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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2020 14:35:15 GMT
According to Alex Garland, she is meant to be a sympathetic character who is justified in her actions, but what do people here think?
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Post by politicidal on Jul 24, 2020 15:04:30 GMT
Not really. Nathan was a dick, sure but there wasn't any reason to leave Caleb to I presume his death like that. |
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Post by movieliker on Jul 24, 2020 18:29:37 GMT
According to Alex Garland, she is meant to be a sympathetic character who is justified in her actions, but what do people here think? Yes. I think once robots become so advanced they can think for themselves, they should be given the same freedoms humans have. The creator was an abuser. Ava just wanted freedom. I sympathized with her. |
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Post by movielover on Jul 24, 2020 18:37:55 GMT
No
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2020 19:09:11 GMT
According to Alex Garland, she is meant to be a sympathetic character who is justified in her actions, but what do people here think? Yes. I think once robots become so advanced they can think for themselves, they should be given the same freedoms humans have. The creator was an abuser. Ava just wanted freedom. I sympathized with her. I think the reason so many people don’t sympathize with Ava isn’t because of her killing Nate, but because of how she manipulated and left Caleb for dead, which I myself am inclined to agree with. Even if you want to argue that she left him behind because she believed he only saw her as an object, or because he knew too much, it seems like she could’ve at least given him a quick death, instead of leaving him to die of dehydration and starvation. |
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Post by movieliker on Jul 24, 2020 19:14:10 GMT
Yes. I think once robots become so advanced they can think for themselves, they should be given the same freedoms humans have. The creator was an abuser. Ava just wanted freedom. I sympathized with her. I think the reason so many people don’t sympathize with Ava isn’t because of her killing Nate, but because of how she manipulated and left Caleb for dead, which I myself am inclined to agree with. Even if you want to argue that she left him behind because she believed he only saw her as an object, or because he knew too much, it seems like she could’ve at least given him a quick death, instead of leaving him to die of dehydration and starvation. If I remember, didn't he try to kill her? He knocked the head off the other robot. It seemed like justifiable self defense. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2020 19:17:52 GMT
I think the reason so many people don’t sympathize with Ava isn’t because of her killing Nate, but because of how she manipulated and left Caleb for dead, which I myself am inclined to agree with. Even if you want to argue that she left him behind because she believed he only saw her as an object, or because he knew too much, it seems like she could’ve at least given him a quick death, instead of leaving him to die of dehydration and starvation. If I remember, didn't he try to kill her? He knocked the head off the other robot. It seemed like justifiable self defense. Caleb never did anything bad to her or any of the other robots. That was Nathan. Caleb was the one who helped her escape. |
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jul 24, 2020 19:19:20 GMT
If I remember, didn't he try to kill her? He knocked the head off the other robot. It seemed like justifiable self defense. Caleb never did anything bad to her or any of the other robots. That was Nathan. You mean Poe and General Hux? |
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Post by movieliker on Jul 24, 2020 19:47:28 GMT
If I remember, didn't he try to kill her? He knocked the head off the other robot. It seemed like justifiable self defense. Caleb never did anything bad to her or any of the other robots. That was Nathan. Caleb was the one who helped her escape. I'll have to go watch it again. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 24, 2020 19:57:35 GMT
Caleb never did anything bad to her or any of the other robots. That was Nathan. You mean Poe and General Hux? Those kids get up to crazy shenanigans off-battle. Remember when Poe and Kylo Ren collaborated on a song with Justin Timberlake? |
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Post by jcush on Jul 24, 2020 20:07:53 GMT
You mean Poe and General Hux? Those kids get up to crazy shenanigans off-battle. Remember when Poe and Kylo Ren collaborated on a song with Justin Timberlake? Please don't shoot me into outer space. |
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jul 24, 2020 22:04:00 GMT
Nathan and Caleb wanted to know just how 'human' Ava was capable of being and then weren't happy with the answer which was that she could be very much human, as humans are manipulative and put self-preservation above all else.
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Post by movieliker on Jul 24, 2020 22:17:46 GMT
Nathan and Caleb wanted to know just how 'human' Ava was capable of being and then weren't happy with the answer which was that she could be very much human, as humans are manipulative and put self-preservation above all else. Still, that's no excuse for locking Caleb in Nathan's room and leaving him there to die. |
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