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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 19, 2022 18:48:04 GMT
Reportedly, Terrifier 2 audiences passed out during screenings in the US last week.
That old chestnut. Were there ambulances on site too? The National Guard was posted outside theaters in case of Art the Clown copycats.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Oct 24, 2022 21:55:13 GMT
I liked it a lot. A lot of fun, Art is great, the final girl is really attractive and likeable and it has a lot of excellent practical gore fx. Definitely better than the first. And I gotta say it probably has the nastiest death scene I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen close to 2000 horror movies.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 24, 2022 23:01:59 GMT
I liked it a lot. A lot of fun, Art is great, the final girl is really attractive and likeable and it has a lot of excellent practical gore fx. Definitely better than the first. And I gotta say it probably has the nastiest death scene I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen close to 2000 horror movies. I don't know if I'll bother. These movies are just too edgelord for me and your final line isn't reassuring. A coworker did tell me the ending which sounds hilarious. I wish he'd leave that poor faceless girl alone.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 25, 2022 15:08:28 GMT
I liked it a lot. A lot of fun, Art is great, the final girl is really attractive and likeable and it has a lot of excellent practical gore fx. Definitely better than the first. And I gotta say it probably has the nastiest death scene I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen close to 2000 horror movies. Everyone seems to be saying that it's especially gory and brutal, but that it's very much lacking in story and character. Which is OK, and sounds entirely in line with the first movie. Some of the over the top brutality and gore can be tiresome and dumb, but there's an artistry to even that kind of thing that I can appreciate if done well. I was mildly impressed by the first one, on that front, and even the look of it, if not much else. I'm not all that excited, but I'll probably give it a look.
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Post by jjamp48 on Oct 25, 2022 23:09:01 GMT
I liked it a lot. A lot of fun, Art is great, the final girl is really attractive and likeable and it has a lot of excellent practical gore fx. Definitely better than the first. And I gotta say it probably has the nastiest death scene I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen close to 2000 horror movies. Everyone seems to be saying that it's especially gory and brutal, but that it's very much lacking in story and character. Which is OK, and sounds entirely in line with the first movie. Some of the over the top brutality and gore can be tiresome and dumb, but there's an artistry to even that kind of thing that I can appreciate if done well. I was mildly impressed by the first one, on that front, and even the look of it, if not much else. I'm not all that excited, but I'll probably give it a look. There is a noticeable attempt to include more story and character, but we're not talking about anything complex here. The first one was so bare bones in that department that anything would have been an increase. There's certainly nothing there to justify a two hour and twenty minute movie though. You REALLY feel it by the end. I feel like those talking about these unfathomable levels of gore and violence didn't see the first one, because anyone who saw the first one knows exactly what to expect. It's all just accordingly adjusted to the bigger budget and it is mostly well done. Even more than the first, it seems to reach these levels of absurdity. Some of it is so over the top that my reaction was to just shake my head and chuckle - probably at some of the moments that are upsetting people. If you liked the original then you're almost guaranteed to like this. There are some truly inspired moments - the Clown Cafe dream comes to mind. It's definitely going for the bigger, more amped up tone and they mostly succeeded. With the heightened level of absurdity, I thought this one had a better sense of humor and I found myself laughing and enjoying myself more than with the original. I don't really recall having much fun with Terrifier. There is much talk about Art The Clown being the next great horror villain, and he certainly makes his admirable bid here. However, I think it's going to take a slightly bigger push than what this film's got to bring Art to the masses. He's getting close though. I felt myself warming up to him more than I previously had. Honestly, given the not that excited vibe, there's no hurry to see this. There's better new horror right now, either in theaters or new to streaming. This will still be around next Halloween to watch. I would definitely say it's absolutely worth checking out, at some point, if you like the first one.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 27, 2022 21:27:43 GMT
There is much talk about Art The Clown being the next great horror villain, and he certainly makes his admirable bid here. However, I think it's going to take a slightly bigger push than what this film's got to bring Art to the masses. He's getting close though. I felt myself warming up to him more than I previously had. I vote give him to a different director. Maybe someone who doesn't headbang to White Zombie while browsing ogrish. Honestly, I like Art, or at least the guy playing him, but he's stuck in some really bad movies. Even if I were the kinda guy who enjoyed watching topless women get sawn in half vagina-first, these movies aren't even very well made. The first Terrifier is downright amateur.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 28, 2022 2:12:52 GMT
I vote give him to a different director. Maybe someone who doesn't headbang to White Zombie while browsing ogrish. Honestly, I like Art, or at least the guy playing him, but he's stuck in some really bad movies. Even if I were the kinda guy who enjoyed watching topless women get sawn in half vagina-first, these movies aren't even very well made. The first Terrifier is downright amateur. Haven't seen this one, but the movie in which he originally appeared, All Hallow's Eve, was not especially violent or gory, and was pretty impressive for clearly having been made on a very low budget. I'm guessing that this guy's main selling point for raising money was that he was gonna up the shock value and that since he was an effects guy he could do all the considerable gore on the cheap. Not really my thing (maybe sometimes when it's tongue in cheek and embraces the absurdity of it all), but it certainly seems to have people talking. So I guess he's got that going for him.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 28, 2022 3:01:07 GMT
I vote give him to a different director. Maybe someone who doesn't headbang to White Zombie while browsing ogrish. Honestly, I like Art, or at least the guy playing him, but he's stuck in some really bad movies. Even if I were the kinda guy who enjoyed watching topless women get sawn in half vagina-first, these movies aren't even very well made. The first Terrifier is downright amateur. Haven't seen this one, but the movie in which he originally appeared, All Hallow's Eve, was not especially violent or gory, and was pretty impressive for clearly having been made on a very low budget. I'm guessing that this guy's main selling point for raising money was that he was gonna up the shock value and that since he was an effects guy he could do all the considerable gore on the cheap. Not really my thing (maybe sometimes when it's tongue in cheek and embraces the absurdity of it all), but it certainly seems to have people talking. So I guess he's got that going for him. I just remember All Hallows Eve being nearly unwatchable. The guy I was watching with up and left on the middle, in fact.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Oct 28, 2022 3:42:35 GMT
I liked it a lot. A lot of fun, Art is great, the final girl is really attractive and likeable and it has a lot of excellent practical gore fx. Definitely better than the first. And I gotta say it probably has the nastiest death scene I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen close to 2000 horror movies. I fully agree. And Im guessing the death you are talking about is the one in the bedroom. Because that got to me.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Oct 28, 2022 3:43:06 GMT
I seen it and I liked. Little overlong though.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 28, 2022 3:55:10 GMT
Haven't seen this one, but the movie in which he originally appeared, All Hallow's Eve, was not especially violent or gory, and was pretty impressive for clearly having been made on a very low budget. I'm guessing that this guy's main selling point for raising money was that he was gonna up the shock value and that since he was an effects guy he could do all the considerable gore on the cheap. Not really my thing (maybe sometimes when it's tongue in cheek and embraces the absurdity of it all), but it certainly seems to have people talking. So I guess he's got that going for him. I just remember All Hallows Eve being nearly unwatchable. The guy I was watching with up and left on the middle, in fact. I think that's overly harsh. I remember it being weak, and mostly not very memorable outside of the look of the clown, but nothing approaching unwatchable. I've seen many worse anthologies. Hell, I've seen worse anthologies set on Halloween involving a clown.
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Post by nicktatler76 on Oct 28, 2022 20:56:35 GMT
Part of the bedroom scene is on YouTube. This looks really good
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 29, 2022 14:53:19 GMT
I just remember All Hallows Eve being nearly unwatchable. The guy I was watching with up and left on the middle, in fact. I think that's overly harsh. I remember it being weak, and mostly not very memorable outside of the look of the clown, but nothing approaching unwatchable. I've seen many worse anthologies. Hell, I've seen worse anthologies set on Halloween involving a clown. Well, it proved literally unwatchable for that guy. The only reason I didn't turn it off as well was because I was already 50 minutes in.
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Post by merh on Oct 30, 2022 0:06:23 GMT
I liked it a lot. A lot of fun, Art is great, the final girl is really attractive and likeable and it has a lot of excellent practical gore fx. Definitely better than the first. And I gotta say it probably has the nastiest death scene I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen close to 2000 horror movies. My kid who loves the Saw movies (hate them. too gory for me) felt this was the goriest ever. To me the blood gushes so excessively & the skin getting cut/peeled was pretty plastic. All I could think in the beginning kill was Maxwells silver hammer.
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Post by nicktatler76 on Oct 30, 2022 17:20:38 GMT
Watching it tonight. The problem is with this 'people fainting and puking in the cinema' thing is you end up being disappointed- we had people saying Hostel and Human Centipede 2 were the 'nastiest film ever' and- while they had their moments- they weren't that bad if you grew up on horror.
I've seen clips and it looks impressive but I'm not expecting anything worse than A Serbian Film, some of the Italo horror from the 80s (Lucio Fulci etc) or the Japanese stuff such as Guinea Pig. Or even The Viper getting his head squished in GOT.
But the main thing is- real horror is back. Practical effects on a low budget rather than that CGI/scary face filtered shite that Blumhouse churn out, killer phone apps or 90 minutes 'found footage' of someone falling out of a bed 😀
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Post by nicktatler76 on Oct 31, 2022 19:39:38 GMT
Watched it last night. The runtime was far too long, 90 minutes would have been fine. Some good kills but if anyone was genuinely sick or faint then they really need to watch more horror movies! Seen a lot worse from Fulci or the Japanese scene.
Standout killings were the coroner, the store guy and of course Allie, although the bedroom scene had a couple of errors. We see Art break open Allie's back and also split her hand in half, but when she's on the floor these wounds aren't there. Also, the killing of Sienna's friend in the toilet near the end: you can tell that's not flesh around her chest wound, it doesn't move right.
The post credit scene was typically OTT and nuts, but pretty tame compared to something like Xtro.
The electronic music was great, gave the film an 70s/80s Italo/grindhouse feel just like the first film. Sienna and her brother were likeable (she was hot AF in the party costume) and Art's mannerisms and facial expressions brought some much needed humour to the proceedings.
I was a little confused with the mythology. Who was the clown girl? Why could only Art see her in the laundromat but other people saw her elsewhere? Where did Sienna's dad, the sketchbook and the sword come into it? (I thought Art was going to be revealed as her dad at one point).
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 7, 2022 16:09:43 GMT
So it's pretty much what everyone would expect. It IS insanely gory, but it gets into the absurd to the point where I think you're kind of meant to be laughing at it. Some squeamish people might not be able to handle it, but none of this stuff looks real. The blood and gore gets so crazy that it crosses into the silly, and pretty early on... which is true of the last one as well. I think for most of the people who would even bother to see something like this it's not making you pass out, puke, or even scaring you. Really, if you've seen a bunch of horror movies you'll be looking at the gore in this movie and either nodding with appreciation at the inventiveness of putting wild ideas on screen, or you'll be folding your arms and rolling you're eyes at how desperate it is to be 'hardcore.' It's crazy violent, but none of that violence is visceral...despite all of the viscera. It's there to be a showcase for the effects team and the director, so none of it hurts.
I was in the middle on that aspect of it, and a lot of the movie otherwise. I didn't hate it, and I didn't love it, I wasn't really bowled over by its audaciosness and I wasn't really annoyed by its desperation to be audacious. I appreciated some of it, but came away like warm.
Like everyone will tell you; this movie is way too long. There's no need for this movie to be 2 and a half hours. It would he pretty easy to cut this down to 2 hours and barely lose anything. So many of these scenes drag on and on and lose impact by doing so.
When most people say 'you could cut put 45 minutes' from a movie, what that really means is you could cut out like 6 minutes. Rather than excising whole characters and story lines it's really more about taking out 8 frames here, 3 seconds there, 12 seconds here, etc. That time adds up, and so many scenes feel poorly paced. Just these little cuts to almost every scene could make the pace of the whole thing work so much better.
The most glaring example is a dream sequence in 'the clown cafe.' It starts off with a real sense of dream/nightmare logic and the feeling of surrealism, but the longer it drags on the less effective that gets. It feels more and more like they had someone write a song and they wanted it played in full, and the stunt guy was set on fire and they wanted that to be fully seen, and they cast some friends and family as the people in the scene and they wanted them to each get a close up... it felt like they just wanted to make sure they used all of the footage they had, and it's to the clear detriment of not just the scene, but the way the entire film and surrounding scenes are paced around it, especially when the film flashes back to this scene multiple times... that really highlights how big a mistake it was to let this go on so long initially. It's the most obvious moment where this was a problem and that most obviously contributed to the overlong runtime.
BUT the actors are mostly pretty good, the main girl and her mom in particular and the guy who plays Art really does a lot with his physicality. There is more characterization and plot this time around, not that this is some great work of character depth by any stretch, but it actually does give you some people to engage with well beyond what was done last time, and in a lot of slasher movies.
And it looks pretty good. It's not like an impeccably well directed movie or anything; some of the establishing of locations leaves A LOT to be desired when it comes to the kill set pieces, and particularly the climax, but it has a good look. It pulls off a decent filmic visual style on what must have been shot digitally, and while it's not very inventive in its shot selection, its certainly compentently put together.
The 'mythology,' as it were, of this character and story is further explored, but I'm pretty sure it's all nonsense. Art was killed conclusively last time, but we knew he'd be back, so he must be supernatural. This one starts to give you some hints at a backstory, but it doesn't officially tell you anything, and pushes that off until the next one. But the way this one ends, with its ludicrous mid credits scene, is absurd and definitely won't make any sense once they try to explain it next time.
But I guess they know that nobody really cares about that.
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Post by springheeljack1837 on Nov 10, 2022 6:10:56 GMT
Fantastic gore and Art the Clown rocks every scene he’s in. Sometimes the music is good as well.
Unfortunately everything else is completely awful. Characters, acting, narrative, awkward failures at dream sequences that drag out way too long etc etc
I guess the sword they keep showing holds some significance and might come into play later… OHHHHHHH okay, it does something for no reason because of magical wizard brain tumours of the past I guess lol
But any B grade horror/gore fan could accept all that shit and have a lot of fun with this. I did.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 4, 2023 22:49:22 GMT
In a recent interview with Insider, Damien Leone opened up about the future of the Terrifier franchise. See what Leone said below: I am writing 'Terrifier 3' as we speak. I definitely want to make at least one more. There may be two to tell this story and tackle all the ideas that I have in my head. Because there's a lot more to explore with Art the Clown, the pale girl, Victoria, and certainly Sienna as our final girl. We will be following her journey to the end of this franchise.
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Post by forca84 on Feb 9, 2023 1:54:43 GMT
It was too long... And I've watched plenty of horror. That Bedroom scene was sadistic. Too much. It felt like it was trying too hard to be gross. It was nice seeing Felissa Rose.
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