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Post by politicidal on Jul 25, 2020 23:58:56 GMT
Which also included an alien invasion and introduce XMEN characters Warlock and Karma.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 27, 2020 16:45:03 GMT
Even more shitty movies from Fox. Thankfully we weren't subjected to this.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 27, 2020 22:23:59 GMT
Aren't all these movies the "start of a trilogy"?
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 13:50:30 GMT
Even more shitty movies from Fox. Thankfully we weren't subjected to this. Didn't new mutants trailer get better reaction that black widow? talk of shitty MCU fans.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 14:35:57 GMT
Even more shitty movies from Fox. Thankfully we weren't subjected to this. Didn't new mutants trailer get better reaction that black widow? talk of shitty MCU fans. Good trailer =/= good film
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 14:47:44 GMT
Didn't new mutants trailer get better reaction that black widow? talk of shitty MCU fans. Good trailer =/= good film more like track record. New Mutants was crafted in the same lines as Logan, Deadpool, X-Men 1. Black widow just looks bland and like another generic mcu movie. I think the track record is more with new mutants to turn out better. Also new mutants was meant to bring something new. tell a comic book horror tale. if that works. it will be good for the genre. black widow has nothing to offer. from the two movies, new mutants look more interesting.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 15:00:41 GMT
Good trailer =/= good film more like track record. New Mutants was crafted in the same lines as Logan, Deadpool, X-Men 1. Black widow just looks bland and like another generic mcu movie. I think the track record is more with new mutants to turn out better. Also new mutants was meant to bring something new. tell a comic book horror tale. if that works. it will be good for the genre. black widow has nothing to offer. from the two movies, new mutants look more interesting. If you're talking about track record, X-Men series is clearly worse in that regard. Remember Dark Phoenix? I do, and it sucked.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 15:35:59 GMT
more like track record. New Mutants was crafted in the same lines as Logan, Deadpool, X-Men 1. Black widow just looks bland and like another generic mcu movie. I think the track record is more with new mutants to turn out better. Also new mutants was meant to bring something new. tell a comic book horror tale. if that works. it will be good for the genre. black widow has nothing to offer. from the two movies, new mutants look more interesting. If you're talking about track record, X-Men series is clearly worse in that regard. Remember Dark Phoenix? I do, and it sucked. why the change of goal post? the track record of new mutant is not DP. it is logan, deadpool. DP track record is more in line with X3, Apocalypse Remember this is xmen, the marvel series where it is down to how talented the director and writer is. DP sucked because Kingerg sucks. Sorry but I will place my bet higher with new mutants been better than black widow.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 15:45:24 GMT
If you're talking about track record, X-Men series is clearly worse in that regard. Remember Dark Phoenix? I do, and it sucked. why the change of goal post? the track record of new mutant is not DP. it is logan, deadpool. DP track record is more in line with X3, Apocalypse Remember this is xmen, the marvel series where it is down to how talented the director and writer is. DP sucked because Kingerg sucks. Sorry but I will place my bet higher with new mutants been better than black widow. I find it hilarious that you're claiming that I'm changing the goal post when it's actually YOU who are changing the goal post. Just a moment ago, you said this: "New Mutants was crafted in the same lines as Logan, Deadpool, X-Men 1." If you're going to include a main series film, then you can't take out Dark Phoenix from the series either. Basically, this whole series is a hit-or-miss. Only the time will decide if The New Mutant is good or not. Also, hiring a talented director doesn't mean that a film will become a success. Remember Fifty Shades Darker?
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 15:51:17 GMT
why the change of goal post? the track record of new mutant is not DP. it is logan, deadpool. DP track record is more in line with X3, Apocalypse Remember this is xmen, the marvel series where it is down to how talented the director and writer is. DP sucked because Kingerg sucks. Sorry but I will place my bet higher with new mutants been better than black widow. I find it hilarious that you're claiming that I'm changing the goal post when it's actually YOU who are changing the goal post. Just a moment ago, you said this: "New Mutants was crafted in the same lines as Logan, Deadpool, X-Men 1." If you're going to include a main series film, then you can't take out Dark Phoenix from the series either. Basically, this whole series is a hit-or-miss. Only the time will decide if The New Mutant is good or not. Also, hiring a talented director doesn't mean that a film will become a success. Remember Fifty Shades Darker? nice try. LOL. Dont worry New Mutants is going to be superior to every MCU movie and will be better than black widow that has nothing to offer. the whole series is hit or miss but look at the facts. their more experimental stand alone like logan and deadpool were not misses. new mutants was following that. that is fact, you credibility goes when you reject that. it is of fact that most of the misses came when Kinberg was doing heavy lifting and he has nothing to do with this film except producing credits. speaking of highly talented directors remember MCU has many talented directors and actors that got wasted because all they had to do was green screen stuff and not act or direct? MCU fans been scared of new mutants is more proof why the film should be released ASAP. marvel needs this movie to show they can do more than kids comedy action.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 16:08:33 GMT
I find it hilarious that you're claiming that I'm changing the goal post when it's actually YOU who are changing the goal post. Just a moment ago, you said this: "New Mutants was crafted in the same lines as Logan, Deadpool, X-Men 1." If you're going to include a main series film, then you can't take out Dark Phoenix from the series either. Basically, this whole series is a hit-or-miss. Only the time will decide if The New Mutant is good or not. Also, hiring a talented director doesn't mean that a film will become a success. Remember Fifty Shades Darker? nice try. LOL. Dont worry New Mutants is going to be superior to every MCU movie and will be better than black widow that has nothing to offer. the whole series is hit or miss but look at the facts. their more experimental stand alone like logan and deadpool were not misses. new mutants was following that. that is fact, you credibility goes when you reject that. it is of fact that most of the misses came when Kinberg was doing heavy lifting and he has nothing to do with this film except producing credits. speaking of highly talented directors remember MCU has many talented directors and actors that got wasted because all they had to do was green screen stuff and not act or direct? MCU fans been scared of new mutants is more proof why the film should be released ASAP. marvel needs this movie to show they can do more than kids comedy action. Well, their first attempt at experimentation went south big time ( X-Men Origins: Wolverine), so for all I know, the same thing could happen to The New Mutants (okay, The Wolverine was a better effort, but it still had some issues during the 3rd act). And the way it looks, Black Widow might be a rare DC/Marvel adaptation that is trying to refrain from relying too much on sci-fi/fantasy elements, so I would say that's still something. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Kinberg has a sole screenplay credit for Days of Future Past, so that point of yours is moot. Also, are you seriously trying to suggest that X-Men films don't use green screen? Finally, I don't see any MCU films scared of The New Mutants. I mean, I'm certainly not.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 16:16:44 GMT
nice try. LOL. Dont worry New Mutants is going to be superior to every MCU movie and will be better than black widow that has nothing to offer. the whole series is hit or miss but look at the facts. their more experimental stand alone like logan and deadpool were not misses. new mutants was following that. that is fact, you credibility goes when you reject that. it is of fact that most of the misses came when Kinberg was doing heavy lifting and he has nothing to do with this film except producing credits. speaking of highly talented directors remember MCU has many talented directors and actors that got wasted because all they had to do was green screen stuff and not act or direct? MCU fans been scared of new mutants is more proof why the film should be released ASAP. marvel needs this movie to show they can do more than kids comedy action. Well, their first attempt at experimentation went south big time ( X-Men Origins: Wolverine), so for all I know, the same thing could happen to The New Mutants (okay, The Wolverine was a better effort, but it still had some issues during the 3rd act). And the way it looks, Black Widow might be a rare DC/Marvel adaptation that is trying to refrain from relying too much on sci-fi/fantasy elements, so I would say that's still something. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Kinberg has a sole screenplay credit for Days of Future Past, so that point of yours is moot. Also, are you seriously trying to suggest that X-Men films don't use green screen? Finally, I don't see any MCU films scared of The New Mutants. I mean, I'm certainly not. xmen origins was not experimental. it was a prequel movie to xmen 1. lol You seem to be trying hard to ignore the facts. new mutants was the next wave of experimental films. it did not want to really connect to any other film. it was meant to be a stand alone and dive into more horror, mixed with a comic source material. Sorry to also disappoint you that Kinberg was wildly known for taking credit for DOFP but everyone including actual marvel fans knew the truth that it was Mathew Vaughn that solely wrote the film with Bryan Singer. xmen uses green screen but their best films rely more on practical effects and their main actors give great performances. that elevates their movie. mcu fans are scared. why else do they not want the film to be released. also if the film is great, it hurts dr strange 2 and mcu since mcu is banning dr strange from embracing horror something new mutants would have done with ease and black widow been comedy and looking like captain marvel with tone and visual style does not help. sorry mcu fans, the walls have cracked, you cannot pretend anymore that marvel is just dumb childish Disney fun.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 16:26:38 GMT
Well, their first attempt at experimentation went south big time ( X-Men Origins: Wolverine), so for all I know, the same thing could happen to The New Mutants (okay, The Wolverine was a better effort, but it still had some issues during the 3rd act). And the way it looks, Black Widow might be a rare DC/Marvel adaptation that is trying to refrain from relying too much on sci-fi/fantasy elements, so I would say that's still something. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Kinberg has a sole screenplay credit for Days of Future Past, so that point of yours is moot. Also, are you seriously trying to suggest that X-Men films don't use green screen? Finally, I don't see any MCU films scared of The New Mutants. I mean, I'm certainly not. xmen origins was not experimental. it was a prequel movie to xmen 1. lol You seem to be trying hard to ignore the facts. new mutants was the next wave of experimental films. it did not want to really connect to any other film. it was meant to be a stand alone and dive into more horror, mixed with a comic source material. Sorry to also disappoint you that Kinberg was wildly known for taking credit for DOFP but everyone including actual marvel fans knew the truth that it was Mathew Vaughn that solely wrote the film with Bryan Singer. xmen uses green screen but their best films rely more on practical effects and their main actors give great performances. that elevates their movie. mcu fans are scared. why else do they not want the film to be released. also if the film is great, it hurts dr strange 2 and mcu since mcu is banning dr strange from embracing horror something new mutants would have done with ease and black widow been comedy and looking like captain marvel with tone and visual style does not help. sorry mcu fans, the walls have cracked, you cannot pretend anymore that marvel is just dumb childish Disney fun. I find that hard to believe since they were trying to make X-Men Origins: Magneto, but because X-Men Origins: Wolverine didn't do so well, they scrapped the former and made X-Men: First Class instead. Only the time will tell whether the experimentation was worth it. Your delusion is now starting to affect my mental state as well. It's true that Matthew Vaughn wrote the story for Days of Future Past, but he wasn't alone in this as he co-wrote the story with Jane Goldman and (gasp!) Simon Kinberg, and no, Singer doesn't have any writing credit for Days of Future Past. Also, Black Widow is going to be a "comedy"? Have you seen the actual trailer? Aside from something that involves Red Guardian(?), the film's tone seems to be pretty dark overall. Finally, are you trying to turn me into an MCU hater/Fox X-Men fan? Because right now, all you're doing is the exact opposite.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 16:39:29 GMT
xmen origins was not experimental. it was a prequel movie to xmen 1. lol You seem to be trying hard to ignore the facts. new mutants was the next wave of experimental films. it did not want to really connect to any other film. it was meant to be a stand alone and dive into more horror, mixed with a comic source material. Sorry to also disappoint you that Kinberg was wildly known for taking credit for DOFP but everyone including actual marvel fans knew the truth that it was Mathew Vaughn that solely wrote the film with Bryan Singer. xmen uses green screen but their best films rely more on practical effects and their main actors give great performances. that elevates their movie. mcu fans are scared. why else do they not want the film to be released. also if the film is great, it hurts dr strange 2 and mcu since mcu is banning dr strange from embracing horror something new mutants would have done with ease and black widow been comedy and looking like captain marvel with tone and visual style does not help. sorry mcu fans, the walls have cracked, you cannot pretend anymore that marvel is just dumb childish Disney fun. I find that hard to believe since they were trying to make X-Men Origins: Magneto, but because X-Men Origins: Wolverine didn't do so well, they scrapped the former and made X-Men: First Class instead. Only the time will tell whether the experimentation was worth it. Your delusion is now starting to affect my mental state as well. It's true that Matthew Vaughn wrote the story for Days of Future Past, but he wasn't alone in this as he co-wrote the story with Jane Goldman and (gasp!) Simon Kinberg, and no, Singer doesn't have any writing credit for Days of Future Past. Also, Black Widow is going to be a "comedy"? Have you seen the actual trailer? Aside from something that involves Red Guardian(?), the film's tone seems to be pretty dark overall. Finally, are you trying to turn me into an MCU hater/Fox X-Men fan? Because right now, all you're doing is the exact opposite. I see two films with 2 factual track records. MCU fans you have every right to be scared. can i also point out that most of dark phoenix stuff did not look good. every dark phoenix footage was bland like captain marvel and now black widow new mutants looks more int resting. a first try at a horror marvel film. marvel fans are curious if this can join logan and deadpool with pushing comic book story telling limits. MCU are hating on new mutants telling us it will be bad all day to save face that MCU can only make kid friendly formula comedy.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 16:54:38 GMT
I find that hard to believe since they were trying to make X-Men Origins: Magneto, but because X-Men Origins: Wolverine didn't do so well, they scrapped the former and made X-Men: First Class instead. Only the time will tell whether the experimentation was worth it. Your delusion is now starting to affect my mental state as well. It's true that Matthew Vaughn wrote the story for Days of Future Past, but he wasn't alone in this as he co-wrote the story with Jane Goldman and (gasp!) Simon Kinberg, and no, Singer doesn't have any writing credit for Days of Future Past. Also, Black Widow is going to be a "comedy"? Have you seen the actual trailer? Aside from something that involves Red Guardian(?), the film's tone seems to be pretty dark overall. Finally, are you trying to turn me into an MCU hater/Fox X-Men fan? Because right now, all you're doing is the exact opposite. I see two films with 2 factual track records. MCU fans you have every right to be scared. can i also point out that most of dark phoenix stuff did not look good. every dark phoenix footage was bland like captain marvel and now black widow new mutants looks more int resting. a first try at a horror marvel film. marvel fans are curious if this can join logan and deadpool with pushing comic book story telling limits. MCU are hating on new mutants telling us it will be bad all day to save face that MCU can only make kid friendly formula comedy. Dark Phoenix was made when Fox was still in charge, so your point is still moot. Also, does Black Widow seriously look like a comedy film for you? I certainly don't think it looks like one.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 16:58:57 GMT
I see two films with 2 factual track records. MCU fans you have every right to be scared. can i also point out that most of dark phoenix stuff did not look good. every dark phoenix footage was bland like captain marvel and now black widow new mutants looks more int resting. a first try at a horror marvel film. marvel fans are curious if this can join logan and deadpool with pushing comic book story telling limits. MCU are hating on new mutants telling us it will be bad all day to save face that MCU can only make kid friendly formula comedy. Dark Phoenix was made when Fox was still in charge, so your point is still moot. Also, does Black Widow seriously look like a comedy film for you? I certainly don't think it looks like one. cosmicbook.news/disney-fox-sabotages-dark-phoenix-captain-marvel-brie-larsonDISNEY/FOX 'SABOTAGES' DARK PHOENIX FOR CAPTAIN MARVEL AND BRIE LARSON
I always knew MCU had a lot of bad stuff and thought it could never get worse but when the fans wont accept facts. oh well. meanwhile I will wait patiently FOR new mutants and watch the movie bring a lot of good for the comic genre with a horror style twist and creative smaller indie vibe. while black widow becomes another mcu cooperate flavour of the week movie.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 17:02:08 GMT
Dark Phoenix was made when Fox was still in charge, so your point is still moot. Also, does Black Widow seriously look like a comedy film for you? I certainly don't think it looks like one. cosmicbook.news/disney-fox-sabotages-dark-phoenix-captain-marvel-brie-larsonDISNEY/FOX 'SABOTAGES' DARK PHOENIX FOR CAPTAIN MARVEL AND BRIE LARSON
I always knew MCU had a lot of bad stuff and thought it could never get worse but when the fans wont accept facts. oh well. meanwhile I will wait patiently FOR new mutants and watch the movie bring a lot of good for the comic genre with a horror style twist and creative smaller indie vibe. while black widow becomes another mcu cooperate flavour of the week movie. Cosmic Book News is run by an alt-right piece of sh!t who has a tendency to make things up. All you're doing by posting that link is further proving that you'll believe any anti-MCU news no matter how accurate it is.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 17:04:27 GMT
cosmicbook.news/disney-fox-sabotages-dark-phoenix-captain-marvel-brie-larsonDISNEY/FOX 'SABOTAGES' DARK PHOENIX FOR CAPTAIN MARVEL AND BRIE LARSON
I always knew MCU had a lot of bad stuff and thought it could never get worse but when the fans wont accept facts. oh well. meanwhile I will wait patiently FOR new mutants and watch the movie bring a lot of good for the comic genre with a horror style twist and creative smaller indie vibe. while black widow becomes another mcu cooperate flavour of the week movie. Cosmic Book News is run by an alt-right piece of sh!t who has a tendency to make things up. All you're doing by posting that link is further proving that you'll believe any anti-MCU news no matter how accurate it is. Um, no it was confired by KINBERG and many other sources that are not alt right like screen rant, av club and comic book movie news.avclub.com/an-early-version-of-dark-phoenix-was-so-much-like-capta-1835424641so it is fact that disney had the end talk on what the film should be. kinberg started a mess. Disney help complete it.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 31, 2020 17:08:05 GMT
Cosmic Book News is run by an alt-right piece of sh!t who has a tendency to make things up. All you're doing by posting that link is further proving that you'll believe any anti-MCU news no matter how accurate it is. Um, no it was confired by KINBERG and man other sources that are not alt right like screen rant, av club and comic book movie news.avclub.com/an-early-version-of-dark-phoenix-was-so-much-like-capta-1835424641so it is fact that disney had the end talk on what the film should be. kinberg started a mess. Disney help complete it. Simon Kinberg may have said that, but that doesn't mean that what he's saying is absolutely true. And why are you blaming Disney for what happened to a point where seem to strongly believe that Disney is the one who ordered changes to Dark Phoenix? Again, do you not see the possibility of the whole thing being Fox's knee-jerk reaction to Captain Marvel? And if you wanted to boost your credibility, you should've thought of this before posting that alt-right BS.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 31, 2020 17:24:04 GMT
Simon Kinberg may have said that, but that doesn't mean that what he's saying is absolutely true. And why are you blaming Disney for what happened to a point where seem to strongly believe that Disney is the one who ordered changes to Dark Phoenix? Again, do you not see the possibility of the whole thing being Fox's knee-jerk reaction to Captain Marvel? And if you wanted to boost your credibility, you should've thought of this before posting that alt-right BS. its true. it was confirmed by many other sources and kinberg just said that was the case. since when is comic book movie, screen rant and av club alt right? comic book movie is even a mcu shill site. lol I feel sorry for you. liking mcu has made you so crazy that you would never accept facts. is it worth it. there used to be crazy nolan fans back then but they still could accept some truths. you are of the chains.
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