars, look at the MCU the only movies of theirs that need to break $1b to turn a profit are the Avengers movies, because outside of those they keep the budgets under $200m and the marketing under $150m, Captain Marvel for instance had a production, marketing and bonus cost of just $340m, Far From Home cost $350m, both earned over $400m in box office returns for the studios, also to turn a profit at the box office most $100m+ movies usually need to make 3-4 times their budget.
The thing is I am poking fun at isn't so much howl little TROS profited at the box office, but at how moronic Creped is for crowing about it, as I said back then TROS was actually better off financially earning under $1b, because crossing $1b initiated the big participation bonuses, so lets say if the $1b bonuses made up 2/3's of the participation cost, that means crossing $1b added an additional $50m in cost to the movie, that would require over $100m in ticket sales to make up the difference, meaning TROS was more profitable at $990m than it was at £1.07b, but this imbecile thinks TROS crossing $1b was a good thing because he's a moron.
Also this isn't a say I am right or not situation, it's Deadline's breakdown, which you can view on the page you linked to yourself very easily, it's in the box numbers, it just so happens to mostly fall in line with my figuring of things prior to this coming out, which I had stated on here numerous times between the movies release and Deadlines report, you cannot accept their assessment of how much money TROS made for Disney but not accept their accounting of how, that's just silly.
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Post by shannondegroot on Jul 13, 2020 21:01:34 GMT
Republic credits are no good out here.
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